Originally posted by Kadesh
Wait before that, was it exar kun or kyp durron who tore lukes spirit from his own body?
It was Exar Kun who actually knew the technique. However, it was Kyp who launched the initial assault. He augmented Kyp's power, and attacked in conjunction to the point where Luke was overwhelmed.
Though, again, I will say that Exar in his physical form is far greater in power than the greenhorn Kyp Durron, and his spirit - that's just for anyone who might say that Exar can't pull off such a technique, when he clearly can. Seeing as even post-DE Luke, who had learned from Sidious himself, Yoda, and Obi-Wan couldn't even muster a defense for the technique, I doubt people like Count Dooku, Darth Vader, and the like would be able to even attempt such a thing.
Ok forgive me but sometimes i am unable to understand certein passages, To this quote i have pulled out i assumed it was exar who used lightning because of the key word dark side lightning, i doubt kyp has learnt this technique at that time although i am wrong.
You're wrong here. Exar Kun had taught Kyp Durron just some "remnant powers" (which would suggest that it was an extremely small amount), and Kyp knew how to summon lightning, or some form of it:
"With the Sun Crusher looming behind him, Kyp stretched out both hands and blasted Luke with lightning bolts like black cracks in the Force. Dark tendrils rose up from gaps in the temple flagstones, fanged, illusory vipers that struck at him from all sides.
The ancient Dark Lord of the Sith lashed out with waves of blackness, driving long icicles of frozen poison into Luke's body. He thrashed, but felt helpless. To lose control to anger and desperation would be as great a failure as if he did nothing at all." (Dark Apprentice, p. 339)
Now, from the description given, we can assume that it isn't standard force lightning, but it is some form of it, hence "dark side lightning" could've been used as a loose term for describing the above. Exar does add his power, and attacks with a different technique, though.
I havnt read the novel yet so i cant say much about this one, this one i leave it to you to either smash or confirm it.
I don't know exactly what the purpose of you writing this was, as it didn't have much, if anything, to do with what I wrote. But, I addressed it anyways.
Ok a few things id like to bring out. I assumed that kun was some how draining the massassi to fuel his powers either through sith aparatus or through the golden globe
But, he wasn't. See my previous post. There's no mention of him feeding on any of the Massassi, and the Golden Globe isn't so much as noted once in the actual source material (i.e I, Jedi, Jedi Academy trilogy).
Given that fact, one could say that it was merely referencing his death in TSW. There was still Massassi trapped in the Golden Globe after Exar's death; so, that begs the question of why couldn't he drain them at that point? The only likely assumption is that he never could, or did, and that it's in regards to the ritual at his death. If I may, we know that he practically committed genocide by draining the Massassi, and they did fuel the power needed to unleash his spirit:
"Drained from thousands of Massassi sacrifices... the power is rising. The ritual begun... Sith power objects unleashed!"
Plus, did you even read what I wrote regarding this? Why would he be so weak if he had such sources to draw from? It's apparent that what you believe isn't the case.
Ok the keyword is "minor force talents" which w as referring to the academys students and i doubt that "sith lightning" is a minor talent
Actually, it is. If I recall correctly, Quinlan Vos was able to generate lightning, even though he had hardly been trained by Count Dooku.
But, anyways, that's not the point. We already know that Exar taught Kyp a small amount of Sith powers, and clearly one of said powers was some form of force lightning.
andn that since this is a jedi academy and not a sith academy that it would be highly unlikely kyp knew this power thus using lightning on luke so i assumed since exar is the masterful sith lord, i assumed from the book that it was referring to kun using the lightning, I MAY be wrong lol i didnt read the book,
You are wrong, the novel is what makes it clear, actually.
Anyways the rest i leave to you advent, these are just my thoughts so dont get the wrong idea that i want to argue and get my ass moped
I'm not quite understanding what you're trying to get at, Kadesh, seeing as how it doesn't have much to do with what I wrote (i.e. the lightning bit).