Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Mad Jim Jaspers could literally shit something vastly more powerful than Apocalypse if he wanted to. 😐
Mad Jim Jaspers could literally shit something vastly more powerful than Silver Surfer if he wanted to.
Originally posted by Rewmac
[B]That's some good stuff...Which issue is it from...? /B]
Eternals Apocalypse Now
Originally posted by XplosiveMiss the point much? 😐
Mad Jim Jaspers could literally shit something vastly more powerful than Silver Surfer if he wanted to.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Miss the point much? 😐
Using Jaspers and the Scarlet Witch to try and make a case for mutants being more powerful than the PC is just silly considering how they dwarf the power of the mutant in question and mutants in general.
True, but considering that mutants have the greatest potential in the existence or humans, same, than power cosmic is no greater than mutant x-gene.
I think he could stalemate Surfer for awhile at least. With prep, I believe he can win. You underestimate the celestial tech. Why is it Xplosive is the only one who gets what I mean by Apoc's full potential? Is it because he read that massive respect thread link? Or because you believe Apocalypse is solely a jobber at this point?
Originally posted by jasofisc
apoc has the power to take down surfer (he did stalemate the high evolutionary) but he will most likely not win that's just the way apoc rolls.
Oh Really?!?!?! 🙂
Originally posted by guy222
High E stalemated Galactus
😆 😆 😆
I knew APOC could take on the big G( atleast w/ PREP)
b4 i was crazy....now you all are starting to see the light 💃
Originally posted by jasofisc
why post surfers PIS feats it's fanboish to think that surfer is better then menphisto or that surfer is really able to absorb stars and your not a fan boy. I know he did these things but wolverine has taken down namor and regenerated from nothing that doesn't mean he should be able to.
All we can say to Mephisto is i quess his weak against opponent whos got a pure soul that would be akin to Superman's Kryptonite..
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Which means Apocalypse at his full potential, is capable of beating Silver Surfer. Personally I'd call classic Surfer middle of the road in terms of PC.
Guys heared of Harmageddon, 1st of human turned into a horseman..
I think that guy in Apoc. side by side be unstopable, too bad he left for the stars..
Originally posted by Bentley
The power cosmic is still leagues away from the X-gene, no mutant can beat Galactus, it just happens that if you pick the lowest PC characters and the highest mutants they get to be around the same level.
SW and SS are no where near to be around the same level (she goes far and far beyond him) or Mad Jim Jasper.
Mutant X-gene potential goes beyond Galactus.
And remember, White Crown of the Phoenix, she is that because of the mutant genes.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Why is it Xplosive is the only one who gets what I mean by Apoc's full potential?
Because I know much more than many here about Apocalypse.
When you mention to someone Apocalypse, they will say, table thrown at him.
Th point is, that many, even those who hate Apocalypse, know that what his powers are, know he could be a beast constantly.
That is why we get such threads as Apocalypse Vs. Some Cosmic Power, because they know he could do that, it is within his potential.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I think he could stalemate Surfer for awhile at least. With prep, I believe he can win. You underestimate the celestial tech. Why is it Xplosive is the only one who gets what I mean by Apoc's full potential? Is it because he read that massive respect thread link? Or because you believe Apocalypse is solely a jobber at this point?
I've read through at least three respect threads for Apoc, and give him credit for what he is. A decently powered prep-meister. In a straight up fight with someone at random, he's gonna have a lot of problems.
Though tech from the Celestials is nice, unless you're calling Arishem the Judge from out of nowhere, it's not going to do an amount of good against Thanos, who has become the level of a deity three times, and each time he attained the power he didn't seem to break a single sweat.
Saying Apoc could beat Surfer more times than not would be the equivalent of me saying that Beta Ray Bill could defeat Dr. Strange because he clobberized him once after catching him off guard.
Originally posted by guy222Actually he didn't...people just think he did, most of which didn't even read the comic.
High E stalemated Galactus
Originally posted by masterbruceWhat an absolutely ridiculous statement...what 'godhood' did he display in the cartoon?
What's wierd about Apoc is that while most comic characters are depowered in cartoons, Apoc is shown closer to his true form, that of Godhood!
He went to the Axis of Time, (against his will I might add), and used the technology there to manipulate time. This falls under the Infinity Gauntlet scenario of Aunt May being able to do the same thing. When it came down to actually fighting...Cable showed up and swiftly took him down with a couple of blasts from his gun.
Anyway, people like to talk about how we haven't seen Apoc's true power, well we haven't seen Surfer's true power, either. The guy almost always holds back...but when pissed off, he does damage...Ie. being able to take out five Annihilation Wave ships at the same time.
I don't see Apoc giving him any trouble in a straight-up fight...but Apoc is certainly capable of pulling off Doom-style sneak attack, and has the physical power to back it up, should the Surfer resist in any way.