Akhenaten w/HOTI vs Phoenix Force

Originally posted by Galan007
Cool enough, but LT was far from destroyed.

Reed isn't just some normal human, I mean look what he did with the UN, so I wouldn't say its a poor showing on LT's part.

In the grand scheme of things he really is small fry. What did he do with the UN? He merely pressed a button and it did its job 😕

Originally posted by Galan007
Also I don't see Phoenix resisting THOTU as long as LT was able to.

Either way it's my oppinion that:
THOTU>Phoenix

Fair enough, neither side has anything conclusive to say either way.

This is the kind of competition Phoenix should be struggling against so im cool.

Im just glad you now know that as far as canon is concerned, it isnt Gods power and the Last Planet Standing showing for LT counts.

As far as this match up goes, Akhenaten loses as he shared the HOTI he never possesed its full power and as such never did anything of note.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
In the grand scheme of things he really is small fry. What did he do with the UN? He merely pressed a button and it did its job 😕

Originally posted by Galan007
Opperation of the UN on as grand of a scale as Reed used it, requires much more then just pressing a button.

According to whom? Where did you see depicted on panel him do anything but press a button? And i hope youre not a subscriber to the non canon Mr Master view that the UN reset the multiverse? 😬

What is with all these anti-pheonix force spite threads ?

this is getting reallly fkn annoying, you all allow GS to ruin your perceptions of the great character that is the Pheonix Force, and then everyone makes replica threads of nearly undefeatable beings vs the pheonix force, knowing that Pheonix Force would lose.....just to spite GS, or just to attack the pheonix, again and again, this is enough already...

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
According to whom? Where did you see depicted on panel him do anything but press a button? And i hope youre not a subscriber to the non canon Mr Master view that the UN reset the multiverse? 😬

Just before Quasar gets the UN, Thanos says:
"if not utilized with precise correctness, the bearer is destroyed with the target"

I can't believe you would actually think that all which is required by the UN user is to simply "press a button"

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Yep. Its a valid LT appearance, regardless if you didnt think much of the mini itself. It still stands. It happened to LT. Or at least one of his Mbodys.

Mbody contains a fraction of Tribunal's power. I thought the mini was full of

Originally posted by Galan007
In Infinity War...

Just before Quasar gets the UN, Thanos says:
"if not utilized with precise correctness, the bearer is destroyed with the target"

I can't believe you would actually think that all which is required by the UN user is to simply "press a button"

So what does that sentence tell us? For all we know it could be the same as pointing a powerful gun. If not used with correct preciseness and with the correct stance, you could get knocked back by the feedback and affect a completely different target.

The fact that Quasar who is no super genius like Reed was capable of using it without destroying himself says alot. Seems like its just a matter of being smart and having focus. The UN does all the work, you just have to determine the target and focus on it.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The UN does all the work, you just have to determine the target and focus on it.

That is not true.

If the UN is used incorrectly the user is destroyed, so its alot more complicated then pressing a button.

That's all I'm saying.

Originally posted by Galan007
But you just said all you have to do is "press a button"

That is not true.

If the UN is used incorrectly the user is destroyed, so its alot more complicated then pressing a button.

That's all I'm saying.

Because thats basically all you have to do. It stands to reason youre going to have to wield it carefully and focus on the target. Look how powerful it is!! Thats why i didnt think i had to say it.

Your first statement about it just seemed to suggest that Reed was a special case and with the exception of cosmics only he was capable of wielding it with success. It just seemed like you were trying to make a case for how special Reed was and therefore LTs defeat at the hands of his invention shouldnt really be acknowledged.

But its cool you werent. 😉

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Because thats basically all you have to do. It stands to reason youre going to have to wield it carefully and focus on the target. Look how powerful it is!! Thats why i didnt think i had to say it.

Your first statement about it just seemed to suggest that Reed was a special case and with the exception of cosmics only he was capable of wielding it with success. It just seemed like you were trying to make a case for how special Reed was and therefore LTs defeat at the hands of his invention shouldnt really be acknowledged.

But its cool you werent. 😉

Originally posted by Galan007
The only reason I brought up Reed was because he has done the most with the UN by far.

Ok cool.

And contrary to popular belief as you've seen. I can and will admit when im wrong.

Good debate. 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Ok cool.

And contrary to popular belief as you've seen. I can and will admit when im wrong.

Good debate. 🙂

Nice debate 🙂

Anyway, to original thread, Akhenaten with HOTI, he had it's fraction power, but was still easily above Skyfather level, but that wouldn't be enough to handle Phoenix Force.

Although Akhenaten did not have the grasp of omnipotence that Thanos had, he could still take the phoenix with the HOTU

Originally posted by norrinradd43
Although Akhenaten did not have the grasp of omnipotence that Thanos had, he could still take the phoenix with the HOTU

Based on what?

Akhenaten had a fraction of the HOTI and he didnt do anything beyond Eternity level with it. He was powerful but not THAT powerful.

Your first statement about it just seemed to suggest that Reed was a special case and with the exception of cosmics only he was capable of wielding it with success. It just seemed like you were trying to make a case for how special Reed was and therefore LTs defeat at the hands of his invention shouldnt really be acknowledged.

i've tried saying the same thing in the past, but for some reason people just don't want to accept it. glad SOMEONE was able to. 🙂