Originally posted by doctorstrongbadI compiled the sword of Superman scans that ammounted to anything into my respect thread:
What is the sword of Superman? Do you have a link for it?Thanos is the man + IG = he wins 10/10
They begin near the middle of the page.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
It seems to me that if he had merged with the sword he would have become around Eternity - level. Thanos w/IG beat Eternity, so he wins.
The DCU was a multiverse then. Multi-Eternity could give two shits abouts the IG. There is even more than one IG. I think he would have been more like Multi-Eternity.
Originally posted by Endless MikeRight, IF he would have merged with the sword he would be equal to Eternity.
It seems to me that if he had merged with the sword he would have become around Eternity - level. Thanos w/IG beat Eternity, so he wins.
The thing is though, Supes never did fully merge with the sword.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlNope, it specifically stated the IF Supes would have merged with the sword, he would have become one with HIS Universe:
The DCU was a multiverse then. Multi-Eternity could give two shits abouts the IG. There is even more than one IG. I think he would have been more like Multi-Eternity.
The sword was universal at best, and Supes did nothing too impressive with it.
Thanos 10/10
Originally posted by Galan007
Nope, it specifically stated the IF Supes would have merged with the sword, he would have become one with [b]HIS Universe.The sword was universal, and Supes did nothing too impressive with it.
Thanos 10/10 [/B]
Well Wouldn't they be equal then? Eternity Specifially wanted the IG banned becuz the user would replace him. Not Multi-Eternity. Just him. The IG was never shown to be this Multiversal weapon able to control ALL realities. By the way, The sword of Superman is the most LAME thing ever to come out of DC comics besides rainbow raider.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlThe UN=Multiversal, and an Incomplete IG controlled its energies.
Well Wouldn't they be equal then? Eternity Specifially wanted the IG banned becuz the user would replace him. Not Multi-Eternity. Just him. The IG was never shown to be this Multiversal weapon able to control ALL realities.
an Incomplete IG also had the power to merge more then 1 reality
The thing is that Supes never actually absorbed all of the sword, so he never actually became 1 with the universe.
Originally posted by Galan007
The UN=Multiversal, and an Incomplete IG controlled its energies.an Incomplete IG also had the power to merge more then 1 reality
The thing is that Supes never actually absorbed all of the sword, so he never actually became 1 with the universe.
I'm not buying that Whole Un is multiversal load. THe IG was the supreme thing in it's universe. Eternity wrestled back an infinite, who is clearly multiversal, does that now make Eternity Multiversal? hell no. The Ig just Turned the energies back onto the UN. The UN was being used like a weapon. let's see the IG stop the UN while it tries to Repair all of the Multiverse and then the IG will be Multiversal. Until then, It's only the Supreme power of one universe.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlThe UN has been shown as being a multiversal artifact (as displayed by Reed), and an INCOMPLETE IG controlled all of the UN's energies.
The Ig just Turned the energies back onto the UN. The UN was being used like a weapon.
The Incomplete IG was also merging more then one reality.
Originally posted by Galan007
The UN has been shown as being a multiversal artifact (as displayed by Reed), and an INCOMPLETE IG controlled all of the UN's energies.The Incomplete IG was also merging more then one reality.
Um no. Just no. We dont' know the extent of the Energies the Un was expanding. For all we know, the IG could have just moved QUasar in the way. He was the master of time and Space. The IG could have simply redirected the blast. How many times has someone of lessor power redirected a blast? Does this someone how make them more powerful? Blink used to do it all the time. Turn someone's power back on them. Didn't make her more powerful. And The merging of a synthetic reality with no one to fight back is hardly proving the Ig is multiversal. Especially given the fact that the IG was incomplete and the magus could have been using the mind gem to make everyone think he was actually doing this. Hell, He could have been imposing his thoughts upon everyone since he didn't even have a complete IG. Also, you dint' answer my question about Eternity. He wrested back and won against an infinite Is he now multiversal?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlMagus controlled the UN's energies, he did not redirect them.
Um no. Just no. We dont' know the extent of the Energies the Un was expanding. For all we know, the IG could have just moved QUasar in the way. He was the master of time and Space. The IG could have simply redirected the blast.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlMerging 2 realities does make it multiversal whether they fought back or not.
And The merging of a synthetic reality with no one to fight back is hardly proving the Ig is multiversal. Especially given the fact that the IG was incomplete and the magus could have been using the mind gem to make everyone think he was actually doing this. Hell, He could have been imposing his thoughts upon everyone since he didn't even have a complete IG.
There was nothing to suggest he used to mind gem to make people think he was doing that.
Originally posted by Galan007
Magus specifically stated he controlled the UN's energies, he did not redirect them.Merging 2 realities does make it multiversal whether they fought back or not.
There was nothing to suggest he used to mind gem to make people think he was doing that.
And would you say that the UN used the same amount of Energy to attack the magus and when REED who is smarter than quasar and knows exactly how to use the UN, used it? I would say not. So the comparison is just not reasonable. AT ALL.
And IT's easy to merge a reality of your own making. The magus made the 2nd reality with the cosmic cubes. He could have made that reality very easy to manipulate. Let's see the IG merge Two Eternities who will fight back together. Until then, it's not Multiversal. THe other reality was already in the control of the magus from the cosmic Cubes. Also answer my question, is Eternity Multiversal now becuz he fought back an Infinite? becuz that is basically what you are trying to say when your trying to use the IG redirecting or "controlling" the Un's attack.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlListen, I'll break it down for ya...
And would you say that the UN used the same amount of Energy to attack the magus and when REED who is smarter than quasar and knows exactly how to use the UN, used it? I would say not. So the comparison is just not reasonable. AT ALL.And IT's easy to merge a reality of your own making. The magus made the 2nd reality with the cosmic cubes. He could have made that reality very easy to manipulate. Let's see the IG merge Two Eternities who will fight back together. Until then, it's not Multiversal. THe other reality was already in the control of the magus from the cosmic Cubes. Also answer my question, is Eternity Multiversal now becuz he fought back an Infinite? becuz that is basically what you are trying to say when your trying to use the IG redirecting or "controlling" the Un's attack.
UN's energies=Multiversal (as shown on pannel)
Why? because Reed had to destroy and recreate the Multiverse in order to fix the damage Abraxas did to it.
IG= Multiversal
Why? because Magus controlled the UN's energies, and he also was merging 2 realities (with an incomplete IG)
What don't you get about that?
1 Eternity was NOTHING to Thanos, so he alone was clearly more powerful then a single universe.
Originally posted by Galan007
Listen, I'll break it down for ya...UN's energies=Multiversal (as shown on pannel)
Why? because Reed had to destroy and recreate the Multiverse in order to fix the damage Abraxas did to it.
IG= Multiversal
Why? because Magus controlled the UN's energies, and he also was merging 2 realities (with an incomplete IG)
What don't you get about that?
1 Eternity was NOTHING to Thanos, so he alone was clearly more powerful then a single universe.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlGeeze, theres just no point.
NO. NO. NO. Eternity specifically said that he wanted the IG banned becuz it would replace his place among the cosmos. THE LET even commented on this. It didn't say anything about replacing any other Eternities. Also, The UN has steadily been shown to grow in power. When it first came out, it was a weapon against Galactus. THen it turned into a weapon that could kill the universe. Now Under reed's power, It was shown to REMAKE the universe. It hasn't been shown to destroy anything so much as fix and reset things. Even so, The user of the UN obviously effects it's use and power. Also, The UN being used as a weapon in a single Beam, hardly constitutes the same use as it remaking the multiverse. You can't Do a Time warp and Use an instance from a later comic to somehow prove the power of an item from an earlier one. That won't work. That is like saying Superman beat DS so now that DS has the power of the Ale, it doesn't matter, Superman beat DS. THE UN was being used as a weapon, in a single beam, by a less competant User than reed. NO WAY to make a direct comparison of the IG being more powerful than the UN when It was used completely differntly and by a smarter person MUCH LATER ON. ANd answer my question, is Eternity Multiversal becuz he was able to beat back an infinite?
This could go on all day, and I dont feel like dancing with you that long 😉
Originally posted by Galan007
Geeze, theres just no point.This could go on all day, and I dont feel like dancing with you that long 😉
Just answer these specific questions then. Please tell me how quasar using the UN as a weapon equals Reed using The Un as a multiversal repair thingy is equal? The circumstances are completely not the same. That's like giving guy gardner a GL ring and giving Hal jordan the same Gl ring. They are going to use it completely differntly and to differnt effects. One uses it much more powerfully and efficiantly even tho it's the same weapon. But they use it for different purposes and with differnt intelligence. And one more question, becuz Eternity wrestled back The infinite, is he now multiversal as the Infinites clearly are?
