comics and racism...

Started by Francisco7 pages

comics and racism...

It's the comic industry and its fans racist or not? Why it is that when a black character gets a book everyone seems to instantly agree that the art or the writer sucks but when the character is white they love him even if the writer and the artist are the same? Why the comic industry keeps making the same mistakes over and over while expecting to have different results? Why it is that when a black writer speaks about race and discrimination he is immediatly chalked as racist but when a white does the same he becomes a hero and is prized by his effort? Why can't the fanboys tolerate a strong, intelligent black hero?

Re: comics and racism...

Originally posted by Francisco
It's the comic industry and its fans racist or not? Why it is that when a black character gets a book everyone seems to instantly agree that the art or the writer sucks but when the character is white they love him even if the writer and the artist are the same? Why the comic industry keeps making the same mistakes over and over while expecting to have different results? Why it is that when a black writer speaks about race and discrimination he is immediatly chalked as racist but when a white does the same he becomes a hero and is prized by his effort? Why can't the fanboys tolerate a strong, intelligent black hero?

You mean the present Black Panther series?

I dunno, personally I find that some of the Black Characters are amazingly cool.

I am mostly thinking about blacks I have to admit. Don't know many Arab or Asian heroes.

But Steel, Black Panther and Mr. Terrific (II?) seem to be some of the best coolest characters there are.

Also, Chasing Amy is a good movie.

Re: Re: comics and racism...

Originally posted by Weyoun
You mean the present Black Panther series?
Amongst others.
BP is just one example of the industry's treatment of black characters and the reaction of fanboys/closet racist/nerdbiggots. As long as the character is white they would tolerate and even prize whatever nonsense the writers come up with but if the character isn't white or white looking they will whine, scream and curse no matter how good the wrting might be.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Also, Chasing Amy is a good movie.

Yeah, but that Hooper X character wasn't very good; he was weak and a racist.

Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Yeah, but that Hooper X character wasn't very good; he was weak and a racist.
Agreed.

Re: Re: Re: comics and racism...

Originally posted by Francisco
Amongst others.
BP is just one example of the industry's treatment of black characters and the reaction of fanboys/closet racist/nerdbiggots. As long as the character is white they would tolerate and even prize whatever nonsense the writers come up with but if the character isn't white or white looking they will whine, scream and curse no matter how good the wrting might be.

I have no problems with the present Black Panther run, I think giving him "the ebony blade" is cheap. I didn't like Doom being turned into a Nazi specially given his heritage and why his mother went to hell. It seemed stupid. Otherwise it's fine.


For reference. Here's some of the awesome awesome writing the OP is referring to. 😐

After belittling the European Latverian culture, Black Panther, while wearing a full body suit -- which doesn't allow for one to distinguish his race -- makes a comment about how the Latverians are staring at them because they're black, hypocritically forgetting that his own country is isolationist and xenophobic.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I dunno, personally I find that some of the Black Characters are amazingly cool.

I am mostly thinking about blacks I have to admit. Don't know many Arab or Asian heroes.

There aren't many and almost all of them come from X-Men, at least in Marvel. Can't think of Asian or Arab DC characters off the top of my head.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Also, Chasing Amy is a good movie. [/B]
Indeed.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

For reference. Here's some of the awesome awesome writing the OP is referring to. 😐

Exactly

Originally posted by Weyoun
I have no problems with the present Black Panther run, I think giving him "the ebony blade" is cheap. I didn't like Doom being turned into a Nazi specially given his heritage and why his mother went to hell. It seemed stupid. Otherwise it's fine.

Apparently sarcasm is lost on you, dear.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
There aren't many and almost all of them come from X-Men, at least in Marvel. Can't think of Asian or Arab DC characters off the top of my head.
It is kinda true, thinking about it though.

There are only very few other than white races. Does J'onn J'onnz count?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Apparently sarcasm is lost on you, dear.

Exactly, are you a girl as well?

Originally posted by Bardock42
It is kinda true, thinking about it though.

There are only very few other than white races. Does J'onn J'onnz count?

He's a whole 'nother species though. Actually thought of a DC character, Batgirl is Asian.

Originally posted by Weyoun
Exactly, are you a girl as well?
No, probable sock.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
No, probable sock.

I was sock checked last night. I am not a sock.

I am a girl who likes comics and films that's all, I can't believe the hostility on this forum.

I don't much care if you are a sock or not.

This thread will probably be moved.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
He's a whole 'nother species though. Actually thought of a DC character, Batgirl is Asian.

Didn't she go evil? I stopped my Batman stuff. Bored me. Only shit runs lately.

Oh, by the way, Karate Kid is asian I believe.

Originally posted by Weyoun
I was sock checked last night. I am not a sock.

I am a girl who likes comics and films that's all, I can't believe the hostility on this forum.

If you are hot I might like you.

Re: comics and racism...

Originally posted by Francisco
It's the comic industry and its fans racist or not? Why it is that when a black character gets a book everyone seems to instantly agree that the art or the writer sucks but when the character is white they love him even if the writer and the artist are the same? Why the comic industry keeps making the same mistakes over and over while expecting to have different results? Why it is that when a black writer speaks about race and discrimination he is immediatly chalked as racist but when a white does the same he becomes a hero and is prized by his effort? Why can't the fanboys tolerate a strong, intelligent black hero?

Storm

She's pretty cool I believe, can't think of any other black people out there but I would hardly call that a side affect of racism...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Didn't she go evil? I stopped my Batman stuff. Bored me. Only shit runs lately.

Oh, by the way, Karate Kid is asian I believe. If you are hot I might like you.

I am blonde and about 5ft 7" I play a lot of netball and tennis in the summer.

Then you have Arabian night, Falcon, Shang Chi etc. etc.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Didn't she go evil? I stopped my Batman stuff. Bored me. Only shit runs lately. If you are hot I might like you.
I think so. Are we only looking for heroes?

Psylocke - but she's not really asian.
Jubilee
Sunfire

Off the top of my head.

In DC, the girl Dr Light.

Leave the maybegirl alone you German swine.