Originally posted by Mider999
its on both of us, not just one, you stated LT was this and that so thats your burden.
If IG is stronger then Eternity, then that in itself is a universal feat. To counter that, you need to prove that the IG is weaker then Eternity, which was your initial claim.
i guess i was wrong since i cant find those statements about the retconned so i concede the point none the less, i never saw LT actually defeat the IG, in fact he said i dont know if i can beat the IG, ive seen teh scans and dont ask me to scan them i dont have a scanner. If you wanna say the IG was not allowed to function together cause of the LT well i can say that even though warlock is not as powerful as the LT he was able to make it so that the mind gem can never be used to its full potential meaning LT could have just done the same thing not counting on his own power.
who told you he ruled the omniverse you know that that would mean he rules over all the universe including DC which does not sound right, if im wrong then MU needs to change the wording omniverse meaning all the universes and multiverses.
where did you see him destroy galaxies and nebulas, and eternity said he was his pear, and LT bowed to the PF, ive already pointed out how he could have shut the IG down how ANYONE could have and how he said he might not be able to defeat it.
i thought it happend in x-men forever.
if he's all that and a cup of tea then ill concede he would defeat spawn, but even angela a lower character in spawn could kill a being that consumed multie galaxy life, and there was other angels who i believe where weaker then angela i might be wrong but she or they could make stars go nova.
IM not saying that spawn can defeat EVERYONE in MU or DCU but howard is just ticking me off by saying that spawn is like dr strange level or thanos level that just tells me he doesnt know what he's talking about. I mean it wouldnt suprise me that MU and DCU can defeat image they always are pulling things out of there hats that can snap there fingers and destroy universes, but am i gonna be like howard and say MAN SPAWN IS LAME AND CAN GET OWNED BY ANYONE IN DC AND MU no im not gonna say that.
Originally posted by King Kandy
So Urizen you've dodged the question...Can Spawn beat LT?
I think LT has a much better chance of defeating God Spawn, then vise versa....consider the following:
1) LT has existed for how long......eternity no ? His experience in power and authority, farrr exceeds Spawn's.
2) LT has shut down the IG which had universal power.....God Spawn has not done anything to Image's entire Universe.....whether he can or not is a different story, but the point is he didn't.
3) Even if LT can't destroy Spawn, he doesn't have to. He can easily banish him to a secluded universe, in a void, or what have you. Urizen wasn't able to be destroyed either, but he was trapped in a Void for eons.
I beleive Spawn can still take on the likes of Odin and Galactus....the simple fact is that God Spawn is undestroyable and immortal. Galactus and Odin...what are they gonna do ?
Blasting him, cutting him, whatever will not effect Spawn...if God Spawn could even be harmed, then God and Satan may have had a chance to defeat him...
But it has been CLEARLY stated that the battle between God, Satan, and God Spawn would never end, because none of them could ever be destroyed.....
What does that tell you ?
God Spawn cannot be destroyed.....Galactus and Odin have no chance, because no matter how much they dish out, God Spawn will still be in tact and at full power, and he will tire them out eventually.....
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I think LT has a much better chance of defeating God Spawn, then vise versa....consider the following:1) LT has existed for how long......eternity no ? His experience in power and authority, farrr exceeds Spawn's.
2) LT has shut down the IG which had universal power.....God Spawn has not done anything to Image's entire Universe.....whether he can or not is a different story, but the point is he didn't.
3) Even if LT can't destroy Spawn, he doesn't have to. He can easily banish him to a secluded universe, in a void, or what have you. Urizen wasn't able to be destroyed either, but he was trapped in a Void for eons.
I beleive Spawn can still take on the likes of Odin and Galactus....the simple fact is that God Spawn is undestroyable and immortal. Galactus and Odin...what are they gonna do ?
Blasting him, cutting him, whatever will not effect Spawn...if God Spawn could even be harmed, then God and Satan may have had a chance to defeat him...
But it has been CLEARLY stated that the battle between God, Satan, and God Spawn would never end, because none of them could ever be destroyed.....
What does that tell you ?
[b]God Spawn cannot be destroyed.....Galactus and Odin have no chance, because no matter how much they dish out, God Spawn will still be in tact and at full power, and he will tire them out eventually.....
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First. That's vice versa. Second. God Spawn can be destroyed by something above him. Like Living Tribunal or TOAA (which we know nothing about, but if he is stronger than LT then...) The thing is LT is multiversal. As long as I'm not convinced that God Spawn cannot be killed by someone so powerful that LT who even exist in different time phrases. He doesn't really need to show feats and he is still feared.
Big thing Spawn has been cut into two so??? The Living Tribunal is above the magical power that created the current Spawn I'm sure of it. Why??
Spawn ---> One World Threat
LT ---> Multiversal
Multiverse >>> One World (meaning a planet)
you have proof he's a one world threat buddy? as far as i remeber image god and satan had created there own realms and spawn could probably do the same, he did in fact seal them off, and obliterate there armies.
One angel in gods army can create nova and thats a lower angel
angela one of the lower characters killed a multi galaxy life killing being the argus
thor was already king thor level in the second age.
and being stronger doesnt say you can kill someone, we all know odin is stronger then cyttorak but because of his power he cant be hurt not even by odin, not even by galactus ive heard, only guy ive ever heard of hurting juggernaut even a bit was onslaught and the other templars cause they themselves had powers of there respective gods perhaps equal to cyttorak whom odin fears.
Even at his weakest power setting urizen was not able to be killed, at his strongest he was not killed, BOTH heaven and hell had to trap him, all the armies couldnt do nothing to him sept that.
But of course the MoM can destroy spawn she can just strip him of his powers, maybe LT can do the same, who cares he's a due ex machina they always have the power to win, its like fighting the spectre you always know your gonna lose. meaning this is a lame spite thread by a guy who knows as much about comics as he does about math, nearly nothing from what he's posted. Wow howard you sure showed us, with this thread, did you tell everyone how you reported urizen cause of insults yeah i remeber insults comming from you too.
i even had to close my thread down cause all you did was start junk and never bring a shred of evidence, nobody here ever brought no evidence either that LT was all that at least me and urizen said that if LT was indeed all that he would win, lame a$$ spite thread howard lame as heck grow up and get over your grudge nobody cares