Originally posted by Juntai
Not that Dr Strange is far and away from anything Supes has faced anyways.
Strange should be able to kill either one with very little effort actually (assuming he manages to cast one spell).
Sentry's power is basicly hype and a couple of nice feats.
Superman's power is very well documented and he has high feats well over Sentry's.
Superman wins for now.
Originally posted by Symmetric ChaosI'm not saying Strange can't overcome Superman.
Strange should be able to kill either one with very little effort actually (assuming he manages to cast one spell).Sentry's power is basicly hype and a couple of nice feats.
Superman's power is very well documented and he has high feats well over Sentry's.Superman wins for now.
Originally posted by Juntai
I'm not saying Strange can't overcome Superman.
However, I'm saying overcoming someone of his calibre is certainly not far away from Supes, who's defeated pretty much everyone there is to beat and then some.
Whether people like it or not.
I'm sorry, Juntai. You're normally pretty reasonable, and as far as this thread goes? I agree that Superman is certainly over the Sentry.
But to suppose that Superman could even eke out one win against a 'classic' Doc Strange? That's ignorance.
This new, depowered, humanized Strange? I don't have a clue...
But cosmic-god-Strange? Sorcerer Supreme of the entire friggin UNIVERSE Strange? ❌.
I don't mean to invole an outside character, but why do the majority of members on this forum give Thor a slight advantage over Superman when there is a thread concerning those two. I know Thor possesses Mjolinir and is adept in magics, which are Superman's weakness, yet even with Superman's tremendous speed advantage, he still loses to Thor. With Supes speed, he should easily be able to reach Thor before he casts a spell and snap his neck. In every other category they're even, with Thor possesing more battle experience/Fighting skill while Supes probably has higher strength. Anyway what I'm saying is that Sentry is definetly faster than Thor, most likely as strong as Superman (he beat Void, who easily broke Hulk's bones) and he's stalemated Genis and The Collective. Genis is a being who killed Entrophy (I believe), thats got to amount to something. I belive it'll be a draw
While I agree that Sentry has yet to show anything that would really put him over Supes overall, there is some vague/roundabout evidence that he does surpass him as far as pure strength goes. In JLA/Avengers, Supes and Thor where shown to be somewhere in the strength category (though Supes strength was admittedly shown to be slightly superior, they where shown to be pretty close). Well Absorbing Man has absorbed the strength/power not only of Thor, but of also Mjolinir on numerous occasions without any problems on his part. However, when AM tried to absorb the strength of Sentry it was shown that Sentry's strength far exceeds AM's absorption capacity. In my mind that puts Sentry's quite a bit higher than that of Thor, and lends credit to the opinion that it also surpasses the strength of Supes. Like I said, it's not concrete enough to say for certain yet, but the evidence for Sentry being stronger IS building(now if we could just get Marvel to do a bit more with him, maybe we could say for certain).
I'm still not willing to give Sentry the majority over Supes until I see more from him, I just thought I'd point that out.
Originally posted by Longinus
I don't mean to invole an outside character, but why do the majority of members on this forum give Thor a slight advantage over Superman when there is a thread concerning those two. I know Thor possesses Mjolinir and is adept in magics, which are Superman's weakness, yet even with Superman's tremendous speed advantage, he still loses to Thor. With Supes speed, he should easily be able to reach Thor before he casts a spell and snap his neck. In every other category they're even, with Thor possesing more battle experience/Fighting skill while Supes probably has higher strength. Anyway what I'm saying is that Sentry is definetly faster than Thor, most likely as strong as Superman (he beat Void, who easily broke Hulk's bones) and he's stalemated Genis and The Collective. Genis is a being who killed Entrophy (I believe), thats got to amount to something. I belive it'll be a draw
Superman actually has beat thor and would beat thor. Regardless of Mjornir
Originally posted by SoljerSee, Strange is powerful, but you're giving him too much credit already, lol. In his newest series, not only he did he get almost killed by a handgun, but he got his powers shut off by an apprentice magician.
I'm sorry, Juntai. You're normally pretty reasonable, and as far as this thread goes? I agree that Superman is certainly over the Sentry.But to suppose that Superman could even eke out one win against a 'classic' Doc Strange? That's ignorance.
This new, depowered, humanized Strange? I don't have a clue...
But cosmic-god-Strange? Sorcerer Supreme of the entire friggin UNIVERSE Strange? ❌.
Superman can and has overcome threats easily as high as Dr Strange. Whether one believes he should take the majority or not is up to each individual person's opinion... hell, everything on this forum is. However Superman has outdone high end magicians and cosmic-type gods alike. That's why I say it's not a far leap beyond him to believe he could go a round or two with him like Sentry did apperently did, as mentioned earlier.
And while it doesn't really mean shit here, lets not forget that Wizard also believes Supes would just speedblitz him. 😉
Originally posted by darthgoober
While I agree that Sentry has yet to show anything that would really put him over Supes overall, there is some vague/roundabout evidence that he does surpass him as far as pure strength goes. In JLA/Avengers, Supes and Thor where shown to be somewhere in the strength category (though Supes strength was admittedly shown to be slightly superior, they where shown to be pretty close). Well Absorbing Man has absorbed the strength/power not only of Thor, but of also Mjolinir on numerous occasions without any problems on his part. However, when AM tried to absorb the strength of Sentry it was shown that Sentry's strength far exceeds AM's absorption capacity. In my mind that puts Sentry's quite a bit higher than that of Thor, and lends credit to the opinion that it also surpasses the strength of Supes. Like I said, it's not concrete enough to say for certain yet, but the evidence for Sentry being stronger IS building(now if we could just get Marvel to do a bit more with him, maybe we could say for certain).I'm still not willing to give Sentry the majority over Supes until I see more from him, I just thought I'd point that out.
Wow... ABC (more like ABCDEFG) logic to the extreme!!! 😱