Spawn (Current) vs Living Tribunal

Originally posted by thedude1948
Spawn is not all powerful. He needed MoM to turn him back into Al Simmons. He also needed MoM to recreate earth the only thing he did was take it back from him, if he was all powerful he would not need MoM's help...

Mom did not recreate the Earth.

Mom clearly told Spawn he has the power, and he did so with her guidance. That was all...you know, considering he never created a world before that.....

Originally posted by thedude1948
Actually they can if you want scans of Silver Surfer being cut into pieces but still being able to fly around I can post those.

That would only put Silver Surfer on par with First Age Spawn then.....God Spawn is way beyond that.

God Spawn's Feats

In his short time on the series, "4th age Spawn" or God Spawn has done many impressive things:

1) Destroyed Zera
2) Destroyed the armies of Heaven and Hell
3) Destroyed Earth / Human Race
4) Survived direct attacks from God and Satan like it was nothing
5) Recreate the Earth and everything on it, every human being, every molecule, etc.
6) Closed the portals of Heaven and Hell to Earth

1)God Spawn is the equal of God and Satan. Therefore, he is indestructable and immortal. When God and Satan challenged him, Spawn withdrew, arguing that he refuses to engage in a battle where the 3 of them will spend all of eternity beating the crap out of each other.

2)The Mother of Creation has already stated that God and Satan are infinity powerful and undefeatable. A battle between God and Satan will go NO WHERE, because neither will EVER LOSE.....

Likewise, God Spawn, being the equal of God and Satan is infinitely powerful and indestructable. He will NEVER die (in his God form)...the ONLY being capable of his defeat is the Mother of Creation

If God Spawn went on a rampage in MU or DCU, he'd end up killing off most of that universe, since he cannot die or be destroyed, and has infinite power to spare.

3) Having Control over the Earth in Image is a big deal, and no laughing matter. You forget that the Earth is not just a giant rock in Image, the way it is in Marvel or DC. The Earth is a vast organism, with its own life, its own force known as Greenworld. The force which helped defeat and contain Urizen (who is also immortal and undestroyable)

ALSO, keep in mind that each world has its own God...the Mother CLEARLY stated that she has countless children, each of whom she gives a world to shape in whatever way they choose....to destroy a world in Image, NOT only means to destroy the cosmic soul of that planet, but it also means to challenge and offend the God who owns that world.

So destroying a planet in Image is a FAR greater feat than destroying a planet in Marvel or DC.....

He had ultamate power, and decided to give it all away. He was eternal, all powerful, could do wtf he wanted with this power.....but he asked the Mother to take it all away and turn him into Al Simmons.....

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Mom did [b]not recreate the Earth.

Mom clearly told Spawn he has the power, and he did so with her guidance. That was all...you know, considering he never created a world before that....[/B]

Okay MoM was holding a sphere then he says to Spawn "take back what you destroyed. Make it whole again." Now Spawn is holding the sphere..... all powerful? ❌

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I know what Parallex is capable of....I was talking about the Heralds...can Galactus' heralds do ne of that ?

Can they survive being cut in two ?

❌

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
First age- your average herald

second age - maybe Thanos level

Third age - back around Herald level, maybe around Stardust or Surfer

Fourth age - possible Skyfather, but we don't know much yet.

Even here, Beta Ray Howard admits he believes First Age Spawn was herald level, and now you guys try to argue that God Spawn is Herald level ?????

🤨 ????

Sorry I don't read to much Spawn but this is one of his top feats that he could create a planet?

Originally posted by thedude1948
Okay MoM was holding a sphere then he says to Spawn "take back what you destroyed. Make it whole again." Now Spawn is holding the sphere..... all powerful? ❌

1) Spawn re created the Earth..... what are you trying to deny ?

2) MoM CLEARLY stated that spawn had the power to do so.....read the comic again.....she was guiding him as to how to do it, since he never created a world before.

3) He then closes Heaven and Hell, two pocket dimensions to the Earth....

4) Mom stated that God and Satan are Immortal and all powerful. God Spawn is the equal of God and Satan....

How are you going to argue against that ?

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Sorry I don't read to much Spawn but this is one of his top feats that he could create a planet?

1) God Spawn re created the Earth and everyone on it.

2) He destroyed the armies of Heaven and Hell

3) He closed off Heaven and Hell to Earth

4) He sent EVERY Hellspawn back to Earth

5) He destroyed Zera who is beyond herald level

6) He is immortal and all powerful

Originally posted by Rewmac
The question is can Galactus's herald be cut in two the way Spawn was??

thedude stated he was cut in peices, and it was the old ages of Spawn who was cut up....

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
1) God Spawn re created the Earth and everyone on it.

2) He destroyed the armies of Heaven and Hell

3) He closed off Heaven and Hell to Earth

4) He sent EVERY Hellspawn back to Earth

5) He destroyed Zera who is beyond herald level

6) He is immortal and all powerful

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
In that case even Marvel Odin would ***** him with ease.

Originally posted by Rewmac
And just imagine if Odin would **** him up like he did to Thanos then a lot of characters could deal with current Spawn.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Did you know that Odin can easily create solar systems and once he was sending shock waves through out the Multiverse?
Odin said after he fought Thanos that eons have passed since he had a fight like this.

Yeah, and compare this to the fight with God vs Satan in Spawn which was described as "tearing down mountains."

Originally posted by thedude1948
Yeah, and compare this to the fight with God vs Satan in Spawn which was described as "tearing down mountains."

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
WOW! Tearing down mountains!!! 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

yeah doesn't really compare to Multiversal shockwaves .... (or even Silver Surfer vs Ravenous.) 🙂

did you now that most characters get depowered including galactus ever since eternity was introduced, he was once called the greatest power in the universe not so anymore. And anyway god and satan whom spawn was equal to created heaven and hell nearly infinite or infinite universe i dont see odin doing that.

spawn would be a problem for alot of people in the MU and DCU, he cant be killed or destroyed, i dont see him just losing but if the spectre showed up there would be big problems and LT whatever dont get me started on that jobber.

But if you ask me if spawn could take down skyfathers umm let me think in his second age form he could stop time, and other such feats, he even remade the world, and had hellfire that could melt heavens gates, these feats are on par with rune king thor.

there have been two spawns who have killed gods in the Image universe the one from curse of the spawn and godslayer.

i dont believe spawn can defeat the entire MU or DCU nope but would he put up a heck of a fight oh yes he would, he might even equal anyone in there arsenal. im SOOOOOOOO sure mcfarlen is gonna make spawn weaker then MU and DCU characters since he use to work for one of these companies did he not less im mistaken.

Beta ray howard just keeps saying that we say he can defeat the entire mu and dcu which is not what we're saying we're just saying that his power level is way up there, if you wanna talk about DUMB why dont you talk about yourself howard saying that spawn is only dr strange level, wow your a pure comic book genius buddy.

Howard is so smart and such a genious he puts exodus, shaman nate gray, and dr strange above spawn gOD SPAWN not normal spawn but gOD SPAWN.

A depowered tyrant cant even take on thanos and even a full powered tyrant can be killed or havent you heard HE'S DEAD! oh i remeber that you and your friend sayd tyrant where also stronger then spawn like i said this guy is a pure genius, he also said he was weaker then thanos

FOR THE FINAL TIME spawn is a uber powerful guy i dont see anyone in the MU or DCU just snap him out of existence at his peak which might not even be his peak since he now has to fight someone else. I DONT THINK HE CAN JUST WALTZ IN THERE AND TAKE OVER, eventually he would be stopped but he'd sure take alot of people down with him.

PS howard GROW UP you own every comic about spawn you say yet you come here every day saying spawn is this and that and weak, your arguments are pretty weak all this guy ever does is say oh mider and urizen said this and that he never once puts up any good reasons why we're wrong.

So Urizen you've dodged the question...

Can Spawn beat LT?

when it comes down to feats i just dont know spawn sealed off heaven and hell, recreated the earth and such. all ive ever seen LT do is depower the IG which use to be a big feat but now we know the IG has been retconned to be weaker then eternity, also LT ran from a fight with korvac, what lord order and chaos said seemed to say he was the same LT in all universes and LT himself kinda leaned tword that argument saying he had bigger responsibilities then to just one universe, lord order and chaos said there where other lord orders and chaoses pointing out to me at least that that LT was the same LT in all universes.

He ran from a fight with korvac after he made a sun go nova he said that was the best he could do, korvac was more powerful then eternity by then of course.

one guy said LT created a universe out of the SS cause he made SS look like eternity some might think that all he did was put SS in touch with all the universe not make a new one.

He held the pheonix avatar in his hand, the pheonix force in each universe is not the complete force just to make that clear so sure i guess he can do that to at least a bit of the force, even galactus almost killed the PF, and the goblin force did eat it.

but we might say that LT is weaker then the PF because it also held the universe in its hands. Also LT was seen to bow or something to LT in a x-men comic where eternity was showing the cycle of death and rebirth of a universe.

When it comes down to feats LT just doesnt have that many good ones, servent of god or not but you can argue its just an m-body thats pretty odd in the old days there was no m-bodys but i guess today they changed that, may i also mention the LT got his powers copied by a MUTANT and had to have a celestial kill that mutant not himself.

so when it comes down to feats i say spawn can defeat the LT's m-body but since in marvel now a days there has never been a scene of the real LT perhaps the real LT is to powerful for him i can accept that. But based on feats alone id say spawn can give the LT a very hard time maybe even defeat him, go ahead and stone me if you want for my opinions there just my opinions and personal beliefs put together by what ive read about LT and his feats and spawn as well.

come on people in all fearness spawn fighting god and satan just tearing down mountains can be considered an understatement since we know spawn destroyed the world, and had the power to recreate it, even spectre vs captain marvel was stated by some of you to be only nuclear bombs going off in there battle, though captain marvel was said to be powered by many many warriors gods ive heard thousands.

my final remark is that if LT can really do what he claims such as destroy universe and such and all this nonsense IVE NEVER SEEN happen, then i guess he would defeat Spawn.

The IG was never weaker then IG, that never happened.

And LT can destroy universes, he's far beyond Phoenix. He's second only to TOAA.