Originally posted by General Kenobl
Imagine the scenario. The three Jedi walk in and see the 9 goons staring at them, their weapons drawn. Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Mace ignite their lightsabers. Quinlan draws his out and turns on his opponents. Ventress sees this and begins a duel with him. The fights bursts open. Mace jumps in the air and does what I described he might do, while Cydon and Jango start firing at him.What is up with you saying "OMG, Sora pushed Windu!!!!1111"? Did you even consider the situation that was happening. Mace was calm and relaxed throughout the duel, and in the beginning he didn't even want to harm Bulq, and Sora was out for the kill, so he pushes Windu into some rocks. Even then, Mace wasn't even phased, and came right back a second later. Mace was able to calmly parry Sora's attacks and after blocking one of them, was easily able to Push Sora away for good. And that was Windu a month after Geonosis. Imagine ROTS Windu, with all that war experience and strength. And imagine ROTS Windu going all out on Sora, Jango, and Cydon, oh yes, he is going to win.
Okay, Mace can block a gunshot into Jango's blaster or Crush it. In addition, he can Push Jango away to get enough distance away to take out Cydon and Sora.
I didn't say anything of that sort, but you can think whatever you want. Know that this is the same Mace who defeated Sidious in combat. Sidious could take out these three baboons.
Yes, Sora and Mace are really equal you know, even Mace was able to clamly parry Sora's attack and then stick his hand forward and Push Bulq away for good. Yes, since when did silence equate to how powerful a Jedi is?
He got up quickly, that's the main point. The rocks weren't nothing to Windu. ROTS Mace can pwn Sora's ass. Sora Bulq lost to Quinlan Vos, and we know Windu > Quinlan.
Quinlan > Qui-Gon. Been proven here and at Darthsith's Ultimate Star Wars.
Well this makes it harder for the Jedi certainly. With Quinlan, they can win. Without him, they perhaps can win....
Where does it say Mace was calm through the whole duel? And Mace would have parried it if he could, not saying he will never be able to, but he failed that time. Now, if he is going to focus on "crushing Jango's two blasters, tickle Cydon while pull some hairs on Sora", I doubt he is going to be able to block it. And I already stated that they were not on par, but I consider them to be pretty close at least! But the point was that when Assaj stated they were equal Mace instantly shut her up, when Sora did it, Mace didn't object for shit....
Seriously, how is Mace going to do all that, while parrying 4 blaster shots per second, and defending against Sora's two blades? I'll state for the third time that Mace had to focus hard against one blaster of Jango alone, and while fighting someone who has also mastered Vaapad (and never proven to be that far ahead of as you say), I'd say he loses....
And if Mace is going to use the force as swiftly as you say in the middle of the battle, he has to know the situation exactly as we do, how will he know exactly what to do? I wonder why he didn't crush the guns that Jango had, while striking at Dooku with one hand, and pushing the droids in the doorway in AOTC....
Parrying the shots willl be more than enough to steal his focus if one blaster from Jango was enough to do that, if he is going to extend his hand to use the force, he is going to have to parry shots from the back (which he pretty much stated not to be able to in Shatterpoint, at least not from someone as experienced as Jango) with one hand, while handling either the force or sabers from Sora with..... the other?
If Jango gets pushed away, he will just activate his jetpack, which will eliminate the force of the push if turned backwards. Try to push Boba in Jedi Academy for example.
Jango also has his guns magneticed to his hands, so it is impossible for Mace to push them away that easily. Jango has darts and fire to, a fire that Mace did not want to face head on...
And Mace never pushed Bulq, he tossed some rocks at him...
And if he was so damn superior he would have defeaten him at that time, why the hell would he risk his friends lifes and go toy with Sora?
There is nothing to indicate that Sora's mastery of Vaapad is much lesser than Mace's, abscence of proof is not proof of abscence. He is shown not being able to defeat him during the time he stayed, meaning Sora survived a pretty good amount of time against him alone.
Mace has said himself that Depa's bladework also surpasses his own, and yet everyone says he beats her in swordsmanship, and I seriously don't know why! Maybe it is because they like Mace, and they know many of his feats. Well then Depa and Sora are pretty much in the same situation, give me reasons why he would "pwn" him, when he couldn't before......