magneto vs spiderman, venom and carnage

Started by Darth Macabre3 pages

Originally posted by lorddreamer
I se where you're coming from Kurd. Doesnt he have a sheild on at all times though? Thats what makes me go with mag 9.5/10
Not like it matters...Even without his shield he's still mighty durable.

Magneto, even if there were 5 of each opponent. Once Magneto has his shields up, within a second, the team is a s good as dead. Without plot devices, Magneto realistically crushes them in seconds. He has taken the X-Men, who are more powerful than these three.
Even if you want to make the argument that they react first (even though Magneto has put up his shields inbetween the time it took for Cyclops beams to leave his eyes and to get to Magneto, when they were maybe 15 feet apart), a fatigued Magneto has taken a punch to the head from Colossus that would have torn a normal mans head off. He has also been surprised by Wolverine and been clawed, and was fine.

Magneto, anyday, everyday.

If your friend still doesn't believe you, link him up: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/417866-the-official-magneto-respect-thread

I love Venom but Magneto is just to powerful. The guy has taken on whole teams like the X-men and Avengers.

Originally posted by Molecule man
plus the fact that magneto have taken punches from colossus
Not to mention he has taken multiple nukes to the face, without shields up.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Not like it matters...Even without his shield he's still mighty durable.

I doubt that he's that durable, but maybe. Havent read about him recently.

Question: Couldnt mag rip the symbiots right off their hosts? I mean, if theyre living things, they probly have iron and stuff in them right?

Originally posted by lorddreamer
I doubt that he's that durable, but maybe. Havent read about him recently.

Question: Couldnt mag rip the symbiots right off their hosts? I mean, if theyre living things, they probly have iron and stuff in them right?

Not that durable? What are they going to do? Punch him? What, with their 15-35 ton range, that ought to hurt him.... ❌

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Not that durable? What are they going to do? Punch him? What, with their 15-35 ton range, that ought to hurt him.... ❌

Well, thats more than enough to shatter his face... isn't it? yes. I believe so. 15 tons is a lot. But honostly, I'm not aware of any extra durability in Magnus. Please educate me

Originally posted by lorddreamer
Well, thats more than enough to shatter his face... isn't it? yes. I believe so. 15 tons is a lot. But honostly, I'm not aware of any extra durability in Magnus. Please educate me

I don't have any scans on this comp so I just jacked them from the Respect thread; thanks Batdude.

Taking a punch in the face from Colossus (Who's way passed their 15-35 ton range)

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/492/magcolagain3pg.jpg

And here he's getting bear-hugged by Hercules.

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/5774/sgrip3pj.jpg

sh*t... Ok, thats nice to know. Wonder why hes so strong... maybe hes got a sort of iron mesh in his face? Maybe thats the forcefeild, though? Who cares, he wins every time.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
No, I disagree.

First strike wins, easy as pie. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but both Spider-Man, Venom and Carnage are fast as hell. They CAN kill a man in half a second. No problem there.

Spider-Man can web up his eyes in half a second. He almost never misses.

Magneto has to watch out for three super fast opponents. Sorry, but he has been hit a lot of times by slower opponents.

But if Magneto attacks first, the trio is screwed. They are also as good as dead if Magneto erects a force field to protect him.

doh

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Taking a punch in the face from Colossus (Who's way passed their 15-35 ton range)

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/492/magcolagain3pg.jpg

And here he's getting bear-hugged by Hercules.

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/5774/sgrip3pj.jpg


The first one is a durability feat (though it's a high end durability feat for Magneto), the second one isn't a durability feat, not even a strength feat.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
The first one is a durability feat (though it's a high end durability feat for Magneto), the second one isn't a durability feat, not even a strength feat.

Huh??? 😕

He used strength to force himself out of the Hercules bearhug.

Originally posted by lorddreamer
Question: Couldnt mag rip the symbiots right off their hosts? I mean, if theyre living things, they probly have iron and stuff in them right?

Maybe, but I doubt it. The iron comes from the red blood cells.

I would say yes, but I think the symbiotes go inside their hosts too, so I'm not sure if there'd be much left of the host of he tried. He could just burn them both alive though.

Originally posted by batdude123
Huh??? 😕

He used strength to force himself out of the Hercules bearhug.


He used his cape to free himself, not his physical strength (iron cape, you see ?).

Let's say Magneto is a bit more durable than a normal human being, he's still no Juggernaut. And he certainly ain't stronger than an average person.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
He used his cape to free himself, not his physical strength (iron cape, you see ?).

Let's say Magneto is a bit more durable than a normal human being, he's still no Juggernaut. And he certainly ain't stronger than an average person.

Magneto learnt how to use his powers to increase his strength and durability when he was trapped in a plastic prison.(I think this is the same moment he realized he had control of the EM spectrum rather then just Magnetism)

http://img87.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazingadv197100915cy7.jpg
http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazingadv197100916qd3.jpg

There are more durabilty feats in the Magneto Respect Thread. Under Batdudes signature. I think there's one where he takes a hit from Namor to the face.

He meditated for hours to do that. I'm sorry, but that isn't exactly a real strength feat.

Well, it is a kind of a strength feat, true, but not an impressive one, and probably the slowest of them all.

Why don't you check the feat where Mags goes toe to toe with Colossus?

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
He meditated for hours to do that. I'm sorry, but that isn't exactly a real strength feat.

Well, it is a kind of a strength feat, true, but not an impressive one, and probably the slowest of them all.

I wasn't referring to that. I was offering a comic explanation as to how he is able to take a shot to the face from a Class 100 character and get right up.

BTW You misinterpret the scan..it said

"For MONTHS I trained my body...and through the disciplines of ZEN and YOGA..I gained COMPLETE CONTROL"

"No WEAPON...save that energy within my own body. All the strength buried within my body was utilized and with one solidifying burst I became a human projectile".

It never took him hours to perform that feat. It took him months to realize that he controlled the Entire Electromagnetic Spectrum rather then just Magnetism. He used the energy stored in the cells of his body to make himself a human projectile. Which allowed him to break out of his prison.

Some durability and strength feats.
http://img448.imageshack.us/img448/3473/maggoesh2hwithcolossus9xs.jpg
Remember this is Ms. Marvel Rogue.
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/2320/magsgetsphysical7sp.jpg
Gets up from Namors punch to the face.
http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newmutants04010ay8.jpg

That alone tells us that Mags' strength and durability is way above that of an average Marvel Universe Human Being.

P.S. I'd like to thank Juggs for the awesome sig.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
"For MONTHS I trained my body...and through the disciplines of ZEN and YOGA..I gained COMPLETE CONTROL"

Months, that's even worse 😉

Question, do you think that Carnage can kill Magneto ? I mean, a Magneto that is just standing there ?

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Months, that's even worse 😉

Question, do you think that Carnage can kill Magneto ? I mean, a Magneto that is just standing there ?

Again you're misinterpreting the scan...read it again. Months to realize he had complete control(EM spectrum) It did not say it took months to perform that feat. His Magnetic powers were inhibited in that prison. Therefore after months of Yoga and Zen he realized he controlled more then just Magnetism.
As soon as he gained complete control of the EM spectrum Mags used the Energy in his cells to boost his strength and durability and escape his prison.

If Magneto just stands and hasn't stored any energy in his cells yet then of course. If he let me I probably would be able to kill him with a chair. I'll have to go for the face though...cause his clothes are made of dense metal that act like armour.