Originally posted by Bentley
Thanos has outsmarted everyone in the MU save TOAA. You are practically implying that the DCU is smarter than the MU.
No what i'm implying is that The DCU is written very differnt from the MU and that Thanos wouldn't be the threat in the DCU that he is in marvel. Given that, It's unfair to give him auto wins over every DC character when he doesn't have the feats. All he has is the combat scenes and he suses to much outside help and planning to really get a fair accounting of him.
Still, Thanos written like he should be written would overcome the adversities, if he is written some other way he stops being Thanos.
I agree that a lot of what the titan has going on for him is his planning ahead, even in single battles, but the fact remains that resisting attacks from Tyrant and Odin its not something you do just by thinking ahead, he got out of those situations because he knew before that he had an out, but not anyone in an out can stand against those levels of powers.
I dont get why you think that Thanos feats are so tweaked.
Originally posted by Bentley
Still, Thanos written like he should be written would overcome the adversities, if he is written some other way he stops being Thanos.I agree that a lot of what the titan has going on for him is his planning ahead, even in single battles, but the fact remains that resisting attacks from Tyrant and Odin its not something you do just by thinking ahead, he got out of those situations because he knew before that he had an out, but not anyone in an out can stand against those levels of powers.
I dont get why you think that Thanos feats are so tweaked.
I just do. Becuz Thanos owns Surfer, but Surfer has has owned morg, who has been shown to put a good hefty fight with thanos. . See what I mean. Thanos' feats are almost assuredly well planned or jobbers. I can't see Odin even begging to give Thanos a thought. It was a jobbering Odin. Cuz to me Anyone who can own Surtur is most assuredly on a whole other lvl than Thanos.
Regardless of where Thanos is, he will get by. His sheer determination would be enough. Plus, he is a great schemer. Plus, Thanos is a cosmic. The cosmic characters in Marvel do not have many strength feats simply because brute force is not their first method of battle. The fact that Thanos can take a licking from the likes of Odin or Tyrant and still get up is a testament of his strength and durability. He can definitely do in DC what he has done in Marvel.
Originally posted by tdawg14
Regardless of where Thanos is, he will get by. His sheer determination would be enough. Plus, he is a great schemer. Plus, Thanos is a cosmic. The cosmic characters in Marvel do not have many strength feats simply because brute force is not their first method of battle. The fact that Thanos can take a licking from the likes of Odin or Tyrant and still get up is a testament of his strength and durability. He can definitely do in DC what he has done in Marvel.
Not even. the DC is more crammed full of beings who would interfere. Thanos wouldn't be able to do anything with the phantom Stranger. Or Shazam. Or Takion. Or DS. How would thanos Take out Thunderbolt? Or 3 green lanterns? would he be able to outsmart Darkseid and Desaad or Metron? And Please dont' talk about Thanos standing up to Tyrant or ODin. Both of whom clearly were playing with Him. Tyrant even had big G stand down and Odin has beaten Surtur. Thanos was jobbed to by Odin and Tyrant.
Proofs
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I just do. Becuz Thanos owns Surfer, but Surfer has has owned morg, who has been shown to put a good hefty fight with thanos. . See what I mean. Thanos' feats are almost assuredly well planned or jobbers. I can't see Odin even begging to give Thanos a thought. It was a jobbering Odin. Cuz to me Anyone who can own Surtur is most assuredly on a whole other lvl than Thanos.
Its hard to get a serious proof against what you state, you are basically saying that Thanos is essentianly always withing the plan, that in all his comics battles there is always a circumstance that changes everything. Giving the schemer that Thanos is, that may be posible, its his most redeeming virtue as a character.
What I get is that for you, this perpetual planning situation should not translate into the forum battles, hence making him much less of a threat. Is that what you are trying to explain?
Re: Proofs
Originally posted by Bentley
Its hard to get a serious proof against what you state, you are basically saying that Thanos is essentianly always withing the plan, that in all his comics battles there is always a circumstance that changes everything. Giving the schemer that Thanos is, that may be posible, its his most redeeming virtue as a character.What I get is that for you, this perpetual planning situation should not translate into the forum battles, hence making him much less of a threat. Is that what you are trying to explain?
Yes.
Regardless of whether he jobbed to Odin or not, the fact remains that he got up ready for more. How do you know they would interfere? Marvel has its share of high cosmic beings. Thanos prep and scheming is second to none. He would outsmart Darkseid, the man who continously loses to Superman. The fact is, there is no evidence that says he could not to in DC what he has done in Marvel.
Well, I think thats more or less a reasonable observation, it poses the little problem that we´ve never seen Thanos not planning, posing us the difficulty of judging him without that characteristic. Such Thanos doesnt exist on panel, assuming what he would do exactly is hard to say giving how important his intelligence is for his character. I guess we can only assume that he would fare worse than usual.
But I still dont see how this makes any difference in the DCU, if Thanos was the planning character that he is there, things would still happen within limits of his schemes. Its not like he goes around just attacking and daring super beings for no reason, his goals are well defined and thats what make them hard to stop, he just dont fight against the whole universe, and even when he does it, thats only a little part of his plan, he always look for unrelated goals.
As I said it, Thanos is narcisistic, not power hungry. He can very well live knowing that there is people stronger than him, because he is always sure that his brains will get him out of any problem in the end.
Originally posted by tdawg14
Regardless of whether he jobbed to Odin or not, the fact remains that he got up ready for more. How do you know they would interfere? Marvel has its share of high cosmic beings. Thanos prep and scheming is second to none. He would outsmart Darkseid, the man who continously loses to Superman. The fact is, there is no evidence that says he could not to in DC what he has done in Marvel.
DS is not to be messed with when it comes to scheming. And Unlike Thanos, DS has highfather who is his equal in every way, there to thwart his plans. Thanos has no such nemesis. So try that one again. DS mind is so powerful that he came up with a weapon to stop the God wave. Thanos has never invented anything that powerful. Metron is a living conduit of multiversal knowlege who travels the multiverse in his chair picking up anything and everything. It's just not the same. And on these forum boards, Thanos constant planning can't be counted as part of his seeminly invincible status he has gained here.
Originally posted by Soljer
More of Nvr's Thanos hate. 🙄
Please spare me I have had enough. Go and accus eth many of the Spectre hate, The SUperman hate, The DS hate. I care not to hear any more of your accusations. I am trying to prove a point. The only reason Thanos is so bad assed is becuz of his insane prep and Jobber. It's not fair to judge him on these forum boards based on his wins alone when He clearly has prep, his enemies job, and he uses tech. It's like he gets an unfair advantage here. Not hate, just trying to show that WHen it comes to Thanos, People aren't playing by the Forum Rules.
Re: Thanos in the DCU
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Could Thanos Replicate his feats in the DCU that he's done in marvel?
If he is written properly, and if oppurtunity arises, then yes.
Thanos has enough intelligence, cunning, and patience to replicate his feats and go very far in DCU existance.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Could he beat Superman, Black Adam, Captian Marvel, and Hal Jordan at the same time?
Yes
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Could he face Shazam on the Rock of Eternity and do as well as he did against Odin?
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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Could Thanos Knock Yugah Khan On his Ass and what would it mean?
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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Could He Face a promethian Giant with only morg's power to "blast?"
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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
How does Thanos do in the DCU? Could he get universal power? Could he Get the worlogog from Metron using his mind? Metron is the smartest of all New Gods? Could he posses the Gbox from DS? Could Thanos Beat Superman Sundipped and carring the Guantlet of atlas the way he fought WM Thor with the PG?
1) He could get universal power if he could collect any source of such power, or if he finds some wierd way to tap into the "source". Obviously, objects such as Infinity Gauntlet, HOTI, cosmic cube, don't mean sh*t in DC
2) Thanos can pretty much do ne thing you challenged him to do, if he has enough prep and does enough research and planning before he initiates. Without prep, he's going to have a very hard ass time.
Originally posted by Bentley
This thread is not about the forum fights, hence I answer to the post properly. Thanos would replicate the same things in the DCU if he was written as Thanos.
But the DCU operates differntly. He can be written as Thanos and come up short in the DCU. That is my 2ndary point. Villians don't do as well in the DCU becuz of the very nature of the DCU.THE DCU is more magical for one. What kind of prep or power is thanos going to use against all the Supernatural beings in the DCU?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
DS is not to be messed with when it comes to scheming. And Unlike Thanos, DS has highfather who is his equal in every way, there to thwart his plans. Thanos has no such nemesis.
Thanos has no such nemesis ?
Oh so what do you call Silver Surfer, Drax the Destroyer, Galactus, Adam Warlock, Captain Marvel, Dr. Strange, Fantastic Four, X-Men, Tyrant, The Elders, Morg, Odin, Thor, Avengers, Hulk, the In Betweener, the Runner, Grandmaster, Chamption, MEPHISTO, LIVING TRIBUNAL, pretty much ALL of Marvel, etc.etc.etc.
Thanos makes enemies with EVERYONE in Marvel, and still has come out on top.
Even having Mistress Death betray Thanos repeatedly, making Thanos' life and goals even harder and harder.....
DS has Skyfather against him ? awww...poor baby....Thanos has the entire fkn universe on his ass, and he still whipped them....hmmm......
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So try that one again. DS mind is so powerful that he came up with a weapon to stop the God wave. Thanos has never invented anything that powerful.
Thanos came up with a way to stop the Rot, Thanos came up with mechanisms to depower Silver Surfer, Champion (even when he had the fkn power gem), Thanos came up with ways to defeat Tyrant, molest Galactus, Thanos succeeded in obtaining the Cosmic Cube, the Infinity Gems, and the Heart of Infinity, always having the entire MU at his fingertips just to give it up later.....
Thanos has tasted Ultamate Power, has let it go more than 3 times already, because ultamately power means nothing to him, while to Darkseid power is everything.
Darkseid is a one-dimensional, typical, predictable, and boring character. Not to mention he's the top jobber of all time !
Thanos is more complex, more surprising, is much more intelligently written, ever changing, multi-faceted character....
You do the math !
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Thanos constant planning can't be counted as part of his seeminly invincible status he has gained here.
So how come it's okay to admire Lucifer Morningstar's planning, but to admire Thanos' planning is giving him an unfair advantage ? 🙄
Your vendetta against Thanos is so fkn annoying, it's even worse than Mider's vendetta against the Living Tribunal.
Anti.heroes
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
But the DCU operates differntly. He can be written as Thanos and come up short in the DCU. That is my 2ndary point. Villians don't do as well in the DCU becuz of the very nature of the DCU.THE DCU is more magical for one. What kind of prep or power is thanos going to use against all the Supernatural beings in the DCU?
If Thanos had lived in the DCU all his life he would be more supernatural himself. Its really complicated to translate a character to another universe and keep their exact backgrounds.
Thanos would probably win in the DCU because he is essentially a hero, not a villian. He is evil sure, but he saves the universe too. He has a redeemings value, just as the Spectre has a redeeming value always being more than simply a tool of god.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Thanos has no such nemesis ?Oh so what do you call Silver Surfer, Drax the Destroyer, Galactus, Adam Warlock, Captain Marvel, Dr. Strange, Fantastic Four, X-Men, Tyrant, The Elders, Morg, Odin, Thor, Avengers, Hulk, the In Betweener, the Runner, Grandmaster, Chamption, MEPHISTO, LIVING TRIBUNAL, pretty much ALL of Marvel, etc.etc.etc.
Thanos makes enemies with [b]EVERYONE
in Marvel, and still has come out on top.Even having Mistress Death betray Thanos repeatedly, making Thanos' life and goals even harder and harder.....
DS has Skyfather against him ? awww...poor baby....Thanos has the entire fkn universe on his ass, and he still whipped them....hmmm......
Thanos came up with a way to stop the Rot, Thanos came up with mechanisms to depower Silver Surfer, Champion (even when he had the fkn power gem), Thanos came up with ways to defeat Tyrant, molest Galactus, Thanos succeeded in obtaining the Cosmic Cube, the Infinity Gems, and the Heart of Infinity, always having the entire MU at his fingertips just to give it up later.....
Thanos has tasted Ultamate Power, has let it go more than 3 times already, because ultamately power means nothing to him, while to Darkseid power is everything.
Darkseid is a one-dimensional, typical, predictable, and boring character. Not to mention he's the top jobber of all time !
Thanos is more complex, more surprising, is much more intelligently written, ever changing, multi-faceted character....
You do the math !
So how come it's okay to admire Lucifer Morningstar's planning, but to admire Thanos' planning is giving him an unfair advantage ? 🙄
Your vendetta against Thanos is so fkn annoying, it's even worse than Mider's vendetta against the Living Tribunal. [/B]
And yet you are the one that is clearly biased. To call DS one dimensional. you didn't even really take the time to read what I wrote. Thanos does not have a copletely equal opposite. Highfather has always been there right along side DS. So your entire argument on that end is just shitty. I dont' admire Lucifer's Planning any more than Thanos'. You have me confused. Thanos also, does not live in the DCU with it's vastly numberous Top tiers, Supermagical users and interfering abstracts.