now... you will become absurd..
a short powerful pull of the rope... from Hulk or Hercules.... and Juggy WILL be moved...
he will be moved.. in a way... he sure would not like...
so .. please.... once and for all.... please forget this UNSTOPPABLE.. UNMOVEABLE.. "shit" .. from Juggy...
he is a very powerful.. impressive force... BUT.. he IS NOT... WASNT EVER... the unstoppable force... you wish to see in him..
Originally posted by BetageuzeTo all these guys he is
now... you will become absurd..a short powerful pull of the rope... from Hulk or Hercules.... and Juggy WILL be moved...
he will be moved.. in a way... he sure would not like...
so .. please.... once and for all.... please forget this UNSTOPPABLE.. UNMOVEABLE.. "shit" .. from Juggy...
he is a very powerful.. impressive force... BUT.. he IS NOT... WASNT EVER... the unstoppable force... you wish to see in him..
the rope snaps, yeah i said it 😐
Originally posted by Betageuze
now... you will become absurd..a short powerful pull of the rope... from Hulk or Hercules.... and Juggy WILL be moved...
he will be moved.. in a way... he sure would not like...
so .. please.... once and for all.... please forget this UNSTOPPABLE.. UNMOVEABLE.. "shit" .. from Juggy...
he is a very powerful.. impressive force... BUT.. he IS NOT... WASNT EVER... the unstoppable force... you wish to see in him..
yeah, i said that too, you know you freaking wanted to too.
Originally posted by Betageuze
i know Mangog.....perhaps .. here he is the third mightiest guy here (behind Thor and Hulk).... BUT... NOT .. in this kind of matches...
in this kind of match...
HULK
HERCULES
THOR
THING
WONDERMANand
JUGGERNAUT
GLADIATOR
ULIKARE the behemoths.... to BEAT.... and therefore.. its a 5 against 3...
of course... Juggy and Glady will not easy to beat by the opponents...
but a pissed of Hulk...
Immortal Hercules... hell of.
Thor... who NEVER want to loose
and Thing..... dont underestimate in this kind of a matchwith Wonderman and Sasquatch.... TEAM 1 will survive... i believe..
Mangog has never really demonstrated any really significant strength feats. Knocking over thor hardly is that Impressive.
Originally posted by Got da virus
Mangog has never really demonstrated any really significant strength feats. Knocking over thor hardly is that Impressive.
you mean he didnt over power thor with his TAIL???? i think you need to re-evaluate this statement.
Originally posted by Betageuze
Juggernaut has been moved before.......
only by exploiting his weaknesses.
Mangog could possibly pull all of team 1 by himself (if not he could atleast hold them still).
juggernaut could pull team 1 and 2. juggernaut wins it for them. add mangog into the mix and its a no brainer.
"Nothing can stop the juggernaut" is just a metaphor. Once Juggernaut builds up enough momentum, almost-nothing can stop him. It's really just a matter of having enough power to overpower cytrorak's enchantment on juggernaut which has been done before.
Juggernaut has a baseline class 100 strength but he's no Hulk, and he doesn't get any stronger than his enchantment allows.
I'm giving it to team one.
Originally posted by Evangel94
"Nothing can stop the juggernaut" is just a metaphor. Once Juggernaut builds up enough momentum, [b]almost-nothing can stop him. It's really just a matter of having enough power to overpower cytrorak's enchantment on juggernaut which has been done before.[/B]
again only by exploiting weaknesses. juggernaut hasnt really ever been stopped otherwise. not even dimensional barriers posed a problem. has it ever been stated anywhere or been shown on panel that juggernaut has to BUILD momentum??? or that he just has to be moving in a direction??? i think its the latter. nobody says once juggernaut builds momentum hes unstoppable. no, its once he decides to move in a certain direction...
Originally posted by Evangel94
"Juggernaut has a baseline class 100 strength but he's no Hulk, and he doesn't get any stronger than his enchantment allows.
you mean juggernaut is just baseline 100?? even though he could hold his own with an exponentially powered up hulk??? or that narrative has most rescently described the juggernaut to have "immeasurable super human strength".... sounds alot more than baseline to me.
Originally posted by Evangel94
"I'm giving it to team one.
you would be betting on a losing team...
Originally posted by Got da virus
Yeah but his punches have only downed Thor, as have various other physically weaker beings, it doesn't really say much about his strength. His durability is unquestionable.
he has challenged odin physically. even more than thanos has. he pulped asgard by himself... if his tail is physically stronger than thor, the rest of his body is even more so...
Originally posted by KillAll
again only by exploiting weaknesses. juggernaut hasnt really ever been stopped otherwise. not even dimensional barriers posed a problem. has it ever been stated anywhere or been shown on panel that juggernaut has to BUILD momentum??? or that he just has to be moving in a direction??? i think its the latter. nobody says once juggernaut builds momentum hes unstoppable. no, its once he decides to move in a certain direction...
For Juggernaut to be stopped, obviousely he needs to actually needs to begin "moving" ala build up momentum. That's what the word implies.
In an exiles version of Juggernaut, Juggernaut was held in a maximum security mutant prison. Juggernaut was restrained and locked down, so he could not build up momentum and use his "juggernaut" movement powers. Although it's not "canon", that Juggernaut, had the same powers as the classic 616 Juggernaut. Even the movie version of Juggernaut was held down the same way in X-Men 3. Juggernaut needs to actually begin moving to be an "unstoppable" force.
Obviously, lot's of things can stop the juggernaut. He only has a skyfather level enchantment. Many capable powerhouses can either bypass it on completely overpower it. Remember that it's cytorak whose "giving" power to Juggernaut, so if a character who is more powerful than cytorak attacks Juggernaut, then it's game over.
And with regards to the Dimensional Barriers breaking, that's not even the same Juggernaut we're talking about in this discussion. That was "Trion" Juggernaut who was directly being influenced by Cytorak himself.