Originally posted by Nikkolas
No one is talking about the actual fight. I'm talking about where Raiden capped Vamp in the forehead and escaped from Fortune. I'm saying Leon can replicate this.
He can't replicate movement of the bullet, that was an accident and a great luck for Raiden. Hoping that Leon could do the same is naive. So he still stops at Fortune.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
And anyone can block bullets...even nobodies wearing special equipment. Nobodies who don't hav ea percent of the feats Krauser has with his own speed, agility and strength.
Oh c'mone! Those "nobodies" were enhanced super-soldiers, they were jumping 10 meters straight up. And I think we already discussed that. Raiden without any kind of equipment could do that. Leon could only dream of that. So you was saying?
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Dramatic flair and hyperbole... THe whole "I'm already dead" is obviously just BS drama effect. And taking a few bullets to the head? Krauser and Liquid both are currently "dead" and they sure took a hell of a lot more than a few bullets to the head. And if he is "immortal" he has no regen ability as that bullet hole was in his forehead for the whole game. So, cut off his head and he can be immortal all he wants to be.
Liquid isn't actually dead, according to his own words he "lived through...". And like it or not, Vamp is dead. According to konami, so he is officialy dead. So he was telling the truth when he said that he's already dead. No reason to believe that he lied when he said that he "can't die twice". Unlike Krauzer.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Never claimed he was. But Vamp does nto throw the knives at bullet-speed or anything. Leon is very capable of dodging them.
Vamp himself moves faster than Leon could react. Add dozens flying knifes and there is noway for Leon to dodge.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
You do realize he needs: a) a shadow and b) proper lighting, right? You can't say Leon will have a shadow just 'cause....
You do realize that a) It'd be hard for Leon to find place with no shadows and b) Even if he finds it, he won't be able to stay there for long concidering that Vamp is after him.
Besides, Leon would be paralized before he could even think of any way to avoid this attack.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
They are far and above Raiden's. Raiden blocked bullets...like every other regular grunt with special equipment. He also failed to simply move out of the way of the imapct of an explosiona nd was blasted back against a wall, coughing like a tool. Some agility on his part.
lol Yeah, every regular grunt can, but Leon CAN'T. And whenever you learn to deflect bullets let me know, because you speak of it as of an average thing. And enough of that anyone-with-equipment-can-do thing, it's getting lame. Fact. Raiden has better reflexes than Leon, going by their feats.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
El Gigante is invulnerable until its Plaga comes out and Vamp doesn't have anywhere near the power to do that. He can dodge all day but he isn't gonna hurt El Gigante with his pissy little knives.
Thank you. He can dodge all day, yep. And there's nothing El Gigante could do to him. On the other hand Vamp can cut his eyes, and knifes would hurt him.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
As a major Solidus fan, I realize his major handicap is agility. he can speed very well but he can't perform the acrobatics of a Gray Fox to go with that speed. Thus, it would be very easy for Salazar's Right-Hand to dispose of him.
Agility is not that important when you have Solidus speed. He can dodge multiple Rays gunfire with ease. Sounds as a good argument to me. And it takes us back to the main topic. How do you think Leon would beat Solidus, that has superspeed, rocket launchers, two tantacles, two katanas and reflexes better than Leon's?
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Being shot int eh head a few times <<<<<<<<<<<<< bomb being blown up in face and heart exploding.
Fair enough. But immortality >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superhuman durability. Just as army of Rays >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> El Grande.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
No. Based on logic. We never saw Vamp demonstrate any sort of knife-to-knife skill. He can thrwo them expertly and slit throats. No showigns at all he can duel with them.
In the whole game there wasn't a single person that'd dare to fight Vamp knife-to-knife. And there was no character that tried that. This doesn't prove that he's not experienced in knife combat. But throwing them with unblelievable force, speed and perfect aim prove otherwise. As well as killing group of soldiers with it.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Leon sensed Krauser but even as he turned, Krauser was gone. When Krauser wanted to escape during a confrontation, he'd activate a flash bomb and there wouldn't be a trace of him and he was usually a good distance away from you in a second. He snuck up on Ada, while suffering from 1st degree burns, and nearly killed her by just wrenching up an iron bar and tossing it at her. Leon and Ada > random Navy SEALs.
Vamp snuck up on Pliskin, snuck up on Raiden. After dodging machinegun fire was gone so fast that Pliskin thought that he dissapeared. Snake and Raiden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> random Navy SEALs.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Last time Solidus saw him he was a kid. On an actual battlefield and in war, a katana wielded by a youth is not on par with a gun. I want to see Raiden with katana and probably even less mobilitya nd skill than in MGS2 try to fight in a battle with people using guns.
And Solidus still was the one who trained Raiden and teached him everything he knew. He may not used it in a battlefield but he was trained. Solidus knew what he was doing when he gave Raiden katana before the last fight. He wouldn't do that if knew that Jack was an amature.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Question. Does Fortune's little device protect against actual physical attack? What is preventing Krauser from blitzing her and running her through? Bullets and projectiles all were useless against her but breaking her neck might work.
Um... since when it turned into Krauzer vs MGS2? I'm talking about Leon.
As for attacks. Fortune was wearing this gadget for years and for years she've been thinking that she is lady-luck. If she was that easy to hurt, I'm sure this would've already happened in those few years.
And second, cutscene with her last appearance proves that it was not gadget that made her "lucky" but her natural powers. So breaking her neck wouldn't be a piece of cake, since she really is lady-luck.