Did Lucifer have any offspring? Son/Daugter

Started by Thundar7 pages
Originally posted by Jadyn
Most of the Old Testament Laws were simply practical. Not all of them carried the death penalty. Most of them were equal or lesser in punishment to other laws and punishments of their day.

Exactly. I can't understand why individuals today don't understand their practicality. Obviously the whole Mosaic Law regarding the uncleansliness of certain animals, had much to do with health concerns on God's part.

Originally posted by Thundar
Exactly. I can't understand why individuals today don't understand their practicality. Obviously the whole Mosaic Law regarding the uncleansliness of certain animals, had much to do with health concerns on God's part.

yes avoiding mixed fibers and animals with the wrong type of hooves were really sensible precautions to take

Originally posted by finti
yeah the offspring is called organised religion
Yeah, it is evil isn't it?? 🏴‍☠️

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
yes avoiding mixed fibers and animals with the wrong type of hooves were really sensible precautions to take

Actually yes it is. Some types of animals with cloven hooves, specifically pigs..carry all types of diseases. The same rationale can be applied to some types of scavenger birds. So this was a very sensible move on God's part. Obviously this law was abolished, due to God allowing man to come up with a ways to rid these animals of their impurities.

Obviously there are still things man is not meant to eat. Some of these things shouldn't be eaten because the body has trouble digesting them(rocks, certain plants, etc), while others shouldn't be eaten because it is obviously ungodly and perverse to do so(human defication, human body parts, etc).

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Can you tear your arm from your body?

* yes, if it's a fake arm... 😉

Originally posted by Thundar
Actually yes it is. Some types of animals with cloven hooves, specifically pigs..carry all types of diseases. The same rationale can be applied to some types of scavenger birds. So this was a very sensible move on God's part. Obviously this law was abolished, due to God allowing man to come up with a ways to rid these animals of their impurities.

The hooves don't make then unhealthy its a really odd way to lump together unhealthy animals

Besides why not say these animals shouldn't be eaten because they can have diseases

Originally posted by Thundar

Obviously there are still things man is not meant to eat. Some of these things shouldn't be eaten because the body has trouble digesting them(rocks, certain plants, etc), while others shouldn't be eaten because it is obviously ungodly and perverse to do so(human defication, human body parts, etc).

Well . . . yeah. Does God really have to tell you not to eat those things? (I restrain myself without such explicit orders)

Well, disease wasn't fully understood at the time of writing, if all animals with a certain kind of hoof were killing people upon consumption, then you'd take their most noticable trait, the hooves, and say "Don't eat those"

Originally posted by King Kandy
Well, disease wasn't fully understood at the time of writing, if all animals with a certain kind of hoof were killing people upon consumption, then you'd take their most noticable trait, the hooves, and say "Don't eat those"

That makes sense but then its logical not divine reasoning.

It also could have been due to some of the pagan tribes eating cloven hooved animals. Perhaps God wanted to distinguish the Israelites from the other peoples of that time period. The bible really doesn't go into any explicit details as to why. But a general consensus among many is that the old laws were put in place for practical reasons. Still, only God knows the exact reasons as to why.

Originally posted by peejayd
* yes, if it's a fake arm... 😉

The Catholic church looks no more fake or real then any other Christian church.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
That makes sense but then its logical not divine reasoning.

Most pre-modern philosophers)Meaning, people like Descartes, Hume, Locke, Kant, Hegel, and Kierkegaard, the guys who shaped the way we think.) would say that logic and reasoning spring out of the Divine.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The Catholic church looks no more fake or real then any other Christian church.

* nope... i believe, the basis in Christianity is the Bible... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* nope... i believe, the basis in Christianity is the Bible... 😉
Beads, chants, Mithra, baptisms, one god with a virgin mom.....Save you from the world???

Originally posted by peejayd
* nope... i believe, the basis in Christianity is the Bible... 😉

And so do the Catholics. Your religion came from the Catholic church.

Originally posted by debbiejo
Beads, chants, Mithra, baptisms, one god with a virgin mom.....Save you from the world???

The beads are from Buddhism.

Yep they all did and before......

Originally posted by debbiejo
Beads, chants,

* particularly the rosary, right? Catholics do... and it's against the Bible...

"And in praying use not vain repetitions, as the Gentiles do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."
Matthew 6:7

Originally posted by debbiejo
Mithra,

* there are similarities but Mithraism and Christianity are not one...

Originally posted by debbiejo
baptisms,

* baptism is a commandment from God and Christ...

"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age."
Matthew 28:19-20

Originally posted by debbiejo
one god with a virgin mom.....Save you from the world???

* Mary was a virgin when she delivered Jesus in flesh... but afterwards, she was not, because Jesus had several siblings after Him from Joseph and Mary...

"Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, and brother of James, and Joses, and Judas, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended in him."
Mark 6:3

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
And so do the Catholics. Your religion came from the Catholic church.

* wrong, my friend... give one doctrine of Catholicism that is according to the Bible... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* baptism is a commandment from God and Christ...

"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age."
Matthew 28:19-20

* Mary was a virgin when she delivered Jesus in flesh... but afterwards, she was not, because Jesus had several siblings after Him from Joseph and Mary...

"Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, and brother of James, and Joses, and Judas, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended in him."
Mark 6:3


I think we can go deeper than this. Baptism is in fact a Jewish custom dating back over 3000 years and therefore predating what some 'critics' (who apparently are stupid) claim baptism was derived from. Baptism was used when a foreigner bound himself to the Law of Moses. They were immersed in water and then brought under the grace of the Jewish people as according to the Law.
The prophecy of the virgin birth predates the birth and religion of Mithra and is quite original.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Can you tear your arm from your body?
Reminds me of a joke I heard...

The joke goes that a guy wakes up the next morning with his arm under an ugly woman. He would rather chew his arm off than risk waking her up. 😂

I know, I'm bad, bye

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