Ryu vs Terry Bogard

Started by Major Snafu45 pages

Ryu vs Terry Bogard

Terry had failed to fight Ryu in Osaka. Now, he has that opportunity, since he finds Ryu in San Francisco visiting the Masters family.

The stage is inside Ken's Masters Estate dojo. Each fighter is at their strongest incarnation.

There is no animosity between these two. They have nothing but respect for one another.

oh no! major what did you do?! KMC will become the new flamewille with everyone nuking one another......you did a bad thing!
😄
but now that you asked....
since you say strongest incarnation then its MOTW Terry against SF3 Ryu.
Terry will win after a great fight.
why?
read:
-experience: Terry's been fighting for well over 25 years now. He was even fighting on the streets when Jeff discovered him and Andy. He lived for a few years with Jeff but at the age of 10 Jeff was killed by his "future personal b!tch" Geese. Since then Terry's been fighting on the streets of Southtown that is loaded with good fighters from all disciplines. Terry fought every day for 10 years to prepare him for his fight with Geese. He won against Geese at the age of 20 and then still remained on the streets. By MOTW he's STILL on the streets and is 35 years old. That is a whooping 25 years on the streets...and almost 30 if you count his years fighting prior to Jeff finding him. Since he was fighting EVERYDAY in those 10 years he was preparing for his fight with Geese, and he fought in street brawls he alone has definitely fought more than 10,000 opponents in that time alone. Then you have 25 more years of fighting not only in a city full of fighter (Southtown) but also the world over. That is DEFINITELY more fighters that Terry has faced than Ryu…without a shadow of doubt. Most definitely he's fought WAY MORE opponents than Ryu since he's been not only fighting for longer but also across the world like Ryu and in Southtown itself where there are fighters roaming all the time. Ryu's only been on the streets since the age of 23 and he's been a dojo nerd for all the years before. You have around 30 years of fighting experience versus 10.
-speed: no question about it. Terry's a lot faster than Ryu. In fact buster wolf and shining knuckle not only take more life than shinshoryuken but are A LOT faster. They are both a damn blur. In the regular moves, not a single move that Ryu pulls off is faster than burn knuckle.
-power: this one is arguable. The fact that moves like shining knuckle, power stream, triple geyser and rising beat take more than shinshoryuken can be used but then that's only in game. So I don't know. If the rumors of Terry being able to overturn cars with the burn knuckle is true then that is a lot of power for a regular move…..but that was from answers.com and wikipedia some time back so i won't say they are reliable. if this is true then you have a 'car over turning move' against a projectile that feels like being hit by a well landed kick...which is the canon description of what hadou-ken is like.
-career: you have 25-30 years of fighting and an UNBEATEN record against Ryu’s multiple loses to even non-god tier opponents. in fact ryu has lost to lowers tiers like his loss to ken. he lost to Sagat who is NO godtier but high tier and he had to resort to shinshoryuken to defeat Hugo...a higher-mid tier or just midtier. terry's faced and beaten things like krauser, geese, nightmare geese, jin twins (in a two on one fight), yamazaki, orochi, iori, kyo, k', ash, ryo etc...the list goes on. and he is THE UNBEATEN WOLF.

Terry's got a better "fighting portfolio" than Ryu. Plus aside from Bison, Oro and Akuma (who wasn't even fighting as shin Akuma) Ryu hasn't faced that high tier characters. Hugo was mid tier. Ken is below Ryu. Sagat is probably more even (and he was even defeated as Psycho Ryu). Yet he was defeated by them all or was pushed to his limit.
Kyo, Iori, Ryo etc are all at the same tier as Terry yet none ever beat him. The fact that he was "saved by the bell" can even be used against Kyo and the others too.
Aside from that Terry's fought Krauser (god tier in FF timeline), Yamazaki (god tier in FF timeline), Geese, Nightmare Geese (another god tier), Jin twins, Grant and he defeated them all ONE ON ONE (and one on TWO in Jins' case). terry took on TWO godtiers at the same time...that's balls...and guts and spirit.

If you really, really think about it, there really is nothing to think about. All evidence proves that Terry is the superior fighter. He’s got the better fighter resume, more experience, greater speed than ryu, arguably more power and definitely more heart.
besides Terry also edges cuz of his engRish taunts.😆

"HEY COME ON COME ON!"

~The Invincible Sado-sama

May it be heard that it was Major Snafu the one who opened this Pandora´s box. That being said:

Terry. Better wins record, faster, and more versatible without losing the hitting power.

* The "Ultimate Punani" Master bows and leaves *

Originally posted by olympian
May it be heard that it was Major Snafu the one who opened this Pandora´s box. That being said:

Terry. Better wins record, faster, and more versatible without losing the hitting power.

* The "Ultimate Punani" Master bows and leaves *

I thought I opened up Pandora's box when I did the SF/DOA thread.

This box was opened a while back actually. http://www.killermovies.com/forums/365894_1-ryu-vs-terry-bogard Ryu still wins via not jobbing🙂. No time limits to save anybody here either.

This box was opened a while back actually. http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...vs-terry-bogard Ryu still wins via not jobbing. No time limits to save anybody here either.

look whose back!
welcome back mang! 😄
oh and i'm so convinced with your huge reply. 😂
no jobbing: Terry>>Ryu
jobbing: Terry>>Ryu
experience: Terry>>Ryu
speed: Terry>>Ryu
career: Terry>>Ryu
power: TErry?>>Ryu

and so.............TERRY>>>>>>>>>>>>Ryu 😄

Live with it.

~The Invincible Sado-sama

Originally posted by Sado22
look whose back!
welcome back mang! 😄
oh and i'm so convinced with your huge reply. 😂
no jobbing: Terry>>Ryu
jobbing: Terry>>Ryu
experience: Terry>>Ryu
speed: Terry>>Ryu
career: Terry>>Ryu
power: TErry?>>Ryu

and so.............TERRY>>>>>>>>>>>>Ryu 😄

Live with it.

~The Invincible Sado-sama

💃 💃

by the way I am the guy that opened the first Pandora's box

Originally posted by Sado22
look whose back!
welcome back mang! 😄
oh and i'm so convinced with your huge reply. 😂
no jobbing: Terry>>Ryu
jobbing: Terry>>Ryu
experience: Terry>>Ryu
speed: Terry>>Ryu
career: Terry>>Ryu
power: TErry?>>Ryu

and so.............TERRY>>>>>>>>>>>>Ryu 😄

Live with it.

~The Invincible Sado-sama


LMAO 😆

I still say Ryu. Bison can beat Geese yet Terry barely beat Geese and by the time of 3rd Strike Ryu is stronger than Bison. Urien is stronger than Bison and Ken, a warrior slightly lesser than Ryu was able to go toe to toe with Urien, although the winner of the battle between Urien and Ken was never stated.

terry.

how did you get 3rd strike ryu, urien being stronger than alpha bison without assumptions

I still say Ryu. Bison can beat Geese yet Terry barely beat Geese and by the time of 3rd Strike Ryu is stronger than Bison. Urien is stronger than Bison and Ken, a warrior slightly lesser than Ryu was able to go toe to toe with Urien, although the winner of the battle between Urien and Ken was never stated.

-Terry beat Geese in FF1 at the age of 20. Barely or not is up to assumption.
-Terry beat Nightmare Geese by really really kicking the shit out of him to the point where N.Geese couldn't even do raging storm. Nightmare Geese is godtier. Name me one godtier or hightier character that Ryu has ever beaten? Please, i beg you.

secondly,
-3rd Strike Ryu is still 3rd highest tier...while SF2 Bison was 2nd highest tier. SFA bison was godtier. so no, SF3 Ryu is not stronger than even SF2 Bison.
-Ken may be weaker than Ryu but he has beaten his ass down before.
-Urien and Ken's fight isn't even a canon thing. the fight that Urien did canon wise go through in SF3 3rd strike was with Chunli.
-also you don't know if Ken went toe-to-toe with Urien.

no beef remulus but you are making too many assumptions.
You remember that movie, undersiege 2 with Steve Segal. the catchline of that movie was: "assumption is the mother of all f-ck ups!"🙂

~The Invincible Sado-sama

I say draw because these too are my 2 fav charters in there respective univerces.
I dont think they would pull out all the stops on this one simply because they are so much alike in terms of personality. Plus I think that terry may understand the wondering warrior better then ken simply because he is the lone wulf.

Originally posted by Sado22
-Terry beat Geese in FF1 at the age of 20. Barely or not is up to assumption.
-Terry beat Nightmare Geese by really really kicking the shit out of him to the point where N.Geese couldn't even do raging storm. Nightmare Geese is godtier. Name me one godtier or hightier character that Ryu has ever beaten? Please, i beg you.
Well I guess I really can't but the fact is other than Ken everyone Ryu has lost to is far stronger than Geese.

Originally posted by Sado22
-secondly,
3rd Strike Ryu is still 3rd highest tier...while SF2 Bison was 2nd highest tier. SFA bison was godtier. so no, SF3 Ryu is not stronger than even SF2 Bison.
A non Shin Gouki EASILY killed SF2 Bison this Gouki is not much stronger than that of the Alpha, contrary to popular belief 3rd Strike Ryu may not be that far behind Gouki if behind at all.
Originally posted by Sado22
-Ken may be weaker than Ryu but he has beaten his ass down before.
Still in the end Ryu proved himself to be the better warrior by winning their latest battle. If Ken can beat Geese then Ryu can beat Geese even more.
Originally posted by Sado22
-secondly,-Urien and Ken's fight isn't even a canon thing. the fight that Urien did canon wise go through in SF3 3rd strike was with Chunli.
-also you don't know if Ken went toe-to-toe with Urien.
Ya know, actualy Ken is probaly stronger than Urien, ya know, he is.

Originally posted by Sado22
-no beef remulus but you are making too many assumptions.
You remember that movie, undersiege 2 with Steve Segal. the catchline of that movie was: "assumption is the mother of all f-ck ups!"🙂

~The Invincible Sado-sama

😆 ,Yes I have seen that movie, the fact is the people Ryu lost to, Terry can't beat either.If Terry draws with Ken then how does he beat Ryu? Looks to me like you guys are picking Terry becuase you like him more.

ell I guess I really can't but the fact is other than Ken everyone Ryu has lost to is far stronger than Geese.

well he probably lost to Hugo as well in case you're wondering. in FFSW, Kyle beat down Hugo's @$$ and Kyle aint even a real pro.

A non Shin Gouki EASILY killed SF2 Bison this Gouki is not much stronger than that of the Alpha, contrary to popular belief 3rd Strike Ryu may not be that far behind Gouki if behind at all.

ahem. gouki is same tier as SF2 bison. SHIN akuma is godtier. however, prior to SF3, Akuma's strongest move was the shugoukusatsu, right? hence if he was to pull of a shungoukusatsu it means that he was being shinakuma and not regular akuma since sgs is his STRONGEST. hence, shin akuma killed SF2 Bison.
secondly, 3rd strike Ryu is STILL 3rd level tier. not high tier or god tier. what part of that don't you understand?

Still in the end Ryu proved himself to be the better warrior by winning their latest battle. If Ken can beat Geese then Ryu can beat Geese even more.

i know...i'm just bringing to your attention that ken isn't "weaker" to the point that he is no match to Ryu. that's all.

Ya know, actualy Ken is probaly stronger than Urien, ya know, he is.

i seriously doubt it. give me a few days, i'll check it on tiamat's faq....too lazy right now. 🙂

Yes I have seen that movie, the fact is the people Ryu lost to, Terry can't beat either.If Terry draws with Ken then how does he beat Ryu? Looks to me like you guys are picking Terry becuase you like him more.

you've seen that movie? 😆
cool...its only after that did i know that a soup kitchen is every martial artist's holy ground. 😆
as for Terry and Ken...no offense to you but i don't see ken beating Terry. not now. not ever. my whole effin thesis in my first post in this thread should paint the picture for you. if you're basing this on rumors then Terry HAS BEATEN ken...provided those rumors are true.
Also if like terry the most however i don't make him beat those i don't see him beating. i said flat out he'd lose to even regular akuma. its just that as opposed to Ryu, Terry HAS beaten godtiers. Ryu never has. Heck, Ryu has never even beaten hightiers. Sagat bitched him bad on two occassions...once even though he was Psycho Ryu which is equivalent of Evil Ryu.
you see, Terry edges against Ken in ALL departments.
experience: yes. he's been fighting for 25-30 years on the streets. Ken's not even a street fighter. also Ken was a dojo dork for most of his career anyway.
speed: again Terry. compare speed of burnknuckle TO ANY MOVE OF KEN. even in specials bring anymove of ken that is faster than shining kncukle or buster wolf. i dare you. 🙂
power: not one move of ken aside from shoryuken can even knock down the opponent. aside from crackshot, ALL of terry's move knock his opponent down.
heart: ken doesn't have that great a heart since most of Ken's competition has been 3rd rate. his known fights are Ryu, sakura, karin and sean. he also fought bison WITH Sakura. that's crappy competition and you know it. school girls and freakin rookies. Terry's fought godtiers, highteirs and what not.

after all this i just don't see ANY WAY for ken winning. he is outclassed in all departments. the only thing that ken has that terry doesn't is a stable marriage. 😄

~The Invincible Fan of Invincible Terry Bogard, The Invincible Sado-sama

Originally posted by Sado22
well he probably lost to Hugo as well in case you're wondering
😆This again mane? Pure speculation until you bring some proof. Until you have it please kill that noise. Ain't Oro the guy who eliminated Ryu?
Originally posted by Sado22
ahem. gouki is same tier as SF2 bison. SHIN akuma is godtier. however, prior to SF3, Akuma's strongest move was the shugoukusatsu, right? hence if he was to pull of a shungoukusatsu it means that he was being shinakuma and not regular akuma since sgs is his STRONGEST. hence, shin akuma killed SF2 Bison.
😆What kind of logic is that?
Originally posted by Sado22
-Terry beat Geese in FF1 at the age of 20. Barely or not is up to assumption.
-Terry beat Nightmare Geese by really really kicking the shit out of him to the point where N.Geese couldn't even do raging storm. Nightmare Geese is godtier. Name me one godtier or hightier character that Ryu has ever beaten? Please, i beg you.
🙂 I've asked you before where this Godtier stuff came from. I doubt Geese was ever Godtier. I asked you how you think N.Geese would have fared against one such as Akuma. I don't remember you answering that either. Maybe I missed it. If Geese was Godtier(doubtful), than that just makes the jobbing seem worse. Again, what do you call it when a Godtier character loses to one that's not Godtier? Why did they take the coolest boss ever and make him a jobber?? If Terry fought the level of competition Ryu or Ken has, he'd likely have a much worse record. Everyone that's beaten them would smoke Terry as well. Ryu alone puts Ken's competition far above Terry's. Besides KOF, Terry's always been the big fish in a very small pond. Seriously though who has this guy beaten that ain't a jobber like Geese🙁 or a flat out weakling like Andy? As for Terry being faster gamewise, that's only w/a few of his specials if I remember right. None of them were too fast to be avoided or blocked and they leave him pretty wide open afterward. As far as the games that they've been in together, what tiers are they in? I think Ryu and Ken are higher than Terry 'cause I hardly ever see people play w/Terry, but I'm not 100% sure. Ryu & Ken's Dragon punches still own any special tech Terry has. Try it. DP knocks Terry right out of what ever he's trying. Even Rising "tacoo".

If you're not from the U.S. you may have to go to Japan or Hong Kong to get those books. I was hoping Oly would know somebody w/scans.

BTW are there any youtube vids that feature Terry doing "Rising beat"?

Originally posted by Remulous
the fact is the people Ryu lost to, Terry can't beat either.If Terry draws with Ken then how does he beat Ryu? Looks to me like you guys are picking Terry becuase you like him more.
Truth. Heart>>>>>>>>>>>everything w/Terry I guess.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Truth. Heart>>>>>>>>>>>everything w/Terry I guess.
😆

Originally posted by Sado22
well he probably lost to Hugo as well in case you're wondering. in FFSW, Kyle beat down Hugo's @$$ and Kyle aint even a real pro.
Ryu did not lose to Hugo, he lost to Oro, some one who can mop the floor with Terry with 1 hand behind his back. FF Street wise may not even be canon.

Originally posted by Sado22
ahem. gouki is same tier as SF2 bison. SHIN akuma is godtier. however, prior to SF3, Akuma's strongest move was the shugoukusatsu, right? hence if he was to pull of a shungoukusatsu it means that he was being shinakuma and not regular akuma since sgs is his STRONGEST. hence, shin akuma killed SF2 Bison.
secondly, 3rd strike Ryu is STILL 3rd level tier. not high tier or god tier. what part of that don't you understand?
Dude are you sure you are talking about SF? Gouki doesn't have to be Shin to do the Shungokusatsu. 3rd Strike Ryu is stronger than any normal Gouki before SF3. 3rd Strike Ryu is stronger than SF2 Bison but Terry is not.

Originally posted by Sado22
i know...i'm just bringing to your attention that ken isn't "weaker" to the point that he is no match to Ryu. that's all.
There was no need to even post that, I'm fully aware of that information.

Originally posted by Sado22
i seriously doubt it. give me a few days, i'll check it on tiamat's faq....too lazy right now. 🙂
So that's why many of your facts are so f**ked up...your useing Tiamat, word for word.

Originally posted by Sado22
you've seen that movie? 😆
cool...its only after that did i know that a soup kitchen is every martial artist's holy ground. 😆.
😆 You mean you did't know? You should try going some time it's great! 😂

Originally posted by Sado22
Also if like terry the most however i don't make him beat those i don't see him beating. i said flat out he'd lose to even regular akuma. its just that as opposed to Ryu, Terry HAS beaten godtiers. Ryu never has. Heck, Ryu has never even beaten hightiers. Sagat bitched him bad on two occassions...once even though he was Psycho Ryu which is equivalent of Evil Ryu.

You still don't get it Every one Ryu has lost to will beat the shit out of Terry, every one Terry has fought Ryu can beat. If Terry fought Gouki he would've died, did Ryu...no. Can Terry lift even a single boulder, no, Ryu lifted 2 stacked atop each other with a guy on top. Can Terry dodge bullets...no, Ryu can. Does Terry's attacks nearly destroy buildings...no, Ryu can. Can Terry beat Sagat even with a free cheap shot...no, Ryu did. Has Terry seriously maimed any one with a single attack... no, Ryu has. Can Terry blow holes through people or dismember them with a single attacks no....Ryu has. Terry has never beat or fought any one God Tier, in fact their is no one in Fatal Fury who is God Tier, not even Geese. Now has Ryu fough God Tier opponents...yes...did he survive, yes.

Originally posted by Sado22

~The Invincible Fan of Invincible Terry Bogard, The Invincible Sado-sama
No offense my friend but this explains it all.

Wow the results of Pandora's box has a huge stench and as I can see has now started to spread.

Terry did in fact defeat Geese not by luck or cheap shot same thing with Krauser and everyone else that he has gone up against.

"No offense my friend but this explains it all."

The way your name use to be Murderous Ryu right?

"Looks to me like you guys are picking Terry becuase you like him more."

I guess the same thing can be said with Ryu.

I wonder judging from the previous post is Ryu a human or a character from DBZ. ...blow holes through people..........okay.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Wow the results of Pandora's box has a huge stench and as I can see has now started to spread.

Terry did in fact defeat Geese not by luck or cheap shot same thing with Krauser and everyone else that he has gone up against.

"No offense my friend but this explains it all."

The way your name use to be Murderous Ryu right?

Geese nor Krauser are as strong as Sagat, Bison, or Oro or Gouki. Also Is my name MURDEROUS RYU now, nope. I've evolved past that stage. How can you talk, your avatar is fricken Terry Bogard AND your a fatal fury maniac. Also your name is P-Geyser, I guess that P doesn't stand for Power.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
"Looks to me like you guys are picking Terry becuase you like him more."

I guess the same thing can be said with Ryu.

Nope, Ive said why I think Ryu will win.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I wonder judging from the previous post is Ryu a human or a character from DBZ. ...blow holes through people..........okay.
😆 You must have been thinking that I know Those feats are nothing to the likes of DBZ they can topple friggen planets for God sakes. Ryu blew a hole through a cyborg in the Alpha movie and he splattered Bison in Alpha 3 with his ShoRyuKen.

you again? didn't we go through all this?
okay you want another round...get ready?
Sado: Hey come on come on!
Brainy: you cannot escape you're own death.
🙂

This again mane? Pure speculation until you bring some proof. Until you have it please kill that noise. Ain't Oro the guy who eliminated Ryu?

emperor and i agreed at this one post-nukewar. Tiamat said that ryu PROBABLY faced Hugo in SF3 but he could have very well faced him during SF33rdstrike since that time Ryu was in US. Tiamat also said that Ryu POSSIBLY beat him but he could have lost too. So yeah...THIS again.

What kind of logic is that?

i think it makes sense. what part of it doesn't make sense?
lot better than "terry sucks as a fighter cuz he never lost". or how about "sado just proved factually that terry has more experience, power, speed, career, better callibre opponents etc. but Ryu is still better because i'm too stubborn to change my opinion"😮‍💨
i'll take on the next argument point by point so it gets through your head.
Every one Ryu has lost to will beat the shit out of Terry

Hugo would never beat Terry.
Ken would NEVER beat Terry. and that huge post above tells you why.
Akuma would.
Oro would.
Sagat wouldn't...unless you say Sagat would beat Krauser, Geese etc.
and?

every one Terry has fought Ryu can beat.

Ryu can beat Nightmare Geese? Ryu couldn't beat a high tier? please prove to me how in the world a person who can't beat NONgodtier would beat hightier? i really really like to know briany. you're not making any sense what so ever. Ryu couldn't beat Sagat even though he became psycho Ryu which is stronger version of him.
If Terry fought Gouki he would've died, did Ryu...no.

prove it! i dare you to prove that terry would die against Akuma? prove that someone who has outlasted godtiers before cannot do better than someone who can't even outlast a high tier. PROVE IT NOW!
Can Terry lift even a single boulder, no, Ryu lifted 2 stacked atop each other with a guy on top.

err...Terry doesn't train like ryu. also if ryu can, imo, terry can.
Can Terry dodge bullets...no

ryu cannot dodge bullets. don't use the anime to support yourself.
an.
Does Terry's attacks nearly destroy buildings...no

anime again.
Can Terry beat Sagat even with a free cheap shot

ryu has NEVEr beaten Fagat. so get your facts straight.
Has Terry seriously maimed any one with a single attack. Can Terry blow holes through people or dismember m with a single attacks no....Ryu has. Terry has never beat or fought any one God Tier, in fact their is no one in Fatal Fury who is God Tier, not even Geese. Now has Ryu fough God Tier opponents...yes...did he survive, yes.

stop using anime ot back you up. if you want anime...fine TERRY BEAT A F-UCKING GOD! THE GOD OF WAR! BEAT THAT. 😮‍💨
Terry has beaten godtiers.....try Nightmare Geese.

Later.
~The Invincible Sado-sama

P.S.
*brainy falls off tall building after a severe beating and a triple powergeyser by Sado. Sado runs over to save his @$$.
Sado: BRAINYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Brainy: goodbye.*falls to his death*
*Sado raises brainy son*
🙂
i'll deal with you later remulus