Just because a man has a 70's mustache, campy clothes and shoots 100% gay concentrate from his heavily manicured fingertips doesn't mean they're gay, xmark. I'm disappointed.
I liked this line (when asked about the team being full of street level characters) "Secondly, since when did Luke Cage, Spider-Man, and Doctor Strange not have big time powers? These guys are pretty damn powerful". This bastard doesn't know what streetlevel is.
Originally posted by long pigI know... for shame, me... for shame... Wong is just his very good friend...
Just because a man has a 70's mustache, campy clothes and shoots 100% gay concentrate from his heavily manicured fingertips doesn't mean they're gay, xmark. I'm disappointed.
Originally posted by long pigHeh, that and the "Excellent new characters like Sentry." thing.
I liked this line (when asked about the team being full of street level characters) "Secondly, since when did Luke Cage, Spider-Man, and Doctor Strange not have big time powers? These guys are pretty damn powerful". This bastard doesn't know what streetlevel is.
Does this mean Strange is going to get lowered to Luke Cage/Spider-Man power levels... ?
Originally posted by long pig
True.Well, shooting gay from one's finger tips is a decent power. I may as well add it to his respect page.
Perhaps he has revealed his most powerful item to combat the mighty avengers: The Gloves of Homosexuality!
Or maybe Manly Mystics has just got it's spring line... lookaround
Originally posted by JuntaiBut that makes sense, because this isn't your typical Avengers setup. They're being hunted by the government. No doubt the public doesn't consider them to be Earth Mightiest Heroes, but a bunch of unregistered Superheroes disobeying the law. They're on the run and they're fighting some conspiracy that runs deep into the heart of the Marvel universe. We haven't really seen an Avengers team in this situation before (as far as i can recall), and the lineup is reflecting that.
but it doesn't feel like what the Avengers are supposed to represent.
People are thinking too much in terms of the New Avengers having to go up against Galactus or Korvac or some nigh-omnipotent baddies like that, but from all we've seen and heard about the team, it's clear that's not their purpose.
Now on the other hand we have the Mighty Avengers, which have a more typical setup, and a lineup to go with it.
Originally posted by Lucid LuiOn the flip side, as people have pointed out, this line-up is basically the same as the before CW with Strange in place of Sentry, plus Iron Fist and whoever Ronin is and minus Iron Man and Captain America. That line-up was brought together as a government sanctioned team.
But that makes sense, because this isn't your typical Avengers setup. They're being hunted by the government. No doubt the public doesn't consider them to be Earth Mightiest Heroes, but a bunch of unregistered Superheroes disobeying the law. They're on the run and they're fighting some conspiracy that runs deep into the heart of the Marvel universe. We haven't really seen an Avengers team in this situation before (as far as i can recall), and the lineup is reflecting that.People are thinking too much in terms of the New Avengers having to go up against Galactus or Korvac or some nigh-omnipotent baddies like that, but from all we've seen and heard about the team, it's clear that's not their purpose.
Now on the other hand we have the Mighty Avengers, which have a more typical setup, and a lineup to go with it.
The explanation that this set-up has warranted a different type of team would work a lot better if the same people hadn't already been brought together by Bendis under a more typical set-up.
Originally posted by Lucid LuiMaybe the team should go by a different name then? The Outsiders? lol, jkjk.
But that makes sense, because this isn't your typical Avengers setup. They're being hunted by the government. No doubt the public doesn't consider them to be Earth Mightiest Heroes, but a bunch of unregistered Superheroes disobeying the law. They're on the run and they're fighting some conspiracy that runs deep into the heart of the Marvel universe. We haven't really seen an Avengers team in this situation before (as far as i can recall), and the lineup is reflecting that.People are thinking too much in terms of the New Avengers having to go up against Galactus or Korvac or some nigh-omnipotent baddies like that, but from all we've seen and heard about the team, it's clear that's not their purpose.
Now on the other hand we have the Mighty Avengers, which have a more typical setup, and a lineup to go with it.
I personally really like the team, and although I disagree that it's comprised of street levelers, I think they are definitely less powered up than the Mighty Avengers, which makes the whole fugitive/underdog dynamic of the team that much better.
Spiderman can handle his own- not necessarily win- against almost any enemy, while Wolverine's skills and survival instincts are going to help the team a lot. Not to mention the best fighters around, with the exception of Cap are on New Avengers now: Ronin, Iron Fist, Wolverine, Spiderman, Echo Etc.
Does anyone know if those pics on the page are cover art, and is that big two page cover a variant or a normal cover?
Originally posted by King_Mungi
You just said 16 sold the least out of the series, so how could 17 and 18 go down? Make up your mind. 19 and 20 still had something to do with Alpha Flight as the Collective ark was not over. Actually it did as members of alphawave continued to read as we were told to stay with the book directly by Bendis and Joe Q.They were boycotting it. hell I even did until I was told by Bendis on his board to stay with the book and Joe Q said the same and that "not all of Alpha Flight were killed". Also very simple why some would skip ahead...they just wanted to know what happened and know the end of the ark and the follow up. However, there wasn't any follow up at all expect Wolverine's brief comment about the team to Micheal.
Did you even look at the link I posted of the sales figures? 16 sold well, 17 and 18 dropped then 19 went up and 20 went up even higher. No AF in sight yet the books went up. Now you're backtracking. You said AF readers were planning on boycotting the book but they were told to remain on board by Bendis and Joey Q. If they in fact decided not to boycott then sales wouldn't have went down no? Also those comments were made immediately after 16 was released, therefore it really really is hard for me to reason why such devoted fans would sit on the sidelines for two months and not only pick up 19, but then decide to pick 20 even though there was no AF in sight.
Face it, your AF reasoning had no real effect on sales and your point about sales rapidly declining was wrong. Sales go up and down between issues but numbers have been steadily holding.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
On the flip side, as people have pointed out, this line-up is basically the same as the before CW with Strange in place of Sentry, plus Iron Fist and whoever Ronin is and minus Iron Man and Captain America. That line-up was brought together as a government sanctioned team.The explanation that this set-up has warranted a different type of team would work a lot better if the same people hadn't already been brought together by Bendis under a more typical set-up.
Actually the previous team was far from government approved. SHIELD was against them and they only were formed cause of Cap's champion status plus the government didn't trust them so they sicced the Thunderbolts after them. They were pretty much rebels from the outset
Anyone else think that the new Ronin might be Silver Samurai. I've been going over it in my mind, and I don't think it's Cap because as good as Cap is, I don't think they'd have him jumping around and being an expert with all of those weapons.
It could be DD but i don't think they'd re-do that whole shannigan.
I think it could be Silver Samurai because it says Ronin is fighting elektra for control of the Japanese underworld and both of them are big names down there, also in the cover and such it shows Ronin fighting Ares- i know it's just a cover- but DD wouldn't last a second, and Silver Samurai would be able to fight him because he is much stronger than ppl believe, and he can make metal unbreakable, hence his sword and armor could stand up against Ares.