Ryu vs Terry Bogard

Alrighty then... lets see....

Although the Anime stories are not cannon by and of themselves, Capcom did say that, if Street Fighter was a cartoon, then that is how they would fight... There, thats Capcom endorsement for the feats as they are.

Oh, and regular Akuma does do the Shun Goku Satsu, reguardless of whatever poofy logic you've seen fanboys use, don't stoop to a lower level just to make a point Sado...

The Hugo and ken defeating terry arghuments are debatable by themselves, we don't know if they can beat him or not.

Ryu defeating Nightmare geese is also debatable, since it was his Shoryuken that killed SFGA3 Bison, and ryu did survive a solo encounter with Akuma.

Terry losing to Akuma almost garuntees his death, Akuma won't hold back against terry, he has no reason to.

IYO if ryu can do something, terry can to? well then the reverse should also apply...

[i]Originally posted by Remulous
[B]Geese nor Krauser are as strong as Sagat, Bison, or Oro or Gouki. Also Is my name MURDEROUS RYU now, nope. I've evolved past that stage. How can you talk, your avatar is fricken Terry Bogard AND your a fatal fury maniac. Also your name is P-Geyser, I guess that P doesn't stand for Power.

I am a Terry fan YES and MY NAME IS P-GEYSER. I am not denying that and I CAN TALK. At least I am not telling someone THEIR NAME EXPLAINS IT ALL.

[i]Originally posted by Remulous
Nope, Ive said why I think Ryu will win.

You seem to like Ryu ALOT mane.

[i]Originally posted by Remulous
😆 You must have been thinking that I know Those feats are nothing to the likes of DBZ they can topple friggen planets for God sakes. Ryu blew a hole through a cyborg in the Alpha movie and he splattered Bison in Alpha 3 with his ShoRyuKen

Sounds an awful lot like DBZ to me. Though if Ryu is so godfully powerful in the "alpha movie" I wonder why they did not do the same thing with him in the Anime Movie(which I prefer).

Although the Anime stories are not cannon by and of themselves, Capcom did say that, if Street Fighter was a cartoon, then that is how they would fight... There, thats Capcom endorsement for the feats as they are.

Oh, and regular Akuma does do the Shun Goku Satsu, reguardless of whatever poofy logic you've seen fanboys use, don't stoop to a lower level just to make a point Sado.

The Hugo and ken defeating terry arghuments are debatable by themselves, we don't know if they can beat him or not.

Ryu defeating Nightmare geese is also debatable, since it was his Shoryuken that killed SFGA3 Bison, and ryu did survive a solo encounter with Akuma.

Terry losing to Akuma almost garuntees his death, Akuma won't hold back against terry, he has no reason to.

IYO if ryu can do something, terry can to? well then the reverse should also apply...

Terry has:
-beaten godtiers
-higher tiers
-lower tiers
-same tiers

terry is faster, more experienced, possibly more stronger, more seasoned and has a better record than ryu. prove me wrong in this light. keep your whims out of it....all three of you.

Geese nor Krauser are as strong as Sagat, Bison, or Oro or Gouki. Also Is my name MURDEROUS RYU now, nope. I've evolved past that stage. How can you talk, your avatar is fricken Terry Bogard AND your a fatal fury maniac. Also your name is P-Geyser, I guess that P doesn't stand for Power.

Ryu did not lose to Hugo, he lost to Oro, some one who can mop the floor with Terry with 1 hand behind his back. FF Street wise may not even be canon.

Dude are you sure you are talking about SF? Gouki doesn't have to be Shin to do the Shungokusatsu. 3rd Strike Ryu is stronger than any normal Gouki before SF3. 3rd Strike Ryu is stronger than SF2 Bison but Terry is not.

So that's why many of your facts are so f**ked up...your useing Tiamat, word for word.

No offense my friend but this explains it all.

~The Invincible Sado-sama
P.S
remulus: perhaps you may find some potential flames in my post but let me just apologize regardless. darkstorm just peeved me off in his reply.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I am a Terry fan YES and MY NAME IS P-GEYSER. I am not denying that and I CAN TALK. At least I am not telling someone THEIR NAME EXPLAINS IT ALL.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
You seem to like Ryu ALOT mane.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Sounds an awful lot like DBZ to me .

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Though if Ryu is so godfully powerful in the "alpha movie" I wonder why they did not do the same thing with him in the Anime Movie(which I prefer). .

Originally posted by Sado22
remulus....when did you decide who is stronger and who isn't since you have NO facts nor since the time this thread started have you brought forth any facts or reason. stop with the whims.
Nightmare geese is godtier. Sagat is not.
Krauser is godtier in FF time line. Sagat is not.
do the damn math.
Bison is also higher in SF2...not godtier. hence it becomes arguable who is stronger and who isn't.
Oro and gouki yeah i too would say they are stronger.

Originally posted by Sado22
Hugo probably did beat ryu in SF3. tiamat said probably but also mentioned that they could have also fought in SF3 3rd strike.
FFSW may not be canon but FF is isn't it? Hugo is just a regular punk in that thing.

Originally posted by Sado22
again
SF3 Ryu is NOT GODTIER. SF3 Ryu is STILL 3rd highest tier. Gouki was godtier in SFA.
SF2 Bison is 2nd highest tier. Ryu is third highest tier.
don't go making assumptionswithout facts remulus.

Originally posted by Sado22
so now you're also gonna decide that tiamat is not reliable?
my facts are ****ed up?
coming from someone who doesn't know that SF3 ryu isn't godtier. please.
also tiamat's reliable. emperor also uses him....heck his faq is the most reliable faq out there. Darkstorm will also benefit if he actually uses that faq.

Please! May no one take any offense in my this post!

👆 👆 👆 👆

Originally posted by Sado22
look. you care to explain to me this:
Capcom of Japan said that hadouken feels like being hit by a well landed kick. this is on Tiamat's faq and hence canon fact.
PLEASE explain how a well landed kick can disintegrate people.

Tiamats FAQ is now the be all and end all od Canon facts? please Sado... Tiamats FAQ is merely Tiamat's oppinions of Street fighter, I am allowed to disrepute it, especially when I have Street Fighter Eternal directly quashing that statement of his.

Originally posted by Sado22
okay i'm getting a little irritated here.
its an assumption on my part.
so tell me: how do YOU know that akuma wasn't shinakuma when he killed Bison? wanna explain.
shungoukusatsu is his strongest move till that point since he hadn't perfected kongoukonguretsuzan til then. so one is given to assume that he is at full potential...hence Shin Akuma. the same way he was Shinakuma while doing the kongoukongoretsuzan in SF3 3rd strike. shinakuma is akuma not holding himself back.
so two words: shut up!

Because oficially, Shin Akuma is Akuma... there was no destinction bitween the two forms up until Capcom vs SNK 2 and SF3 2nd Impact, well and truly after SF2... And lets not forget the one truly relevant fact... Akuma was using the Demon during his Alpha days... When he killed Bison, there was no color change, no increased powers, no aura, no different symbol, no nothing... who's more wrong in their assumption?

Oh, one more thing... you'd better chill the hell out Sado, I didn't open this can of worms, and I was perfectly willing to leave this thread be had it mot been for some arguments I had seen i thought wrong, if this irritates you, then you'd better pack up these forums.

Originally posted by Sado22
i said it before dsz and i'll say it again: GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.
the explosives placed around shadowloo base by guile, chunli and charlie is what killed bison in SFA3. so no.

Where's the proof of this? reffering to Tiamat's version of whathappened again?

Originally posted by Sado22
and yet ryu survived? don't contradict yourself.

Where's the contradiction? Akuma had a reason to hold back on Ryu, he would have no such reason to hold off against Terry, and anyone Akuma does not hold back on, AND defeats gets killed. By your own admission, terry would lose to Akuma, therefore Terry dies. where's the contradiction?

Originally posted by Sado22
no. heard the expression "converse does not apply".
irrespective:
-ryu has not beaten Sagat YET
-Ryu lost to Ken
-ryu has beaten no one on a higher teir than himself.

Terry has:
-beaten godtiers
-higher tiers
-lower tiers
-same tiers

terry is faster, more experienced, possibly more stronger, more seasoned and has a better record than ryu. prove me wrong in this light. keep your whims out of it....all three of you.

- Ryu defeated Akuma
- Ryu defeated Bison (IMO: despite Tiamat)
- Ryu defeated Sagat, reguardless of what you think is a defeat, the records will always show Ryu winning that battle, Sagat was lucky not to get cut in two.

Now, as for W/L records, does it really frigging matter? it's not the people you've beaten before, it's ho you do against the current opponent, I don't give a shit if Terry was kicking ass for 30 years before Ryu, I'd say it's a draw.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
QUOTE=8193992]Originally posted by Sado22
[B]

Tiamats FAQ is now the be all and end all od Canon facts? please Sado... Tiamats FAQ is merely Tiamat's oppinions of Street fighter, I am allowed to disrepute it, especially when I have Street Fighter Eternal directly quashing that statement of his.

[i]Originally posted by Remulous
No you can't. I didn't mean HIS NAME EXPLAINS IT ALL I was referring to this: "Invincible Terry Bogard"which Sado clearly stated. Terry is not Invincible, nor is Ryu.

Well that's at least one thing we can agree on. I have stated many times that Terry has his ups and downs and yes he is not invincible...to think that would be ludacris.

[i]Originally posted by Remulous
Dude, I can say the EXACT same thing for you.

I like Terry alot and yes I said it...and?

[i]Originally posted by Remulous
That's to you, I see DBZ doing far more than than blowing holes through cyborgs, try blowing holes through planets.

DBZ is the king of overpowered but hearing of Ryu doing all of this makes me think of him not even human 😕

[QUOTE=8197211][i]Originally posted by Remulous
Ryu godly? Who said that? You are just too sensitive about Terry and blowing things way out of proportion. They couldn't do the same things in both movies. The movies are made by a completely different teams in completely different times by creators of 2 completely different art styles.

You would be suprised on the many Ryu fans that think he can't lose ever... and I am not blowing anything out of proportion as you so like to put it. I saw a little of the alpha movie but still I prefer The Anime movie Ryu but that's just me.

Originally posted by Remulous
Thank God some one realizes that Tiamat is not the master of SF.(no offense to him and his research)

Kind of like Kaliu Lantis and his research on KOF. He puts Kyo on a pedestal.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Kind of like Kaliu Lantis and his research on KOF. He puts Kyo on a pedestal.

I ahve said since thos whole thing started early last year, that Terry would draw with Ryu.

And I never said that Ryu was invincible, far from it, Sagat owned him in Alpha 2, Ken as well. there are quite a few people in the SNK games like FF, AOF, KOF. Terry just happenes to be one of the best matches against Ryu, hence why I say it's a draw.

Oh, and one more thing, Psycho Ryu does not equal Evil Ryu, I've been over that before in another thread somewhere... I swear it... 🙁

Wait, when did you decide who is stronger and who isn't? Me not presented any facts? You are the one who hasn't presented any facts. You are the one going off of whims. No one in FF is god tier, neither can destroy mountains, battle ships, be completely incinerated and come back, fight one of the games strongest character with 1 hand behind his back or take on nearly the hole games cast at once. Geese nor Kruaser are god tier, saying that means that Terry is god tier seeing how he beat them single handedly.

regarding the facts i had this huge post at the beginning of this thread which was based on facts regarding terry. the experience, speed and even the overall career.
according the kailu lantis or whoever wrote the FF storyline FAQ on gamefaq, Geese was already as powerful as a demon when he was 26 (during art of fighting2). even his AoF2 profile states him as more powerful than a demon. FF takes place around 15 years later. obviously geese has only gotten stronger in these days. however, I am NOT saying that he is godtier...just damn powerful (think SF2 bison who isn't godtier). However, in FFRB, Geese has the power of the immortal scrolls of immortality. on the same FAQ and another one (and even on wiki if that means anything) they all agree that Geese had unlocked ALL ITS POWER accept the last bit which would grant him immortality. Nightmare Geese IS the Geese with the power of the scrolls. Again on the FAQs agree on this. the only thing was he didn't get the immortality part because Terry arrived in the nick of time. Nightmare Geese is godtier because he has the full power of the scrolls. jsut like the Jin Twins who had the power of the scrolls. They were legimate godtiers in the game...read the FF3 storyline. Geese stole the scrolls from them and unlocked its power making it his own. Hence godtier. the only reason terry beat him was because Terry himself went berserk. Read those faqs. its all there. Terry went beserker...hence unleashing his full potential or killer intent or whatever you wanna call it. that is the sole reason terry is raising rock...its out of guilt.
As for Krauser, the prologue to FF2 (good luck finding it though) clearly states Krauser to be godlike in power. FF2 profile.
Jin Twins, were, like i already said divine and godtiers due to the scrolls of immortality. FF3 profiles.
as for godtiers losing...i don't know why you, dsz and bc have so much problem understanding this part: its a game. its not supposed to be perfectly logical. aside from SF, ALL OTHER GAMES have people beating godtiers. Devil is godtier in T2 yet was defeated by Hachi. ogre is another godtier but was defeated by Jin. Jinpachi YET another godtier...and possibly lost to either Jin/kaz/hachi. WereKiamera was godtier...no lterally a god but was defeated by Yugo in BR1. Orochi was a GOD but was defeated by Kyo and Iori. see what i mean?
People in FF/AoF/KoF don't sink ships etc because the bosses change with every game which means not enough development for them. Orochi was only seen in one game. rugal in 2. Geonitz in one. KRauser in one. Geese in three (and was not boss in one of them). also none of the SNK games have the gazillion remakes like SF does. however, in their FAQs they simply say they are godtiers. Krauser was godtier in FF2. N.Geese was godtier in FFRB. Orochi is a god. the only show of power that was mentioned was Geonitz with enough power to wreck the whole damn stadium with a mere glimpse of his power. he wasn't even serious when he did that. it was a mere show of his power. and yet Geonitz was a mere messenger of Orochi. imagine what power Orochi had. he had the power to destroy the whole planet.
Who is sealed off in SF? Who can destroy the whole planet? akuma could only crack the ayres rock with his STRONGEST move.
if the prologue or profile of a character says "he/she is godtier" then what's the argument? you understand what i'm saying?

No if Hugo beat Ryu how in the hell did he fight Oro in the same tournament? It's obvious to see you don't know much about Final Fight's storyline becuase if you did you would know that Hugo is no push over and SF3 takes place long after Final Fight, plenty of time for Hugo to train and become even stronger. Once again Tiamat is not 100% accurate, stop relying on his every word.

- Ryu defeated Akuma

- Ryu defeated Bison (IMO: despite Tiamat)

- Ryu defeated Sagat, reguardless of what you think is a defeat, the records will always show Ryu winning that battle, Sagat was lucky not to get cut in two.

~The Invincible Sado-sama
P.S. where do you get SF eternal? also is it by capcom of Japan or US?

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Sounds an awful lot like DBZ to me.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
I wonder why they did not do the same thing with him in the Anime Movie(which I prefer).

Originally posted by Remulous
Ryu did not lose to Hugo, he lost to Oro, some one who can mop the floor with Terry with 1 hand behind his back.

Originally posted by Sado22
you again? didn't we go through all this?
okay you want another round...get ready?
Sado: Hey come on come on!
Brainy: you cannot escape you're own death.
🙂

emperor and i agreed at this one post-nukewar. Tiamat said that ryu PROBABLY faced Hugo in SF3 but he could have very well faced him during SF33rdstrike since that time Ryu was in US. Tiamat also said that Ryu POSSIBLY beat him but he could have lost too. So yeah...THIS again.

Originally posted by Sado22
i think it makes sense. what part of it doesn't make sense?
lot better than "terry sucks as a fighter cuz he never lost".

Originally posted by Sado22
& or how about "sado just proved factually that terry has more experience, power, speed, career, better callibre opponents etc. but Ryu is still better because i'm too stubborn to change my opinion"😮‍💨
i'll take on the next argument point by point so it gets through your head.

Originally posted by Sado22
P.S.
*brainy falls off tall building after a severe beating and a triple powergeyser by Sado. Sado runs over to save his @$$.
Sado: BRAINYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Brainy: goodbye.*falls to his death*
*Sado raises brainy son*
🙂
i'll deal with you later remulus

P.S. Sado issues what what would normally be a severe beating. Brainchild(true godtier🙂) is barely affected. Sado goes for a dunk type move, brainchild counters like Geese, yanks him out of the air slams Sado on his head, breaking his neck.

Brainchild😮oops! *Looks @ his watch & begins to walk away.*
Sado(On ground, unable to move but showing his amazing heart😆 ):Get back here. We're not done yet!
BC: Like hell we aren't. Gargoyles comes on in 5 minutes & it's cold as f**k out here. Lucky I don't roll you off the ledge. Come back when you're ready mane. *Folds Gi top back up & goes back inside Brainchild Tower*
Sado:You Bastard!! How the f**k am I supposed to get down from here?!!!!

Use your heart...!

hysterical Good one. I should have put that in.

Originally posted by Sado22

regarding the facts i had this huge post at the beginning of this thread which was based on facts regarding terry. the experience, speed and even the overall career.
according the kailu lantis or whoever wrote the FF storyline FAQ on gamefaq, Geese was already as powerful as a demon when he was 26 (during art of fighting2). even his AoF2 profile states him as more powerful than a demon. FF takes place around 15 years later. obviously geese has only gotten stronger in these days. however, I am NOT saying that he is godtier...just damn powerful (think SF2 bison who isn't godtier). However, in FFRB, Geese has the power of the immortal scrolls of immortality. on the same FAQ and another one (and even on wiki if that means anything) they all agree that Geese had unlocked ALL ITS POWER accept the last bit which would grant him immortality. Nightmare Geese IS the Geese with the power of the scrolls. Again on the FAQs agree on this. the only thing was he didn't get the immortality part because Terry arrived in the nick of time. Nightmare Geese is godtier because he has the full power of the scrolls. jsut like the Jin Twins who had the power of the scrolls. They were legimate godtiers in the game...read the FF3 storyline. Geese stole the scrolls from them and unlocked its power making it his own. Hence godtier. the only reason terry beat him was because Terry himself went berserk. Read those faqs. its all there. Terry went beserker...hence unleashing his full potential or killer intent or whatever you wanna call it. that is the sole reason terry is raising rock...its out of guilt.
As for Krauser, the prologue to FF2 (good luck finding it though) clearly states Krauser to be godlike in power. FF2 profile.
Jin Twins, were, like i already said divine and godtiers due to the scrolls of immortality. FF3 profiles.
as for godtiers losing...i don't know why you, dsz and bc have so much problem understanding this part: its a game. its not supposed to be perfectly logical. aside from SF, ALL OTHER GAMES have people beating godtiers. Devil is godtier in T2 yet was defeated by Hachi. ogre is another godtier but was defeated by Jin. Jinpachi YET another godtier...and possibly lost to either Jin/kaz/hachi. WereKiamera was godtier...no lterally a god but was defeated by Yugo in BR1. Orochi was a GOD but was defeated by Kyo and Iori. see what i mean?
People in FF/AoF/KoF don't sink ships etc because the bosses change with every game which means not enough development for them. Orochi was only seen in one game. rugal in 2. Geonitz in one. KRauser in one. Geese in three (and was not boss in one of them). also none of the SNK games have the gazillion remakes like SF does. however, in their FAQs they simply say they are godtiers. Krauser was godtier in FF2. N.Geese was godtier in FFRB. Orochi is a god. the only show of power that was mentioned was Geonitz with enough power to wreck the whole damn stadium with a mere glimpse of his power. he wasn't even serious when he did that. it was a mere show of his power. and yet Geonitz was a mere messenger of Orochi. imagine what power Orochi had. he had the power to destroy the whole planet.
Who is sealed off in SF? Who can destroy the whole planet? akuma could only crack the ayres rock with his STRONGEST move.
if the prologue or profile of a character says "he/she is godtier" then what's the argument? you understand what i'm saying?

i'm not saying he is a pushover. but he was a regular thug in that game. he wasn't even a boss character, was he?

Originally posted by P-Geyser
You would be suprised on the many Ryu fans that think he can't lose ever... and I am not blowing anything out of proportion as you so like to put it. I saw a little of the alpha movie but still I prefer The Anime movie Ryu but that's just me

Originally posted by Superboy Prime and brainchild81
Use your heart...!

Good one. I should have put that in.

[i]Originally posted by brainchild81
How? Planets >>>>Robots mane

The parts on dodging bullets mane.

[QUOTE=8200949][i]Originally posted by brainchild81
Me too. We agree yet again. Best Anime based on a game I've ever seen.

I am scared....if this agreeing keeps up...who knows what might happen... 😕 😱

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
I ahve said since thos whole thing started early last year, that Terry would draw with Ryu.

And I never said that Ryu was invincible, far from it, Sagat owned him in Alpha 2, Ken as well. there are quite a few people in the SNK games like FF, AOF, KOF. Terry just happenes to be one of the best matches against Ryu, hence why I say it's a draw.

Oh, and one more thing, Psycho Ryu does not equal Evil Ryu, I've been over that before in another thread somewhere... I swear it... 🙁

I am starting to agree to with you.

Originally posted by Superboy Prime
Use your heart...!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.............no.

🙂 Come on now. You know that was funny.

Originally posted by Sado22
please...

What? a win is a win, reguardless of how you view them.

Originally posted by Sado22
i don't care about "your opinion".

Then don't ever bother replyion or posting in a debating forum ever again, you defend tiamat's oppinion, I formulate my own, so unless official proof backs your arguments...

Originally posted by Sado22
if its not fair then its not a REAL defeat. that is the point. what would've happened if ryu didn't give in to the dark hadou? he was already on his way to unconsciousness. he couldn't evne stand.

Sagat shouldn't have lowered his guard while the fight was still going, a bit like that kid getting kicked in the head while bowing in the TMNT movie... only a fool'd lower his head when the match is still going.

Originally posted by Sado22
~The Invincible Sado-sama
P.S. where do you get SF eternal? also is it by capcom of Japan or US?

The interviews from the book where with the SF design team, all the stuff in there is official, and is confirmed by Cap of Japan. I got it from an international shop in Melbourne.

OK guys I think we might just need to call it a tie.