Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Current Surfer Beats Apoc. Apoc is a herald LvL being. But he's not messing with the Best Herald Ever. Especially now that Surfer has been upgraded.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
What is with this Surfer got upgraded bullshit?
Everyone says wow Surfer is now upgraded he is a lot more powerfull still he only did things that he was capable of before his upgrade.
Well to me he was able to take a shot from Aegis. The same shot that gave Galactus a nice Heaping of aaaarg. Surfer was already a little better than Apoc to begin with. Upgrading makes him a lot better.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well to me he was able to take a shot from Aegis. The same shot that gave Galactus a nice Heaping of aaaarg. Surfer was already a little better than Apoc to begin with. Upgrading makes him a lot better.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Oh so now Surfer's durability is beyond Galactus's. Galan was cheapshoted by Aegis and he was already beaten up by Tenebrous. He stil hasn't shown any big difference in power except that Ravenous was saying "What have you become" stuff
NO i'm not saying Surfer is beyong Galactus in Durability. I'm saying if you can take a shot that can hurt big G, and live to tell the story, your pretty durable.
Originally posted by Lord S
Actually he didn't...people just think he did, most of which didn't even read the comic.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y37/Nightmareman95/powers1.png
Apoc just laughed off The big HE's energy blasts. It had no effect.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
APoc seems to be all over the place. He at times seems to be Herald lvl, at times above it, at times below it. WTF. He's worst than DS. I don't know how to judge him.
I know what you mean one second he's getting taken down by some of the least powerful x-men then another time some of the most powerfull x-men and inhumans were not able to take him down.
Originally posted by jasofisc
I know what you mean one second he's getting taken down by some of the least powerful x-men then another time some of the most powerfull x-men and inhumans were not able to take him down.
It could be due to that pit he uses. Maybe when he's fresh out of it, he's like some mini galactus. You know how Galactus is powerful when fed, and only so so powerful when not. Apoc could be like Sky father when well rested and weaker when not. It would explain his all over the place power ratings.
That's partially correct. He is weaker when he's taken out too early. Though even at top strength, he's definitely not skyfather. sweatdrop sweatdrop Alot of it is pure and simple jobbing. He was monstrously powerful, probably enough to fight Surfer, in his classic incarnation. In his newer ones, he jobs to the likes of Cable. Yeah that's right. I think his losing to Cable was jobbing. Cable shouldn't be able to touch Apoc.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
That's partially correct. He is weaker when he's taken out too early. Though even at top strength, he's definitely not skyfather. sweatdrop sweatdrop Alot of it is pure and simple jobbing. He was monstrously powerful, probably enough to fight Surfer, in his classic incarnation. In his newer ones, he jobs to the likes of Cable. Yeah that's right. I think his losing to Cable was jobbing. Cable shouldn't be able to touch Apoc.
He's got to be sky father at his hieght. At least low lvl. I mean look at who was created to beat him. XMAN an Omega mutant who's power rivaled the phoenix. You dont' create a being that powerful to take out someone who can only obtain herald status. And Apoc was able to fight the HE who is a galactus stalemate. At least that is what I thought. maybe i'm behind in my reading.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Woah, what is that? Is that canon? Phoenix's actual power is impossible to gauge due to her massive PIS and jobbing. But for the sake of arguement......now do you believe me about Apoc being able to beat Surfer?
I guess I don't ruin every thread as I was the one questioning Apocs power lvls and why someone like xman needs to be created to beat the En Sabur Nur or how ever the hell you spellit..
