Error in the Bible

Started by Lord Urizen3 pages
Originally posted by FeceMan
Hades has the same meaning as the Hebrew word sheol.

1) Which came first ? Sheol or Hades ?

2) Why not just use the word Shoel, instead of the Greek word for underworld ?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
1) Which came [b]first ? Sheol or Hades ?

2) Why not just use the word Shoel, instead of the Greek word for underworld ? [/B]


'Cause...'cause they were written in Greek?

And I don't know which came first.

Hades - Hell

Elysian Fields- Heaven

Why does Greek Mythology have concepts long before Christianity stole them ? 😬

The Evolution of Hell

[i]"Like other 1st-century Jews literate in Greek, early Christians used the Greek word "hades" as the translation for the Hebrew word "sheol."

This use appears in Luke's story of Lazarus and the rich man. Both underworlds had originally been dark and gloomy with no relation to afterlife rewards or punishments. Since the writing of the Hebrew Bible, however, the popular concept of sheol had come to include particular judgment.

Thus hades was seen as a place of comfort for the righteous (in the bosom of Abraham) and torment for the wicked. Here the dead awaited the universal resurrection on Judgment Day. Early church fathers defended this view of the afterlife against the view that the soul went immediately to heaven or to hell after the death of the body[3].

The doctrine of hades exists in substantially its original Christian form in the Eastern Orthodox Church. It also exists in its Old Testament form, as the abode of the unconscious dead, in certain other denominations, such as the Jehovah's Witnesses. In mainstream Western Christianity, however, it has largely been replaced by the concept of the soul going straight to hell, heaven, or (in Roman Catholicism) purgatory."[i]

The reason people were "stowed" in "Hades" is because the blood of the Son had not yet been shed.

Originally posted by FeceMan
The reason people were "stowed" in "Hades" is because the blood of the Son had not yet been shed.

What was God waiting for ?

And that also invites my other question, why does God want Blood so much ?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
What was God waiting for ?

And that also invites my other question, why does God want Blood so much ?


Atonement, and you already made a thread on that.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
This use appears in Luke's story of Lazarus and the rich man. Both underworlds had originally been dark and gloomy with no relation to afterlife rewards or punishments. Since the writing of the Hebrew Bible, however, the popular concept of sheol had come to include particular judgment.

* what?

"But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and Lazarus in like manner evil things: but now here he is comforted and thou art in anguish."
Luke 16:25

* Lazarus was comforted... and the rich man was in anguish...

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Thus hades was seen as a place of comfort for the righteous (in the bosom of Abraham) and torment for the wicked.

* according to the parable:

"And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and that he was carried away by the angels into Abraham's bosom: and the rich man also died, and was buried.
And in Hades
he lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom."
Luke 16:22-23

* Lazarus was carried into Abraham's bosom... whilst the rich man was put to Hades...

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Here the dead awaited the universal resurrection on Judgment Day. Early church fathers defended this view of the afterlife against the view that the soul went immediately to heaven or to hell after the death of the body[3].

"In whose hand is the soul of every living thing, and the breath of all mankind."
Job 12:10

* the soul will return in God's hands...

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
The doctrine of hades exists in substantially its original Christian form in the Eastern Orthodox Church. It also exists in its Old Testament form, as the abode of the unconscious dead, in certain other denominations, such as the Jehovah's Witnesses. In mainstream Western Christianity, however, it has largely been replaced by the concept of the soul going straight to hell, heaven, or (in Roman Catholicism) purgatory."[i]

* purgatory is not in the Bible... it was just an invention of the Catholics... 😉