Did Lucifer have any offspring? Son/Daugter

Started by Lord Urizen7 pages
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Why do you believe in the bible?

"Because God wrote it "

How do you know God wrote it ?

"Because the Bible says so"

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
"Because God wrote it "

[b]How do you know God wrote it ?

"Because the Bible says so" [/B]

So, you have seen this before?

I think the real truth is that mommy and daddy told them this, and they are not willing to let go of the oldest beliefs they have. That is ok with me, I just wish they would admit it.

😆

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
So, you have seen this before?

I think the real truth is that mommy and daddy told them this, and they are not willing to let go of the oldest beliefs they have. That is ok with me, I just wish they would admit it.


Now I know you know this is not the case for millions of Christians worldwide.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Now I know you know this is not the case for millions of Christians worldwide.

Ofcourse not....

some Christians found Christianity as a solution and truly beleive it. Other Christians were convinced out of fear and peer pressure to abandon thier original beleifs, and just conform.

As long as that is clear.

Originally posted by Oncewhite
The common belief is that Christ is the last name of Jesus, and that Jesus was the name he was called when he was in Jerusalem and that he spoke the queen's language (British English)...which is a nice sounding language....

but the "common" beliefs of the time...uhm...I like to question those..., that's why I wanted to pose the question, just like I would ask, "what's the last name of Jesus", you know, thought provoking, passes time.

You BLOODSUCKING ASSCRAP!

Watch your language!

Originally posted by Nellinator
As long as that is clear.

We don't all subscribe to the beleif that Christians are just a bunch of mindless zombies Nell.....I may make jokes towards Christianity, but i don't seriously think that.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
We don't all subscribe to the beleif that Christians are just a bunch of mindless zombies Nell.....I may make jokes towards Christianity, but i don't seriously think that.

Do TRUE christians know they are slaves?

Do non christians and satan know they are slaves?

Would I rather be a slave to love?

Why would I rather be a slave to love?

because it sets me free from slavery...and then calls me a FRIEND.

Why they HELL would I someone want to be THE with the embodyment of EVIL. i dont like hurting people. I dont like BEING SELFISH, so if God is...

1. patient
2. kind
3. does not anger easily
4. revels in truth
5. keeps no record of right or wrong
6. never fails

then ofcourse thier aint nutting this world can offer me that i would CHOOSE over him. So case in point..someone who realizes the selfish version of "love" is in this life..is NATURALLY going to be drawn to GOD's love instead of the world love...not because thier a ZOMBIE..but cause they realize that this world dont have REAL LOVE to offer them..atleast not like the lOVE JESUS offered them on the CROSS.

So case in point again..but anyway your argument is INVALID

Originally posted by supdude
Do TRUE christians know they are slaves?

Slaves of thier own Ignorance ✅

Originally posted by supdude
Do non christians and satan know they are slaves?

Oh, so Christians know this great big secret that the rest of us don't ? 😱

FYI- I was Christian for 18 years of my life....don't try bullshitting me now.....

Originally posted by supdude
Would I rather be a slave to love?

I WOULD droolio

Originally posted by supdude
Why would I rather be a slave to love?

CUZ ITS KINKY ! droolio

Originally posted by supdude
because it sets me free from slavery...and then calls me a [b]FRIEND.[/B]

Slavery sets you free from Slavery ?

You have good logic !

Originally posted by supdude
Why they HELL would I someone want to be THE with the embodyment of EVIL. i dont like hurting people. I dont like BEING SELFISH, so if God is...

I don't like hurting people either ❌

At least we have one thing in common ....

Originally posted by supdude
1. patient

If God is eternal, i wouldn't give him credit for having any patience what-so-ever since Time is irrelevant to him.

But one can argue God is patient...seeing how he immediately banished Adam and Eve from the Garden into a life of misery, simply because they ate a fruit.....

God's patience = 0

Originally posted by supdude
2. kind

Oh he is most certainly kind !

He killed every except Noah and his family during the Great Flood. That is over 99% of the human population, not to mention all the animals he drowned as well....

And also, he sends us to a place of Eternal Torment if we don't obey.....he's so KIND !

God's kindness= 0

Originally posted by supdude
3. does not anger easily

True, true, true...so true.

His wrath is so gentle...that is why destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha, burning men, women, and children into powder.....

Oh God, ye are so merciful !

God's mercy= 0

Originally posted by supdude
4. revels in truth

Which is why he supplied to proof for his existance ! 😱

God's Truthfulness= 0

Originally posted by supdude
5. keeps no record of right or wrong

So the Book of Life is...what ?

Sins......don't mean anything to him ?

So what's the point of Hell then ?

If God keeps no record of right and wrong, then how does he know who to let into Heaven and who goes to Hell ?

I think you are confused as to the details of your own mythology

Zero.. 👇

Originally posted by supdude
6. never fails

Oh yeah, God did a GREAT JOB during the Holocaust !

God's reliability= 0

Originally posted by supdude
then ofcourse thier aint nutting this world can offer me that i would CHOOSE over him. So case in point..someone who realizes the selfish version of "love" is in this life..is NATURALLY going to be drawn to GOD's love instead of the world love...not because thier a ZOMBIE..but cause they realize that this world dont have REAL LOVE to offer them..atleast not like the lOVE JESUS offered them on the CROSS.

It's sad that you have to resort to the illusion that you possess the Love of some imaginary being, simply because you couldn't find that kind of love in another human being.

I am sorry for that....

BTW, when did i call Christians zombies ?

Originally posted by supdude
So case in point again..but anyway your argument is [b]INVALID [/B]

What argument ? I said Christian's are not zombies.... I think you just proved me wrong....

😆

Moron

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Slaves of thier own Ignorance ✅

Slavery sets you free from Slavery ?

WRONGS[b]

..the embodyment of LOVE does not contain IGNORANCE..LOVE IS EMBODIED BY TRUTH, WISDOM, COMPASSION, KNOWLEDGE, PATIENCE, KINDESS..and all that good stuff.

So If i'm a slave to love, then i understand that IM not truly a slave..cause a slave does not get to share all the good stuff with HIS MASTER..but a FRIEND does..

Bad Try

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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I don't like hurting people either ❌

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1 point for u. but you still continue to HURT me with your POOR LOGIC..AND PATHETIC ARGUMENTS.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
If God is eternal, i wouldn't give him credit for having any patience what-so-ever since Time is irrelevant to him.

But one can argue God is patient...seeing how he [b]immediately banished Adam and Eve from the Garden into a life of misery, simply because they ate a fruit.....

You try being at the beginning and the end..and having to witness sin over and over..and YOUR DEATH at the hands of your OWN CHILDREN over and OVER. When you've done this, then YOU can MAKE a VALID JUDGEMENT about giving credit for being PATIENT.

God's patience = + Infinity

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Oh he is most certainly kind !

He killed every except Noah and his family during the Great Flood. That is over 99% of the human population, not to mention all the animals he drowned as well....

And also, he sends us to a place of Eternal Torment if we don't obey.....he's so KIND !

God's kindness= 0

True, true, true...so true.

His wrath is so gentle...that is why destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha, burning men, women, and children into powder.....

Oh God, ye are so merciful !

God's mercy= 0

He's letting you live right now EVEN THOUGH you and I say and do MEAN, and hurtful things about him. EVEN WITH ALL THIS..he'll still forgive us ALL For our sins, if we come to him with a CONTRITE HEART..and earnestly ask him for forgiveness..

God's kindness= Infinity + 1
God's mercy = Infinity + 2

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Which is why he supplied to proof for his existance ! 😱

God's Truthfulness= 0

WTF..that makes no sense..so I'm going to respond with a non sensical argument..meaning..ill provide you with no response.

God's Truth = Infinity + 3

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
So the Book of Life is...what ?

😆

exactly what it says it is..that being the book of life..rolleyes...

Those who choose Christ choose "life" and their "names" will be "written" in the BOOK of life...🙄

if it were a record of rights and wrongs..i think God would LOGICALLY call it "the book of rights and wrongs"

Your killing me with your KEEN logic, Literary skills, knowledge of scripture, and and RATIONALE..😆

Originally posted by lil bitchness
Sins......don't mean anything to him ?

So what's the point of Hell then ?

If God keeps no record of right and wrong, then how does he know who to let into Heaven and who goes to Hell ?

read the above.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I think you are confused as to the details of your own mythology

Zero.. 👇

It's sad that you have to resort to the illusion that you possess the Love of some imaginary being, simply because you couldn't find that kind of love in another human being.

I am sorry for that....

I think your confused into thinking that your witty and intelligent..but youve just proven that your just as helpless as the rest of us..

its sad that you cling to the illusion of what you consider love to be..AND reject the true LOVE that GOD has made available to you.

I wish no ill will upon you..but i do hope you see god the same way as I do myself someday.

im going to bed dude. verbally whoppin peoples assess on a message board takes a lot out of a man..😆

Try to show more patience and use less provoking language. If you want to have a sincere debate with points being made and discuss you have to be serious and sincere.

I would agree with that.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Try to show more patience and use less provoking language. If you want to have a sincere debate with points being made and discuss you have to be serious and sincere.

I like that

I'll try to stick to the same ideal (not to say I won't try to defend by beliefs form belligerents)

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
What about when I was Christian ? For 18 years of my life ?

What about when I prayed to him every morning and night ? Praised him every day for everything I loved....

I never heard God before, even then......why is that ?

* maybe you never heard because you never listened...

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Oh, GOD....here's some more JIA bullshit 🙄

If my will was truly that of Satan's, I'd probly be destroying cities, killing babies, and drowning people....oh wait, that's GODS WILL ! 😱

* just because i posted the Bible verse after your post, means it's you i'm referring to... sigh, you're so defensive... it would be more offensive in my part if i started on John 8:44 ("You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father's desires...") but i have given a premise on John 8:47 ("He who is of God hears the words of God; the reason why you do not hear them is that you are not of God.")... those people who don't hear the words of God, as Jesus said, are not of God and are children of Satan...

* whoa, whoa, whoa... wait! you are offended if someone told you that you are a child of Satan? then why did you started a thread about Satan here? a thread for exalting Satan? giving Satan credit?geez! even Satan would be disgraced by your hypocrisy...

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Oh, u mean the way GOD murdered the first born sons of Egypt, everyone in Sodom and Gomorrha, and 99.99999% of the human and animal populace during the Great Flood ?

* you defend the sins of men against the judgment of God? wow...

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Oh I agree ...that's because Satan doesn't [b]EXIST ![/B]

* so don't be offended if you are a child of someone who does not exist...

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Do you have [b]proof to validate your Biblical argument ? Or are you just another zealot here to annoy me ? [/B]

* well, i posted the Bible verse to answer the thread topic... it was not addressed to you, i apologize for that misunderstanding... it so happened that your post was the last when i posted...

* my argument about the topic is that those people in John 8:47 (those who do not hear the words of God) are the children of Satan...

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
as for peejayed as a zealot I don't think he is so much most of the time he posts more than a quote

* uhmm... thanks?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
HE just said I was a child of Satan.....that's very zealous, and a very dangerous mentality to have.

* i never did... it was a Bible verse...

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Why do you believe in the bible?

* the same as you believe Buddha and his doctrines... we've been through this before, my friend... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd

* the same as you believe Buddha and his doctrines... we've been through this before, my friend... 😉

It is not for the same reason...

* you believe in Buddha and his doctrines... i believe in Jesus and His doctrines... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* you believe in Buddha and his doctrines... i believe in Jesus and His doctrines... 😉

...but not for the same reasons.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Try to show more patience and use less provoking language. If you want to have a sincere debate with points being made and discuss you have to be serious and sincere.

👆

your right. its hard my friend..but i am trying..you do have to admit the last line was kind funny..though.