Mace, Anakin, and Obi Wan vs. Dookus goons

Okay, so Mace, Anakin, and Obi Wan (all ROTS) are sent to capture the treacherous Count Dooku (overkill for sure). However, when they reach their destination, instead of Dooku, they find a non-chronologically correct group of his goons! Oh no! A battle ensues. Who comes out Victorious?

The goons are as follows:
Asajj Ventress
Sora Bulq
Jango Fett
General Greivous
Quinlan Vos
Durge
Sev'rance Tann
Cydon Prax
Tol Skorr

If the trio is victorious, will they have the strength to capture Dooku, exactly one minute after this battle, or, will he overwhelm the survivor(s), causing their efforts to be in vain?

(Please let this thread live, Rex, puh-leez. The Vs forum is going down the drain, but, I liked this idea. At least let it live to see some responses)

I doubt that they can take all of these guys. If they do manage to, they definately aren't able to capture Dooku.

And I don't see why you are saying that the vs. forum is going down the drain. It has almost as much activity now as it ever has had in the past.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I doubt that they can take all of these guys. If they do manage to, they definately aren't able to capture Dooku.

And I don't see why you are saying that the vs. forum is going down the drain. It has almost as much activity now as it ever has had in the past.

Cool, cool.

Yeah, that's a big part of it going down the drain... if you catch my meaning...

The forum is surviving thanks to my resurrected threads 🙂

Are they fighting all these people at once?

Vos was always a loyal Jedi. As soon as he sees these three, he will defect over to them. Therfore,

Quinlan will engage in a duel with Ventress. This will be a long and hard fought duel.

Anakin will engage in a duel with Durge.

Kenobi will engage in a duel with Grievous, and kill him in a minute or a minute in half. Like ROTS. He can probably also take on Sev'rance whilst doing this, if he dodges a lot and uses the Force.

Windu will take on Jango and Cydon Prax, and probably defeat them in a minute. He can probably also take on Sora whilst doing this.

If Anakin knocks Durge, he can also help out Mace and Kenobi. In addition, he can quickly help Quinlan kill of Asajj. This way, Quinlan can probably help Mace.

I say the Jedi kill off the goons. However, all of them will be tired. Dooku has 1 minute to save/stall himself from them. I would say he can Force Push Kenobi away to stop him from pursuing. He can probably take out Vos quickly enough. Then he'll have Anakin and Mace on his tail. It's going to be close. The fate of Dooku depends on the rest of the Forum's hands...

Eh, because you asked in improper grammar and italics, I'll let it slide. ermm[/rex]

Originally posted by General Kenobl
Vos was always a loyal Jedi. As soon as he sees these three, he will defect over to them. Therfore,

Quinlan will engage in a duel with Ventress. This will be a long and hard fought duel.

Anakin will engage in a duel with Durge.

Kenobi will engage in a duel with Grievous, and kill him in a minute or a minute in half. Like ROTS. He can probably also take on Sev'rance whilst doing this, if he dodges a lot and uses the Force.

Windu will take on Jango and Cydon Prax, and probably defeat them in a minute. He can probably also take on Sora whilst doing this.

If Anakin knocks Durge, he can also help out Mace and Kenobi. In addition, he can quickly help Quinlan kill of Asajj. This way, Quinlan can probably help Mace.

I say the Jedi kill off the goons. However, all of them will be tired. Dooku has 1 minute to save/stall himself from them. I would say he can Force Push Kenobi away to stop him from pursuing. He can probably take out Vos quickly enough. Then he'll have Anakin and Mace on his tail. It's going to be close. The fate of Dooku depends on the rest of the Forum's hands...

Wait, wait, wait! Mace taking Jango, Cydon and Sora at once? Jango who with one gun Mace was "swinging wildly" against according to the AOTC novel, and Sora who put up a match against him alone?
Mace is going down for sure!

I doubt it. Mace in AOTC is a good deal weaker than Mace in ROTS. Check out Shatterpoint for details.

He can't beat 2 sabers and 4 guns at once! Jango is the best shot and "the deadliest man in the galaxy", parrying his well placed shots will be hard for even Mace, Cydon was Dooku's second choice for that, and Sora who actually tripped Mace with a force push, and stated they were equals (although they aren't) and could keep up with him for sure will IMO be to much for Mace. I mean, is he suppose to turn around about 6 times per second to parry two shots from Jango's gun, 1 or 2 from Cydon and two strikes from Sora's two blades at once?

He can't beat 2 sabers and 4 guns at once!

Mace is certainly capable of seperating his opponents and then finishing them off one by one. And in addition, he has the skill to block all that anyway.

Jango is the best shot and "the deadliest man in the galaxy", parrying his well placed shots will be hard for even Mace

Yet when Mace stormed him, he got himself beheaded.

Cydon was Dooku's second choice for that,

Anakin, several monthes into the war, was able to kill him.

and Sora who actually tripped Mace with a force push, and stated they were equals (although they aren't) and could keep up with him for sure will IMO be to much for Mace.

Sora is way too arrogant. Mace is much more superior, and he can use his Vapaad skill to kill Bulq or use his greater Force mastery to have distance between them.

I mean, is he suppose to turn around about 6 times per second to parry two shots from Jango's gun, 1 or 2 from Cydon and two strikes from Sora's two blades at once?

Kenobi was able to block Grievous's 16 strikes per second. I am sure Mace is capable of Force Jumping and Crushing and using his lightsaber to block the gunshots and take out Bulq.

Originally posted by General Kenobl
Mace is certainly capable of seperating his opponents and then finishing them off one by one. And in addition, he has the skill to block all that anyway.

Yet when Mace stormed him, he got himself beheaded.

Anakin, several monthes into the war, was able to kill him.

Sora is way too arrogant. Mace is much more superior, and he can use his Vapaad skill to kill Bulq or use his greater Force mastery to have distance between them.

Kenobi was able to block Grievous's 16 strikes per second. I am sure Mace is capable of Force Jumping and Crushing and using his lightsaber to block the gunshots and take out Bulq.

Seperating his opponents, how? They are still not out of the fight, a force push will send them flying a bit, but that's that. Sora has force powers to, and last time when they were one on one, Sora pushed Mace to the ground. He ain't bad at all, it's not like Mace could go do anything to the others and Sora would watch....

Yeah, while Jango had one gun and a disfunctional jetpack! Still had him swinging wildly!

Btw, Mace even thought himself in shatterpoint, that if he would have killed Dooku in AOTC, Jango would have killed him. That is Jango without having drawed his gun, and that is Mace not fending of another Vaapad master with two swords and yet another professional bounty hunter.....

So Mace being able to parry that, no, just no! Obi might be able to parry Grievous strikes thanks to his Soresu, that doesn't mean Mace will be able to, yet less being able to TURN 16 times a second. All attacks aren't coming from the same direction as Grievous are....

Seperating his opponents, how? They are still not out of the fight, a force push will send them flying a bit, but that's that. Sora has force powers to, and last time when they were one on one, Sora pushed Mace to the ground. He ain't bad at all, it's not like Mace could go do anything to the others and Sora would watch....

Windu is clearly capable of reflecting Cydon's gunshots back at him, and in doing so, either wounding or killing him. Whilst doing this, he can Force Crush/Push Jango away (which in turn will explode his jetpack). Then he takes on Sora and in the time Fett comes back, either kill him or put enough distance. Then Mace will charge Fett and take him out finally. If Prax isn't dead, Windu will decapitate him.

Then Mace finishes off Bulq.

Yeah, while Jango had one gun and a disfunctional jetpack! Still had him swinging wildly!

Jango is a good shot, that's all. If he was on jetpack, it wouldn't make a difference as he will have a more difficult time aiming at the ground.

Btw, Mace even thought himself in shatterpoint, that if he would have killed Dooku in AOTC, Jango would have killed him. That is Jango without having drawed his gun, and that is Mace not fending of another Vaapad master with two swords and yet another professional bounty hunter.....

Umm.....remember when Mace had Jango at saberpoint. When Windu saw the droids coming, he COULD have swiped at Dooku and killed him. In return, Jango would have un-holstered his blaster and killed Mace. But during this time, Windu instead decides to block the droid attack and jump onto the arena.

So Mace being able to parry that, no, just no! Obi might be able to parry Grievous strikes thanks to his Soresu, that doesn't mean Mace will be able to, yet less being able to TURN 16 times a second. All attacks aren't coming from the same direction as Grievous are....

See above.

Worst case Mace uses Force Crush on one or two of his opponents. He did it to GG and I wouldn't be surprised if he did it here.

Originally posted by General Kenobl
Windu is clearly capable of reflecting Cydon's gunshots back at him, and in doing so, either wounding or killing him. Whilst doing this, he can Force Crush/Push Jango away (which in turn will explode his jetpack). Then he takes on Sora and in the time Fett comes back, either kill him or put enough distance. Then Mace will charge Fett and take him out finally. If Prax isn't dead, Windu will decapitate him.

Then Mace finishes off Bulq.

Jango is a good shot, that's all. If he was on jetpack, it wouldn't make a difference as he will have a more difficult time aiming at the ground.

Umm.....remember when Mace had Jango at saberpoint. When Windu saw the droids coming, he COULD have swiped at Dooku and killed him. In return, Jango would have un-holstered his blaster and killed Mace. But during this time, Windu instead decides to block the droid attack and jump onto the arena.

See above.

And that only talks for what Windu would do, figuring the others would do exactly as you say....

For example, Sora pushes Windu exactly like he did in that comic, while from different sides Jango and Cydon shoots Mace, Mace dies...

If Jango had his jetpack and both his guns, Mace would have a harder time to parry (seeing as it is two guns) and would not reach him and be in the same position as Obi-Wan was on Kamino.

Umm... this shows that Mace clearly wasn't able to parry shots behind his back, how is he able to do it now, from 3 different sides, 2 from Jango, 2 from Cydon and 2 sabers from Sora? He can't take them all, not at once..

It is also nothing that points out that Mace will handle Sora easily...

When Sora stated they were equal, Mace didn't say anything. When Assaj did it, he instantly remarked they weren't.
Sora did put Mace on his ass once when they were in combat pushing him, but he got up quickly.
Mace and Sora had a fight, and it was left unfinished when Mace had to leave. There is nothing that says he will win this easily, and having Jango and Cydon on his side makes me believe it is enough for him to win it!

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Worst case Mace uses Force Crush on one or two of his opponents. He did it to GG and I wouldn't be surprised if he did it here.

But I haven't seen Mace just throw these out anyday, and he could very well have thought of Grievous as a machine, with no feelings. He had the chancellor to!

Anyway, if he is to reach out his hand, focus, and crush whoever he wants (except Sora, he could most likley counter it) of the two bounty hunters, he could be intercepted by Sora's powers, shot by another, or Sora will confront him with sabers. He cannot handle them with one hand, hell no.

And it's constantly Mace being put with the abilities, but he is not really in position to do much, he will be overwhealmed by them, and if he is to go around throwing force powers while being shot at, I don't think he will make it!
I'll state once again, that it was not a walk in the park for him to meet Jango's blast with one gun alone.

Origionally I had something saying that Quinlan fights on Dookus team, still (I was going to have Qui Gon on Dookus side, but, it would have been over powered). Quinlan is against the Jedi in this match.

And that only talks for what Windu would do, figuring the others would do exactly as you say....

Imagine the scenario. The three Jedi walk in and see the 9 goons staring at them, their weapons drawn. Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Mace ignite their lightsabers. Quinlan draws his out and turns on his opponents. Ventress sees this and begins a duel with him. The fights bursts open. Mace jumps in the air and does what I described he might do, while Cydon and Jango start firing at him.

For example, Sora pushes Windu exactly like he did in that comic, while from different sides Jango and Cydon shoots Mace, Mace dies...

What is up with you saying "OMG, Sora pushed Windu!!!!1111"? Did you even consider the situation that was happening. Mace was calm and relaxed throughout the duel, and in the beginning he didn't even want to harm Bulq, and Sora was out for the kill, so he pushes Windu into some rocks. Even then, Mace wasn't even phased, and came right back a second later. Mace was able to calmly parry Sora's attacks and after blocking one of them, was easily able to Push Sora away for good. And that was Windu a month after Geonosis. Imagine ROTS Windu, with all that war experience and strength. And imagine ROTS Windu going all out on Sora, Jango, and Cydon, oh yes, he is going to win.

If Jango had his jetpack and both his guns, Mace would have a harder time to parry (seeing as it is two guns) and would not reach him and be in the same position as Obi-Wan was on Kamino.

Okay, Mace can block a gunshot into Jango's blaster or Crush it. In addition, he can Push Jango away to get enough distance away to take out Cydon and Sora.

Umm... this shows that Mace clearly wasn't able to parry shots behind his back, how is he able to do it now, from 3 different sides, 2 from Jango, 2 from Cydon and 2 sabers from Sora? He can't take them all, not at once..

I didn't say anything of that sort, but you can think whatever you want. Know that this is the same Mace who defeated Sidious in combat. Sidious could take out these three baboons.

When Sora stated they were equal, Mace didn't say anything. When Assaj did it, he instantly remarked they weren't.

Yes, Sora and Mace are really equal you know, even Mace was able to clamly parry Sora's attack and then stick his hand forward and Push Bulq away for good. Yes, since when did silence equate to how powerful a Jedi is?

Sora did put Mace on his ass once when they were in combat pushing him, but he got up quickly.

He got up quickly, that's the main point. The rocks weren't nothing to Windu. ROTS Mace can pwn Sora's ass. Sora Bulq lost to Quinlan Vos, and we know Windu > Quinlan.

Origionally I had something saying that Quinlan fights on Dookus team, still (I was going to have Qui Gon on Dookus side, but, it would have been over powered).

Quinlan > Qui-Gon. Been proven here and at Darthsith's Ultimate Star Wars.

Quinlan is against the Jedi in this match.

Well this makes it harder for the Jedi certainly. With Quinlan, they can win. Without him, they perhaps can win....

Wow, doesn't this break the rules? Anyhow, I'm assuming this is all the characters in their primes. Hmm, the trio is screwed. Obsession Asajj would fight ROTS Kenobi and though Kenobi would eventually win it'd take a long time. When Sora and Mace faught before in Jedi: Mace Windu Mace won but only after a pretty good fight. Add someone else in there, say, Quinlan Vos, and Mace is a goner, if he does somehow manage to win it'd be an extremely long fight. Meanwhile, Anakin takes on the rest by himself. Tann was the general before Grievous and is likely pretty strong. Durge alone would give Anakin alot of trouble, as would Grievous (if it's CW Grievous). Cydon Prax is nothing, he fires at Anakin and Anakin deflects it back at him, Prax dies. Lets just say Anakin manages to pwn Grievous right away with the Force, too. Tann and Skorr now engage him in saber combat, he'd take them after a medium length fight but then there's Jango firing at him with his blasters then Durge kicking him around like he did in Obsession and Anakin gets pwnd. Then Skorr and Tann go join Asajj and Kenobi is overwhelmed while Durge and Jango go join Vos and Bulq and Mace is screwed. So the Dark Acolytes win. Causilties are Prax and maybe Grievous.

Quinlan > Qui-Gon. Been proven here and at Darthsith's Ultimate Star Wars.

Clearly Darth, we were right in our vote. And I don't have time to refute your paragraph right now, but I will do so if no one else does.