Wonder woman VS Mongul

Started by Omega Vision3 pages

Originally posted by Philosophía
In the current continuity, pre and post Crisis Mongul have been merged - as many characters have, both 'For the man who has everything' and the Warworld fighting arc of Superman being into canon.

Really?

But wouldn't that only be canon to Mongul Sr then?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Really?

But wouldn't that only be canon to Mongul Sr then?

Yes, Mongul Sr is the one from 'For the man who has everything'.

Both of the versions have been shown to somewhat handle Diana, though with an emphasis on Mongul Sr. who was stomping her until Superman came in. While Mongul Jr. did deliver one heck of a punch after being blindsided by Diana with the sword, he didn't really show himself to be on that level.

Originally posted by paisapower
^^^^^

Except it is comparable to the fight supes and wonder woman had.i think we just got a replay of supes one punch knocking her out only to be revived by earth re entry

*Again*...

That is *situational*/*circumstantial* in terms of order of events...

Could Supes/Mongul kill WW? Of course. Both are more than powerful enough to do so (Supes moreso due to versatility/range of powers; Mongul from sheer strength and being an uber-tank who can keep relative pace with most speedsters in combat -- if not movement -- terms).

However...

Even in the SM/WW fight, Diana had *two* instances where she could have exploited "the kill" on Clark, as opposed to his relative *one* (her being momentarily KO'd/making the crater in Wyoming was his, which he wasn't quite fast enough to exploit; hers were after she stunned him a couple pages later, but chose instead to confront Lord -- she could just as easily have lassoed SM at that point, or -- in Forum "Kill Mode" -- used her Tiara and/or Lasso to kill him via decapitation/strangulation; the second was her attacking him back at Lord's -- the tiara throw could just as easily have been fatal, though obviously that wasn't her intent).

Same with Mongul. Him situationally getting a good solid one on her in no way, shape, or form equates to a one-shot, nor a domination if she were in a position where she had to fight on her own, and therefore fight much smarter/with greater finesse. The other cited fight between them - whether in Pre-C JLA, or the translated *just* Post-C JLU -- which is the powerscale/setting that the writers/producers used for the cartoon series - is situationally/circumstantially appropriate to the *setting*/*scale* employed at the time for WW -- she'll do her best, but won't stand long against him without help. The "current" WW of the later 90's/00's is considerably more durable, and comparatively stronger, than the other two interpretations. While Mongul could certainly put the hurt on her -- and even get a majority, situationally -- it isn't the stomp it used to be... His wins would be more plot-driven, given the context of how Forum Battles are supposed to be played out...

Originally posted by Philosophía
Yes, Mongul Sr is the one from 'For the man who has everything'.

Both of the versions have been shown to somewhat handle Diana, though with an emphasis on Mongul Sr. who was stomping her until Superman came in. While Mongul Jr. did deliver one heck of a punch after being blindsided by Diana with the sword, he didn't really show himself to be on that level.


Plus Krypto pwned him.

Although Krypto also managed to hurt Prime so...all fear Krypto.

Krypto is more than WW.

You better don't argue against that uhuh

Originally posted by Bentley
Krypto is more than WW.

You better don't argue against that uhuh


I'm pretty sure Krypto is also>Superman or at least = to Superman. So I agree. 😄

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'm pretty sure Krypto is also>Superman or at least = to Superman. So I agree. 😄

Yeah...

But he'd still lose to Squirrel Girl...

😄

Originally posted by paisapower
Yours is also a possibility. No, she was not shown to be Ko'd.

In any case ,as per this thread it was quite evident that he was shown to be superior

Eh, knock-aways happen all the time. Unless it's a full fight it's not really much of a sign of superiority.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I'm pretty sure Krypto is also>Superman or at least = to Superman. So I agree. 😄

Hey, in RL, ppl are afraid of dogs. The only advantage ppl have over dogs is if they have a big stick or a gun. And since there isn't really a super stick or a super gun out there, I think Krytpo > Superman... 😄

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Hey, in RL, ppl are afraid of dogs. The only advantage ppl have over dogs is if they have a big stick or a gun. And since there isn't really a super stick or a super gun out there, I think Krytpo > Superman... 😄

A friend of mine is an MP and he's told me many times that while having a gun will prevent most drunk/belligerent soldiers from ****ing around with him nothing says "respect mah authoritah!" like having an angry German Shepherd at your side ready to tear out the guy's nuts if he gets violent.