Ryu vs Terry Bogard

Good post

Originally posted by Sado22
gotta disagree there emp.
Terry had the time of his life fighting all the bosses.
against Grant he was wounded to the point that he couldn't even compete. against Krauser he barely got out alive, since KRauser did two kaiser waves at him and the second one pushing him to the point that he performed the power geyser....something he had never done before.
With Nightmare Geese he was driven to the edge of his sanity.
how does that seem "plowing through"?

also i'm sick of hearing crap like "Terry hogs attention". Terry didn't steal the spotlight from Rock...unlike ryu who not only defeats Alex but does it perfect. of course people will say a ton of things like "Oh, Alex is a rookie etc etc etc". the fact of the matter is, he lost perfect to Ryu only to make Ryu look good. later on, Ryu continuously defeats Sean with one move (hadouken) in Ken's ending. isn't that hogging attention? its a lot worse than what Terry does from any standard.

~The Invincible Sado-sama

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Did I say that there was anything wrong with that?...I juust pointed out that it was you who made the comment.

Yugo is cool in his own game but he sux compared to Terry. Just because he's a were wolf doesn't mean he's automatically gonna stomp humans. Especially strong opponents like Terry.

Originally posted by Remulous
Just makin sure buddy.

Yugo is cool in his own game but he sux compared to Terry. Just because he's a were wolf doesn't mean he's automatically gonna stomp humans. Especially strong opponents like Terry.

Yeah man believe me I was not trying to insult you.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Because terry seems to plow through bosses like a lawn mower.

Though Kyo and Iori dont?

I disagree, terry has never lost a boss fight. Snk has him defeat every boss he encounters, He even beat yamakazi!

oh and by the way, emp, i posted that comment cuz you were saying "he ploughs through" the opponents and its the ploughing through that i have a problem with. you made it seem like he breezed through them which is definitely not the case as i mentioned.

Like I said many times, snk follows the "Hero always wins" routine.And to me that is a testament of jobiing, you may not see it that way and I respect your opinion but, I'm convinced he's jobbing

Doesn't matter to me, alex and sean are nothing like Geese, Yamakazi,Kaiser,Grant and whatever boss terry faces. I don't see what sense it would make for ryu to lose to alex despite having so much experience at the time.I don't understand saod, you rag on ryu for losing and then turn around and rag on him for winning against weak fighters?

also i don't have a problem with Ryu winning....the guy could use it for a change since that's what i've been talking about since i got here. i also don't have a problem with him beating Alex as clearly they are in different leagues. Yet, i also don't expect him to trample over the NEW HERO of a series. that's just retarded. at least SNK pays respect to both heroes, new and old. Kyo never wakled right over Terry, Terry never walked right over K' etc etc.
you see what i mean?

Yet, when terry beats four bosses, and never loses no problem?

~The Invincible Sado-sama

Originally posted by Sado22
actually that was my bad there about Yamazaki. i am only guessing this since Yamazaki was in FFRB and was a participant in the tourny but it was Terry who was the finalist and since they already have a lot of beef for each other and zaki is one of the top tiers it only makes sense that they faced in the tournament. regardless, it's only my opinion. in FF3 Zaki was pounding the whole cast.
SNK also seems pro-hero which to me only makes sense....why have a hero lose to a boss? or worse let the boss be beaten on purpose?

I disagree, it seems that in FF the Same hero always jobbs bosses, and that's terry. I mean I understand that the boss will lose but tdoes he have to in the fashion he does. Terry works in a team, yet, everytime he ends up in a boss fight his team is ko'ed while he solo's the boss.

Originally posted by Sado22

hey i was pretty upset when i found out that Ryu was not the "hero" of SF3. i don't want alex to win against Ryu. I'm just pointing out that they people blame Terry for hogging away attention, no one seems to remember how Ryu beat the new hero of the series perfect.

But, ryu beating alex is not stealing the spot light. Ryu is not even in the main plot anymore. Terry on the otherhand hogged the spot light in garou if you asked me, besides beating the bosses (What's new) he's plot is still active while ryu isn't. Ryu doesn't meet gill let alone fight him, hell he wasn't even supposed to be in the game.
I bet if terry beat rock with a perfect, it would be okay. Like I said , I respect your opinion but, in FF terry hogs the spotlight and jobbs.

Originally posted by Sado22

THAT is what i pointing out. they could have had a decent fight and have Alex lose without taking away too much from both of them. Yet, they chose to make him lose PERFECT...and that too right after winning the tourny cuz of blatant good luck, (Oro not showing up, Gill letting him win, Ken and ryu being eliminated leaving pretty much scrappy competition to deal with). and then ryu goes on to defeat Sean in one move for the umpteenth time in a row.

Sean Matsuda and Alex suck though. . .

Originally posted by Sado22

at least terry didn't step on Rock's shoes. at least he didnt' go around defeating the new cast perfect. at least he doesn't hog away attention from Kyo/Iori/K'. evne in the cross overs, Terry isn't leading the team either. Who is leading the Capcom team in almost every company crossover?

What are you talking about, terry beat the bosses in mark of garou while ryu didn't touch any of the bosses. So, how is ryu hogging anything, by beating alex with a perfect and ryu was't even supposed to be in strreet fighter 3 nor is he in the main plot. And ryu hasn't lead a cross over since Marvel Superheroe's VS Street Fighter.

Originally posted by Sado22

so whose stealing the spotlight now. terry holds his own against people but doesn't hog away attention. if anyone hogs away attention its Ryu.

I disagree, but your entitled to your opinion. Terry beating every boss by himself is hogging the spot light.

Originally posted by Sado22

also i don't have a problem with Ryu winning....the guy could use it for a change since that's what i've been talking about since i got here. i also don't have a problem with him beating Alex as clearly they are in different leagues. Yet, i also don't expect him to trample over the NEW HERO of a series. that's just retarded. at least SNK pays respect to both heroes, new and old.[/B]

One must earn respect, alex is a weak fighter and besides capcom gave him a win against balrog so you can't really say capcom let the old characters trample him. If alex beat ryu, that would be retarded since ryu is a very seasoned fighter and alex is just getting into Street Fighting in my personal opinion.

Originally posted by Sado22

Kyo never wakled right over Terry, Terry never walked right over K' etc etc.
you see what i mean?

I see what you mean, but I disagree and snk doesn't really care about there old hero's they just don't want fans to argue over who is better. Snk listens to there fans too much, and tat's why they went bankrupt. 🙁

Originally posted by Sado22
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i like heroes who win. that's the point of a "hero" as far as i go. besides i don't see the point of being "realistic" in a videogame that runs on bullshit like ki moves. kinda winds up being funny instead.

~The Invincible Sado-sama [/B]

Sorry , but I disagrree, in terms of plot the hero has to lose sometimes.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Though Kyo and Iori dont?

Truth

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Hmm...according to BC, the only bosses that seem to job, is when they fight Terry.

& All great fictional heroes have a loss on their record.

Originally posted by brainchild81

All great fictional heroes have a loss on their record.

I disgaree Emperor. For one thing Garou is Rock's story and Terry did not make it to Kain Rock did. Plus When the hell has Terry been in the spotlight....when?...since the last FF game(RB2) Terry no where in hell is hogging the spotlight. Plus how long has it been since Garou?...and who knows if even another Garou game will come out.

That role is for Kyo,Iori and other flame users that are there because as of now, KOF is the only fighting game playmore is pumping out and Terry NEVER hogs the spotlight or even shines a litte. As well in the KOF anime which takes place in Southtown, Terry is hardly shown...but Kyo and Iori get screen time.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Truth I see you love mentioning me😆 just kidding but hold on a sec blood bro. Me & Emp had a pretty long argument about this back when he said Kyo & Iori were just dudes w/flame powers. Even then I admitted that Kyo done jobbed cats b4 too. I was just making the case that Kyo didn't invent jobbing and that SNK had been doing that w/Terry long before Kyo showed up. You puttin' words in my mouth mane🙁

& All great fictional heroes have a loss on their record.

Though it's worse with Kyo, because he gets over and jobs characters that were well established. I am not trying to put words into your mouth.

I know mane. You just didn't notice when I spoke on Kyo's wins back then. I think it's worse w/Terry because he jobbed the coolest boss ever. & Terry shines FAR above all the others in FF games. He wasn't even stalemating back then. He just kicked everybody's ass all the time. @ least in KOF Kyo has people that rival him & can beat him. Who jobbed to Kyo that was well established?

It's worse because Terry jobbed Geese?...cmon now. It seems to be worse with Kyo, because it would seem that Kyo jobbed Terry in 94(Though I still disagree with that whole scenerio since SNK has never stated how Kyo won.)

It sounds like you wished in THE FIRST FF back in 91, Terry to automatically lose to Geese and that would make things okay 🙄

As I said before you make it seem it seemed as if Terry breezed past everyone which was not the case. Kim,Andy,Krauser,Geese and all of his other opponents have given Terry a run for his money. Though I bet if it were Iori then it would be okay I'm sure.

PG:
its realistic for heroes to lose to bosses. because videogames should be real, right? i mean come on now, i can do the hadouken, sink islands with my fists, train to the point that my teeth become sharp and my eyes glow red...oh and if abstain from sex for another 30 years and increase the reps of my pushups from 1000 to 10000000 i just might get a glowing sign on my back that is japanese for "over-rated".

~Sado

Originally posted by Sado22
PG:
its realistic for heroes to lose to bosses. because videogames should be real, right? i mean come on now, i can do the hadouken, sink islands with my fists, train to the point that my teeth become sharp and my eyes glow red...oh and if abstain from sex for another 30 years and increase the reps of my pushups from 1000 to 10000000 i just might get a glowing sign on my back that is japanese for "over-rated".

~Sado

😂 😂 😆 yeah

Originally posted by P-Geyser
It's worse because Terry jobbed Geese?...cmon now. It seems to be worse with Kyo, because it would seem that Kyo jobbed Terry in 94(Though I still disagree with that whole scenerio since SNK has never stated how Kyo won.)

Originally posted by P-Geyser
It sounds like you wished in THE FIRST FF back in 91, Terry to automatically lose to Geese and that would make things okay 🙄

Originally posted by P-Geyser
As I said before you make it seem it seemed as if Terry breezed past everyone which was not the case. Kim,Andy,Krauser,Geese and all of his other opponents have given Terry a run for his money.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Though I bet if it were Iori then it would be okay I'm sure.

Originally posted by Sado22
PG:
its realistic for heroes to lose to bosses. because videogames should be real, right? i mean come on now, i can do the hadouken, sink islands with my fists, train to the point that my teeth become sharp and my eyes glow red...oh and if abstain from sex for another 30 years and increase the reps of my pushups from 1000 to 10000000 i just might get a glowing sign on my back that is japanese for "over-rated".
~Sado

and yet KoF is more popular than SF in most countries around the world. US is the only main exception.

as far a realistic goes. the way i see it, not one thing about SF is realistic. not one thing.

also SNK specialized in fighting games while Capcom was more diverse. that's the reason behind SNK's failure cuz fighting games today are a niche.

~Sado

Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]🙂That's not even comparable to the stuff Terry did & you know it blood broseph. Terry still seems to have his undefeated record so it's not jobbing @ all. Probably more of that stupid time over SNK only shit. Name somebody established that Kyo actually jobbed please.

Let me ask you Blood Bro and I am going to use you words, if Terry is undefeated, how come the team never won the KOF tourneys....Terry had to lose someway along the lines whether it be loss or draw. As to the last comment I answered that Blood Bro.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Terry should have tried his best and still lost or @ least he and Andy could have beaten him together.

Then I can say Kyo should have lost to Rugal after trying his best and Goro and Beni should have been there as well.

Originally posted by brainchild81
😆 That's wonderful. They still all lost though. Giving Terry a run for their money obviously don't mean sh*t to SNK. Kim & Andy should have been standing w/Terry @ the end of the 'Zaki fight if it did. They were reduced to victims while Terry wasn't. Big surprise there mane. They aren't even in all the games any more. Andy's Terry's bro & ain't been in a single f*ckin' crossover fighting game yet.

That same first statement can be said with Mr Yagami. If we are going by this, then Terry, Ryo, Athena and co should have been with Kyo and Iori fighting Orochi(even though they have the flames to hurt him) or Beni and Gori should have been with Mr Kyo when he first took on Rugal but nope it was Kyo 😉 P.S. I blame Playmore as hell for forgetting about Andy...his bimbo girlfriend is the reason for his departure me thinks.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Possibly🙂 But it wasn't Iori. It was the glory hogger known as the Hungry Wolf mane.

Really... but now it's the glorryhoggers ,the infamous robbers of Osaka Kyo "spotlight" Kusanagi and Iori "Plowsthrough mr cool" Yagami 😂

Sorry Mane

Gotta get some sleep guys, I will continue tommorow.

Originally posted by brainchild81

They don't have to be real, they just should try to make a little sense sometimes. It seems that people prefer it that way. Maybe that's why why FF never became as successful as SF & why SNK never became as successful as Capcom & went under in the first place huh? Seems like Capcom knows what works. Heroes winning all the time in fiction is just plain retarded