Error in the Bible

Started by Lord Urizen3 pages

Error in the Bible

"One day, while randomly reading my Bible, I made a startling discovery. After reading 2 Kings 19, I flipped a couple of pages and read some more. To my astonishment I found myself reading the same words. Now, class, open your Bibles to 2 Kings 19--and also to Isaiah 37.These books are word for word identical! No bible scholar has been able to give me a satisfactory explanation for this. (Maybe the scholar who double-titled heeded Jesus' warning and didn't take out one tittle----Alex) "

http://ejm.tripod.com/who_wrote_bible.htm

Why are these two passages exactly the same word for word ?

Can someone explain this to me ? Why would "God" give two passages that are EXACTLY the same ?????

Does God repeat himself ?

Or perhaps is this an error in the human editting of our current Bible ?

* same verses does not mean error...

"And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stayed in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day."
Joshua 10:13

The author of this website is a bit of a joke. He claims to be analytical, but he were, he would have no problems with the Galatians passage.

There are two reasons I see for these to be the same.
1) In the case that you didn't read the passage, it would be important to note that it deals with the prophecy of Isaiah, an important prophecy, which is why it belongs Isaiah. This prophecy and its fulfillment had a major impact on the history of Israel as it was the destruction of Assyria, giving it a place in the history book of 2 Kings.

2) The books of the OT were copied on seperate scrolls and reading in the Temple involved reading from one scroll. The process of copying of scrolls was a complex ritual that left no room for error (hence the absolute symmetry between the passages). Since I have shown that this passage has a place in both books and that both would be incomplete without it, it is easy to understand that if the Priest were reading from one scroll or the other and that passage was left out, the Word would be incomplete. Therefore, it is best included in both so that reading from either scroll would give historical setting for further reading and create unity and flow on both scrolls.

here are more contradictions and erros

http://www.islamway.com/english/images/library/contradictions.htm

There are no holly books..... except for mine. 😛

Originally posted by Nellinator
The author of this website is a bit of a joke. He claims to be analytical, but he were, he would have no problems with the Galatians passage.

I found his argument pretty valid *surprise, surprise*

I can relate, because being an ex-Christian like him, he admits that what actually turned him away from Christianity was the Bible itself...same here.

When I actually READ the Bible more and more, in effort to develop stronger Faith, it really just turned me away.

The condoning of violence is the number one reason I reject the Bible. The Bible contradicts my own personal morality, and due to all the contradictions the Bible DOES in fact possess, I could not make myself beleif in something with such error.

Originally posted by Nellinator
There are two reasons I see for these to be the same.
1) In the case that you didn't read the passage, it would be important to note that it deals with the prophecy of Isaiah, an important prophecy, which is why it belongs Isaiah. This prophecy and its fulfillment had a major impact on the history of Israel as it was the destruction of Assyria, giving it a place in the history book of 2 Kings.

So what ?

Why repeat it word for word ?

Sounds like lazy writing to me.....

Originally posted by Nellinator
2) The books of the OT were copied on seperate scrolls and reading in the Temple involved reading from one scroll. The process of copying of scrolls was a complex ritual that left no room for error (hence the absolute symmetry between the passages). Since I have shown that this passage has a place in both books and that both would be incomplete without it, it is easy to understand that if the Priest were reading from one scroll or the other and that passage was left out, the Word would be incomplete. Therefore, it is best included in both so that reading from either scroll would give historical setting for further reading and create unity and flow on both scrolls.

I understand that any human can make an honest mistake like that while putting the Bible together...but thats EXACTLY my point !

Human Beings wrote and organized the Bible...its self-evident, and that simple. If a Perfect God truly wrote it, there would be no contradictions, no confusion, no eaxct repeats, no errors, and no hate and no violence....but since the Bible possesses all these things, it seems more human and not divine.

Originally posted by peejayd
* same verses does not mean error...

"And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stayed in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day."
Joshua 10:13

Holy Scriptures of the Orgasmism

Testament of Orgy Kalima
Clause 79
Verses xxx 51-53

"Thy sun and the moon mate to create thy blue sky

For even thy celestial bodies submit to the power of Orgasm

which is ultamate truth and bliss"

How many times do I have to ask you to quit that? Will a ban do it?

Originally posted by Storm
How many times do I have to ask you to quit that? Will a ban do it?

To quit what ? If people want to argue scripture, then I'll argue scripture as well 😛

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
To quit what ? If people want to argue scripture, then I'll argue scripture as well 😛

Lord Urizen, don't be stupid, you know what storm is talking about. 🙄

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I'm just playing man, chill out

Somehow it's okay to tell people they deserve to burn in hell for all eternity, but it's not okay to worship orgasm ?

Whatever....Storm doesn't like me, it's that simple. It seems I'm just giving her more ammo to use against me

I' m not going to waste any more words on it. Keep playing your silly game, and you' ll suffer the consequences, just like anyone else would.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
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I'm just playing man, chill out

Somehow it's okay to tell people they deserve to burn in hell for all eternity, but it's not okay to worship orgasm ?

Whatever....Storm doesn't like me, it's that simple. It seems I'm giving her more ammo to use against me

Storm is not out to get you, if she was, you would be gone.

Make your point the way you did above and people will listen.

Originally posted by Storm
I' m not going to waste any more words on it. Keep playing your silly game, and you' ll suffer the consequences.

I didn't mean to get you angry Storm, please relax for a second.

You know I love you droolio

I guess I should stick to bashing Christianity with rage and fury.....that seemed to upset you less.

Anyways this is getting off topic...

Why would two identical versus exist in the Bible with two different authors ?

Does this not imply error in the editting of the Bible ?

That's it ? No one can solve this problem for me ?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Anyways this is getting off topic...

Why would two identical versus exist in the Bible with two different authors ?

Does this not imply error in the editting of the Bible ?

it might be the result of people with similar views trying to express them at different periods in time.

When translating the passages the writers may have translated similar passages identicaly (perhaps due to having seen one or the other first)

First off, in the Galatians passage let it suffice to say that the two words translated as burden are in fact different words. However, his masterful analysis couldn't see what I saw within three seconds.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Anyways this is getting off topic...

Why would two identical versus exist in the Bible with two different authors ?

Does this not imply error in the editting of the Bible ?


Well, I did a little research for you and it would seem that only one is the original, the Isaiah account. Kings is first and foremost a history of the Kings of Judah and plainly acknowledges that it is a compilation from many sources. Parallels in Kings are found in Jeremiah and Isaiah. However, the exact copying shows that the original (Isaiah) was copied perfectly into Kings so as to not tamper with the word of God.

Originally posted by Storm
How many times do I have to ask you to quit that? Will a ban do it?
I find you blatantly discriminate against Orgasmisms. I, personally, as Orgasmists, find that unacceptable. Could we please quote our scripture?

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