Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Tyrant destroyed countless of Galaxies as side effect of his battle with Galactus.In fact even normal Thanos can destroy a solar system just by pointing.
And De-powered Tyrant would kill Thanos like nothing.If Thanos didn't have Tyrants enchantment ball he would be screwed.
By PC Superman, I am presuming that means E1 Superman..
he of the like 1,000,001+ Super<insert power name here> abilities.
Some feats, aside from the solar system destroying sneeze...
As Superboy (who was weaker than his grown up self) he once dragged a chain containing hundreds of planets from one galaxy to another in real time with no harm to the planets.
Also as Superboy he along with Mon-El, Ultraboy and Wildfore contained a matter/antimatter explosion that would have blown up a planet, with no harm to the landscape right near them. All the other three were knocked out, Superboy was not even phased.
As Superman, under one of those "turn the sun red" storylines, he remained powered by phasing through the red sun light.
Once while talking to Lois, in mid sentence he
a) "heard" a planetary disaster in another galaxy
b) flew there
c) averted the disaster
d) flew back
e) Lois did not even notice him move
E1 Superman was more or less only owned by beings like PC Darkseid, PC Mongul, Mordru and the Time Trapper all of whom would own any version of Tyrant in a few seconds.
Originally posted by thtadthtshldntb
By PC Superman, I am presuming that means E1 Superman..he of the like 1,000,001+ Super<insert power name here> abilities.
Some feats, aside from the solar system destroying sneeze...
As Superboy (who was weaker than his grown up self) he once dragged a chain containing hundreds of planets from one galaxy to another in real time with no harm to the planets.
Also as Superboy he along with Mon-El, Ultraboy and Wildfore contained a matter/antimatter explosion that would have blown up a planet, with no harm to the landscape right near them. All the other three were knocked out, Superboy was not even phased.
As Superman, under one of those "turn the sun red" storylines, he remained powered by phasing through the red sun light.
Once while talking to Lois, in mid sentence he
a) "heard" a planetary disaster in another galaxy
b) flew there
c) averted the disaster
d) flew back
e) Lois did not even notice him moveE1 Superman was more or less only owned by beings like PC Darkseid, PC Mongul, Mordru and the Time Trapper all of whom would own any version of Tyrant in a few seconds.
There is a thread somewhere on this forum about exactly this, I saw it once browsing 😖hifty:
Originally posted by grey fox
While PC superman has his impressive 'Make up powers as I go along' power it was balanced out by the fact that even the tiniest piece of K-nite nearly killed him. Tyrant simply transmutes the entire planet there on into K-nite and supes is fuxxored.
It really didn't work like that in the fifties, they almost totally forgot about Kryptonite and once moving he would just time phase in and out. He's done it before.
^There is the problem with pre-crisis DC. There were too many inconsistencies, and their explanation of heroes letting loose slowly is merely a poor explanation for their making up abilities on the fly as required by the plot to achieve a certain end, without enough thought for the storytelling process.
PC Superman has feats for almost everything. Phasing, time travel, T-vo and so on. He is balanced out by his weaknesses. Of course, he has also been shown to be resistant to K-nite, but that is an exception rather than the norm.
I am not giving the fight to anyone of these two without hearing from people who may know more anout them than myself, but I just want to say that PC superman is not all-powerful, and that Tyrant's powerset and level can easily equal a victory for him, just like superman's feats can easily equal a victory for him.
PC Superman had some of the most incredible feats out of any character.
I honestly believe that PC Superman would win over depowered Tyrant. His feats of tossing a Neutron Star light years using his hand (twice the mass of our sun), sneezing out a solar system in a dead part of the universe, towing hundreds of planets casually, etc. make me think that he would be slightly ahead of depowered Tyrant, as mentioned above PC Superman could make any new power on a whim.
I have seen scans of him making a new power called "super basket weaving". This fight, I would say he takes depowered Tyrant, but loses to full powered Tyrant (of course).
Originally posted by DevilGoblinGalactus-level huh?
Pre Crisis Superman could not beat the Savage Hulk, Tyrant is Galactus level, so are you saying the hulk is Tyrant/Galactus level ?
Is that why it was Galactus himself that was responsible for depowering Tyrant in the first place?
As for this battle, PC Supes has a good chance IMO.
Pre-Crisis Supes was full of PIS and plot device powers. Scary thing is, the guy's feats put him easily on Skyfather. He's at least mid Skyfather given that he basically destroy galaxies with minimal effort. Even with K-nite, I think Tyrant's screwed. Pre-Crisis supes had a "Can Not Lose" clause built into his character. Even if he had to develop super radiation immunity, or super insanity-causing eyes, or super bad jokes....., you see the level of rediculousness I'm talking about? The guy was nearly unbeatable. Tyrant's outclassed. But I think even Pre-Crisis Supes MIGHT go down to Tyrant.
Unless, he comes up with a super galactus power channeler. 😆 Got ya.
gladiator IS based off of pre crisis superman and he lost easily to tyrant. example:
Lifting this building up with ease.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Jonathanos/Gladiator/FF05.jpg
Fighting ego the planet:
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Jonathanos/Gladiator/Ego3.jpg
Read what nova says about gladiator and nova have fought and teamed up with some of the most powerful hero's and villians in the universe.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Jonathanos/Gladiator/Nova02.jpg
Look at his strength and read what thor says about his speed.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Jonathanos/Gladiator/WPitGlad.jpg
Read on his vision
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Jonathanos/Gladiator/Hypervision.jpg
Moving a asteroid that is blocking a star. That has to be a huge asteroid.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Jonathanos/Gladiator/GladHearing.jpg
Read what they are saying about his strength and eye vision.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Jonathanos/Gladiator/GladPower2.jpg
Another display of his strength.
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Jonathanos/Gladiator/GladPlanet1.jpg
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b97/Jonathanos/Gladiator/Gladplanet2.jpg
Read what they say about his speed and his power. The guy created another star and survived a nova blast without any harm.
http://img342.imageshack.us/img342/8890/gladiatornovaexplosion2kd.jpg
He is pre crisis superman and he lost to tyrant easily.
Originally posted by carver9
Im not saying that he IS pre crisis supes but some of feats are almost there. When gladiator puts his mind to it he can do anything and his strength is incaculable, he doesnt have a limit.
His speed almost dont have a limit. He's almost there.
Gladiator is less powerful overall than Thor.
E1 Superman has a feat that can be compared to all of Gladiator's feats and everyone of them dwarfs Gladiators.
