Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Why not? To me, it shows that despite being "Monsters", they have somehow retained some of their humanity. KILL KILL KILL doesnt cut it for me. Hell, even Bram Stoker's Dracula fell in love.Did you read the Anne Rice novels, particularly Queen of the Damned?
Why though? That's what's shit.
"Despite so and so, they/he/she/it fell in love.". Who cares? Why does there always have to be a side that shows love and humanity? It's like when someone is remaking or adapting something into a movie. You always get the "We've made it more modern, sexier, funnier." remark. Why? Make it how it is.
The whole point of vampirism is to be stripped of humanity and be overwhelmed with a hunger beyond your control unless you kill to quench it. If seeing a pretty lady is enough to override such a curse, then you're not cursed, you're a pussy and I can't take said "curse" seriously. Drug addicts don't quit when their loved ones say so, why should literally cursed beings be able to ignore their desires in favour of love? It's for the girls, man.
Yes, not a fan, as I said.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriIt makes for a more interesting vampire. If all vampires were depicted as one dimensional monsters, then they wouldn't be near as interesting. The Anne Rice vampires, I will admit, were a bit elegant, but her writing supersedes that for me.
Why though? That's what's shit."Despite so and so, they/he/she/it fell in love.". Who cares? Why does there always have to be a side that shows love and humanity? It's like when someone is remaking or adapting something into a movie. You always get the "We've made it more modern, sexier, funnier." remark. Why? Make it how it is.
The Perfect Vampire IMO was Marcus from Underworld 2. He could shapeshift from human looking to...well, something other.
The whole point of vampirism is to be stripped of humanity and be overwhelmed with a hunger beyond your control unless you kill to quench it. If seeing a pretty lady is enough to override such a curse, then you're not cursed, you're a pussy and I can't take said "curse" seriously.As I said, boring....One dimensionality. Is that a word? dimensionality?
Anyhoo, what's your opinion of Bram Stoker's Dracula? Or the Dracula from Van Helsing? Lastly, Drake from the last Blade movie?
Drug addicts don't quit when their loved ones say so, why should literally cursed beings be able to ignore their desires in favour of love? It's for the girls, man.Huh? I get your point, but what are you referring to? A certain part of the Anne Rice novels, Louis maybe?
Yes, not a fan, as I said.Meh, they aren't for everybody I guess.-AC
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
It makes for a more interesting vampire. If all vampires were depicted as one dimensional monsters, then they wouldn't be near as interesting. The Anne Rice vampires, I will admit, were a bit elegant, but her writing supersedes that for me.The Perfect Vampire IMO was Marcus from Underworld 2. He could shapeshift from human looking to...well, something other.
As I said, boring....One dimensionality. Is that a word? dimensionality?
They're not meant to be interesting, though, are they? I can understand if you want to make an individual character interesting, but don't take away precisely what he is, which is a killer.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Anyhoo, what's your opinion of Bram Stoker's Dracula? Or the Dracula from Van Helsing? Lastly, Drake from the last Blade movie?
Drake was shit because Dominic Purcell couldn't act worth a penny. As a basic premise, he is what a vampire would be like, to me.
Dracula from Van Helsing was shit. Bram's Dracula was good, but again, due to Gary Oldman. I don't think romance should play a part.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Huh? I get your point, but what are you referring to? A certain part of the Anne Rice novels, Louis maybe?
Nah, just various vampire romance tales.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWho says they are supposed to be straight up killers? Who says they can't have a conscience, a human side to them? After all, they were human once, why strip them of all their humanity?They're not meant to be interesting, though, are they? I can understand if you want to make an individual character interesting, but don't take away precisely what he is, which is a killer.
Drake was shit because Dominic Purcell couldn't act worth a penny. As a basic premise, he is what a vampire would be like, to me.I was talking about the character themselves, their powers and attributes. Their behavioral patterns, not the acting job done.Dracula from Van Helsing was shit. Bram's Dracula was good, but again, due to Gary Oldman. I don't think romance should play a part.
[b]Nah, just various vampire romance tales.Well, as I said before, why strip them of all their humanity?-AC
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Who says they are supposed to be straight up killers? Who says they can't have a conscience, a human side to them? After all, they were human once, why strip them of all their humanity?I was talking about the character themselves, their powers and attributes. Their behavioral patterns, not the acting job done.
Well, as I said before, why strip them of all their humanity?
Because they're not meant to be human anymore, they're meant to lose humanity.
Even so, there are a million and one human emotions to use instead of romance, it's sickening and for the women. No other reason is there.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriWell, as I said, IMO, a straight up monster is boring. The 30 days of night vampires were boring IMO.
Because they're not meant to be human anymore, they're meant to lose humanity.Even so, there are a million and one human emotions to use instead of romance, it's sickening and for the women. No other reason is there.
-AC
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, as I said, IMO, a straight up monster is boring. The 30 days of night vampires were boring IMO.
Yeah that is one film that wasted about an hour of my life. It so totally anti-climaxed my expectations I didn't even watch it to the end!
Anyway I think vamps are supposed to sexy, they're supposed to be a temptation into what is wrong. Yeah they're evil in that they crave blood and kill without mercy but showing a slighty humanesque side to them also shows the suffering that is involved in becoming one.
With that in mind lets bring on Selene...