Storm vs. Hulk

Started by Bentley27 pages

I am confused about the "thunder-clapping a dimension" thingy, I mean, lets say that Hulk by some imposible miracle manages to create enough pressure to destroy atoms at a neutronic level and cause an explosion big enough to obliterate a large space -after all, pressure its what they use to fuel atomic reactors.

My issue is this: How in heck can Hulk survive that and how does his atoms dont get involved in the chain reaction that obliterates the universe? I dont get it, is it also a stupid-good durability feat? Maybe it was a dimension that could be only destroyed by thunderclapping, that would make sense.

Originally posted by Bentley
I am confused about the "thunderclapping a dimension" thingy, I mean, lets say that Hulk by some imposible miracle managas to create enough pressure to destroy atoms at a neutronic level and cause an explosion big enough to obliterate a large space -after all, pressure its what they use to fuel atomic reactors.

My issue is this: How in heck can Hulk survive that and how does his atoms dont get involved in the chain reaction that obliterates the universe? I dont get it, is it also a stupid-good durability feat? Maybe it was a dimension that could be only destroyed by thunderclapping, that would make sense.

Look at it this way:

It makes no sense no matter which way you put it.
It was pis, especially since we have tons of feats of him thunderclapping and not destroying people, like a dimension destroying thunderclap should.

Yes, but you can counter that by saying Hulk didnt use the same strenght to make the thunderclap. I agree that the feat is nonesense, but there is no current way to prove it wrong other than common sense and to list Hulk at his average power level instead of including ridiculous feats.

Originally posted by Bentley
Yes, but you can counter that by saying Hulk didnt use the same strenght to make the thunderclap. I agree that the feat is nonesense, but there is no current way to prove it wrong other than common sense and to list Hulk at his average power level instead of including ridiculous feats.
He was barely mad when he did that...

I hope it get reconned and they make that Hulk an avatar of the living tribunal.

Originally posted by Bentley
I hope it get reconned and they make that Hulk an avatar of the living tribunal.
I just hope they take the "Hulk is the strongest character ever!" out of comics. It is so wrong, and yet people use it to say he can beat Galactus...

Or even give him a defined limit.

Originally posted by bigbran
I just hope they take the "Hulk is the strongest character ever!" out of comics. It is so wrong, and yet people use it to say he can beat Galactus...

Or even give him a defined limit.

hulk's limit are his detractors like you

Originally posted by bigbran
I just hope they take the "Hulk is the strongest character ever!" out of comics. It is so wrong, and yet people use it to say he can beat Galactus...

Or even give him a defined limit.

But technically he is because there is not limit to his strength, how they use that strength is in question but the title fits.

I think he should have a limit. I can expand my imagination enough to accept infinite strength, but not infinite anger. I can't see anyone getting angrier beyond a certain point. They should have made it, the longer he stays angry the stronger he gets.

For instance, if someone were to kill Betty, I think that would be the angriest he would ever get. His human side should also limit just how far he could go.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
I think he should have a limit. I can expand my imagination enough to accept infinite strength, but not infinite anger. I can't see anyone getting angrier beyond a certain point. They should have made it, the longer he stays angry the stronger he gets.

For instance, if someone were to kill Betty, I think that would be the angriest he would ever get. His human side should also limit just how far he could go.

hulk's rage is infinite 😛

Originally posted by batdude123
I'm sorry, but this statement is rather rediculous. I understand you love Storm, but don't be an idiot.

I don't care if Cyclops happened to miss her with a blast, she's not fast enough to do shit like that.

This is comics. A number of characters can dodge Scott's beams. Storm is one of them. Regardless of that, she has dodged energy blasts often.

Also, Hulk is not throwing anything at light speed. Now that we have that settled, somebody tell me about Hulk collapsint he Dark Dimension with a single clap. Somethings tells me its being blown way out of proportion because I don't believe he could say, destroy the Earth, with a clap.

As for Hulk jumping and hitting a flying Storm, that it totally ridiculous. He cannot change his trajectory once airborn, she can. Heck, she could add her winds to his leap and hurl him into space. What's he going to do? He can't navigate through space.He leaps, she can use her winds to send him wherever she wants.

I am going to read more posts to see if he can in fact breathe in a vacuum. If not, Storm has him. The problem with Hulk is he's too much of a one-trick pony while Storm can hit him many different ways.

Originally posted by guy222
hulk's rage is infinite 😛

How does one have infinite rage?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
"I could feel Onslaught's grasp on him as I slid into his brain"

was Onslaught controling him or something?

I read it as an attack on Hulk's mind

Onslaught never attacked Hulk in that story. Hulk attacked Cable and Storm because of Onslaught's directives. He was under Onslaught's mind control.

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Another thing to add, here's the clash between him and Ironclad that sends ripples through countless dimensions:
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/STRENGTH/Crazy-IH305.jpg

and punching through a time storm:
http://files.photojerk.com/Jonathanos/STRENGTH/Crazy-IH135.jpg

If you think Storm could contain that, then you are either a moron, or a Storm Fanboy.

Storm can beat that. Storm can see even empty space as patterns of energy and forces and bend it to her will. (Uncanny 166) In Uncanny 359, Juggernault grew so powerful that he was punching through dimensions. Storm and the X-Men were kidnapped to the dimension where Juggernaut was. He created a tear in time and space and Storm controlled the elemental forces and mended it. If you are going to go to these extremes with Hulk, then so will I with Storm.

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Good for her. Hulk's been tossing mountains for about twenty years now.

With ease. 😉

Air pressure does not stop concussive force. That's a priciple of physics, which you obviously know nothing about.

The funny thing is that you think it can contain a blast from Hulk's hands that destroyed an entire dimension.

Where did Hulk toss a mountain? I read an issue years ago where he had to support the weight of an entire mountain on his back and it was very difficult for him. On the other hand, Storm can generate winds strong enough to level mountains. Hulk has no defense whatsoever against Storm's winds. He has no realistic way of anchoring himself against them.

Can he survive if Storm took all the air from him? Hulk adapting to under water is not the same since even fish need air. There is some oxygen present even there.

Originally posted by Rutog98
Storm can beat that. Storm can see even empty space as patterns of energy and forces and bend it to her will. (Uncanny 166) In Uncanny 359, Juggernault grew so powerful that he was punching through dimensions. Storm and the X-Men were kidnapped to the dimension where Juggernaut was. He created a tear in time and space and Storm controlled the elemental forces and mended it. If you are going to go to these extremes with Hulk, then so will I with Storm.
Nothing remotely like that happens in Uncanny X-Men #359. Storm isn't even in Uncanny X-Men #359. Nor is Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Air Pressure is impossible as used in this defense of Storm's (to produce air pressure the gas must be compressed by something). To defend herself with air she would have to expell it from very near her body at extreme speeds for a long period of time. There is very little difference between air pressure and wind as pressure gradiants are the cause of winds on earth.

If she was really good she could create a wave of negative pressure to oppose Hulks thunderclap

Air pressure can cause earthquakes? 😆 😆 😆

Storm controls heat and pressure gradiants. I'm thinking she probably controlled heat and pressure within the earth in that instance to cause the earthquake.

Originally posted by Rutog98
Where did Hulk toss a mountain? I read an issue years ago where he had to support the weight of an entire mountain on his back and it was very difficult for him. On the other hand, Storm can generate winds strong enough to level mountains. Hulk has no defense whatsoever against Storm's winds. He has no realistic way of anchoring himself against them.

Can he survive if Storm took all the air from him? Hulk adapting to under water is not the same since even fish need air. There is some oxygen present even there.

Hulk can adapt to survive in the vacuum and coldness of space, so...yes.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
IN order to take out a being like the Hulk, you need like Thor power, or Siver Surfer Power. Storm is neither.

Okay, I am going to say this: Storm has more fine-tuned control over the weather than Thor. To boot, I would argue that she is every bit as powerful an elemental as he if not stronger. Albeit, he has other abilities besides his elemental ones, but you are not giving Storm her full credit with this one. I don't think Storm can take Silver Surfer or anything, but Thor by no means dwarfs Storm as an elemental.

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
😐

Those thunderclaps have done more damage than what Storm can protect. Nothing short of Magneto's shields could hold back Hulk's force.

In that case, Storm has nothing to fear. She has knocked down Magneto's force-field before.

Also, there are other things Storm can do. I can recall Ultimate Storm creating a miniature thunderstorm in Iceman's intestines. Hulk has a bloodflow which means water. Storm can control water and water currents. She has controlled ocean currents on a number of occassions. She has even shaped water droplets in the sky to form a lens that magnified specific solar radiations. She controls electrical and magnetic fields. Hulk has these things too. He has no way of combatting Storm if she starts attacking him at these very intimate levels. She could very well knock him out of the fight.