Originally posted by Scoobless
He wont be doing any of that from inside an unending mass of Quantum shields that are imprisoning him.
i could say the same form quasar, surfer containing him in a force field, surfer´s faster so he wont be catch in quasar force field and more easily use one on quasar, and by the way he would do that from inside a force field.
Originally posted by Scoobless
To do that you'd have to show me a time Surfer trapped Quasar inside an energy bubble.😬
It's common knowledge that Quasar can absorb pretty much any type of energy ... and he has absorbed power cosmic straight out of heralds in the past... including Firelord, Nova and the Silver Surfer.
surfer can create a force field, by all means it shows that he can make one on quasar.
do you have at least quasar absorbing a force field?
and to quasar put surfer in a force field he has to be able to react to his speed, and surfer´s faster
Surfer has another big advantage over quasar. When my team is hurt and tired, he can heal them. Imagine that we are loosing, silver surfer will use his powers to heal them.
Here he his healing thor
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Avengers_v2_012_38.jpg
Here he is healing thousand of persons
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/CosPowUnlim_1996_004_27.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/CosPowUnlim_1996_004_28.jpg
If surfer gets tired, he can absorb energy and use it as cosmic energy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/solar2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v345/sifu1/solar4.jpg
Here he is absorbing energy from a sun and redirect it
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Homecoming47.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Homecoming48.jpg
has proved above, surfer can create force fieds and his faster then quasar, he could very well be the first locking quasar in a force field before the other way around.
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_v3_146_12.jpg
he can lock him and in the meantime he can use his power cosmic to attack the other team members
Has proved by the following scans he can fight without his board, and make the board be used by someone else
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer2-13.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/GalactusTheDevourer2-14.jpg
for example he could put spawn using the board or even command the board to do this to mimic or psylocke:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5186690
And the most important thing surfer can create Internal Attack, quasar and surfer are friends, and he is pacifist so doens´t usually does this. But he can use the power cosmic to create an internal attack:
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Cosmic_Powers_Unlimited_03_21.jpg
He's not faster where it counts. When they were both fighting for the fate of the Universe Surfer couldn't avoid his blasts and was even knocked off his board.
They seem about equal in speed here:
http://img277.imageshack.us/my.php?image=quasar050336qc.jpg
And he's not fast enough to avoid this:
http://img277.imageshack.us/my.php?image=quasar050343zo.jpg
And not powerful enough to take Quasar out easily even when Quasar is trying to lose ... and that's without Q-armour:
http://img277.imageshack.us/my.php?image=quasar050387iq.jpg
Surfer is fast when he's flying in a straight line or between planets ... in an small (relatively speaking) enclosed battlefield he has no speed advantage at all.
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Originally posted by Loot
Surfer has another big advantage over quasar. When my team is hurt and tired, he can heal them. Imagine that we are loosing, silver surfer will use his powers to heal them.
He wont be healing anyone from inside a force field
Originally posted by Loot
has proved above, surfer can create force fieds and his faster then quasar, he could very well be the first locking quasar in a force field before the other way around.
He has no speed advantage and Quasar is a better energy manipulator than Surfer.
And why would Surfer be trying to trap Quasar ... you stated nothing about it in your prep, this is obviously taking him by surprise.
Originally posted by Loot
Has proved by the following scans he can fight without his board, and make the board be used by someone else
And without the Board he has no speed to speak of ... welcome to the world of being trapped inside shields forever.
Originally posted by Loot
And the most important thing surfer can create Internal Attack, quasar and surfer are friends, and he is pacifist so doens´t usually does this. But he can use the power cosmic to create an internal attack:
Jack of Hearts is a being composed of energy which is why Surfer could easily effect him like that ... Quasar has done worse to him by accident when he was less experienced.
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Ok, I need to go.
If this is still up late tomorrow afternoon I may manage one or two more posts.
If not, good match Loot.
Surfer can create power inside a persons body, you don´t have to have a body made by energy.
You were saying about the prep? I can´t lock quasar in a shield during prep, only after the fight begins, read your prep time you also can´t lock surfer. I was posting the strategy when the fight began as you.
Here is surfer destroying a powerful force field from Ghaur in seconds. I coulnd´t find the 2 image in the internet so I scanned it from my own comic, its in Portuguese.
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1087/silversurfervslordghaurva1.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7892/img035ey6.jpg
he his faster in any way, comparing to quasar, his reflexes are superior as well.
Thinking and moving in superspeed
http://www.geocities.com/bruno_nojunk/type-reflexes-9.html
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/ss_enslavers_39.jpg
The location of the fight is the danger room, holograms are easy for surfer to create and manipulate, he can also play with the field, he can also shut down the holograms and I know exactly from where your team members are attacking. And surfer can find anyone in nanoseconds. And communicate it via TP like I proved in the first post
Its probably not allowed but surfer could create clones of himself in prep time, and we could have two surfers fighting in my team. its not fair, but funny though
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_vol3_127-17.jpg
http://photobucket.com/albums/b305/surfistaprateado/Silver_Surfer_vol3_127-18.jpg
It looks like someone else made that clone ... the lab, the table ... the little bald claiming he was responsible.
Surfer proved he had no significant speed advantage over Quasar when they fought ... in fact I don't think Surfer managed to dodge a single attack of Quasar's
Quasar's shields >>>>>>>> that guy's shields which is why he could hold off an angry Galactus (for a short time)
I wanted to end this today and have been waiting for votes to come in, but since there are no votes at the moment, and the debate seems to be going well, I'm going to extend the match until at the very least tommorow. When at that time, I will review the match to see if they are enough votes to end it.
Good debating, both of you.
Originally posted by Scoobless
It looks like someone else made that clone ... the lab, the table ... the little bald claiming he was responsible.Surfer proved he had no significant speed advantage over Quasar when they fought ... in fact I don't think Surfer managed to dodge a single attack of Quasar's
Quasar's shields >>>>>>>> that guy's shields which is why he could hold off an angry Galactus (for a short time)
i actually think the cloning thing is forbiden by the rules, or eles i could explore that, showing surfer evolve life etc, don´t know if i could go somewhere with this, but since i do believe its not allowed i won´t bother.
that fight is crap and you know it
you said quasar shields are solid constructs, shouldn´t surfer be able to phase trough them then?
if its necessary i can post surfer phasing scans.
Why do you think that fight is crap? because the over rated Surfer didn't win on his own merit?
Quasar is around the same level as Surfer ... better in some areas, a touch behind him in others..... energy manipulation and absorbtion is an example of an area where Quasar >>> Surfer.
They're solid quantum energy .... they can still be manipulated by the quantum bands but the energy is alien to the 616 universe and can't be manipulated by non-band wearers.......
It's weird .... 😐
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Man, I'm really tired tonight again.... see ya tomorrow.
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Originally posted by Scoobless
Why do you think that fight is crap? because the over rated Surfer didn't win on his own merit?Quasar is around the same level as Surfer ... better in some areas, a touch behind him in others..... energy manipulation and absorbtion is an example of an area where Quasar >>> Surfer.
They're solid quantum energy .... they can still be manipulated by the quantum bands but the energy is alien to the 616 universe and can't be manipulated by non-band wearers.......
It's weird .... 😐
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Man, I'm really tired tonight again.... see ya tomorrow.
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i don´t like the fight because from surfer and quasar i would expect a better fight. plus its the typical fight between two heroes when we don´t have a winner in the end. that fight doesn´t prove that surfer can beat quasar nor that quasar can beat surfer. it could be a great fight though even not proving anything, but its not.
about the quantum bands, i was just thinking if surfer could phase trough them, not manipulate them, manipulate him instead, so he con pass trough them.
if there´s a way of destroying more easily the quantum contructs, or pass trough them etc, surfer knows it since he already used them and was perfectly aware of what they can do.
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see you tomorrow
The bands were created by one of the more powerful entities in the universe .... I doubt they could be phased through ... and any time I've seen Surfer "phase" it's been due to him altering the molecules of the object he's passing through.
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Doesn't look like anyone is reading this.
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Originally posted by Scoobless
The bands were created by one of the more powerful entities in the universe .... I doubt they could be phased through ... and any time I've seen Surfer "phase" it's been due to him altering the molecules of the object he's passing through.__________________________
Doesn't look like anyone is reading this.
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but as i said, surfer has used the bands and knows their power and limitations, as these scans show, for 500 years Aron taught him how to use the quantum bands to their maximum potential. 500 years!!!
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3231/keeper4training3mz9.jpg
http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/9868/keeper4training4iv8.jpg
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i was thinking the same thing, don´t know if its because the other tournament, or if simply people are too busy this month, i know i am, the end of a semestre is always busy.
Originally posted by Scoobless
For 500 years an alternate Surfer in the future used the bands .... 616 Surfer has never used them.
correct my surfer is from 616. I was so glad to find those scans that didn´t realise this. my mistake.
in that case i can only base his knowledge in our previous fight, as i´ve said before, surfer already fought quasar in this tournament, he has study the way quasar uses the bands, and what are their level of power and their weakness.
