Darn You George

Originally posted by Lee-San28
Other than this fact i really have no problem with you as a artist and a Great Director but ..................Come on Geore your killing us jedi fans

My Angry thoughts go out to George for this Terrible display of Great jeid dieing in the most pathetic ways

Sasee Tin
Ki Adi
Agen Kolar
Kit Fisto
Ploo Koon

Come on george they where masters for crying out loud they diserve to go out in better glory that the way they did i mean they where the best of the best and they die terribly

i only wish he was acually reading this lol :]

Thoughts ???..........love to hear em!

cant say it ever bothered me. Down to Sidious' power i guess, but then i never felt too attached to Kit, Agen and Saesee in particular because of their small parts.

Originally posted by Lana
Hasn't this all been discussed to ****ing death since the movie came out?

Yes, it has, but apparently queeq should go back to it 😛

Originally posted by General G
I think that was his point, that even the "best of the best" as you referred to them, were all fooled by Sidious's plot and were caught totally unexpected. But I think that was better, not worse, it gave it more emotion, except for the ones Sidious killed in 0.45 seconds, that was bad, but I guess he was trying to show how powerfuk he really was.

Yeah. I cried during that sceane...

And the whole 3 jedi dead in .45 seconds did kinda anger me... 😠

Originally posted by Lana
Hasn't this all been discussed to ****ing death since the movie came out?

not by all

Originally posted by Lee-San28
IF you wach the movie in slow motion George makes his son the Padawan at the temple kill like 5 or 6 jedi while Ki Adi dosnt kill one of them

First: You don't need to watch that part in slow motion.
Secondly: Ki-Adi-Mundi killed about 3 of them, moving his blade out of pure instinct.
Thirdy: Ki was caught by surprise. Zett had the element of surprise.

Originally posted by General G
Yes, it has, but apparently queeq should go back to it 😛

What else should we do here? 😛

Besides, it's never been properly answered.

Originally posted by queeq
So why did Yoda lose from Palpy, and Mace didn't???

Many reasons:

# 1 - The duel between Mace Windu and Darth Sidious was only a lightsaber contest. The duel between Yoda and Darth Sidious was lightsaber, and Force. In terms of Force strength, Sidious is superior to Windu. If the two were to have a rematch and fight in an environment where Force skill and lightsaber skill and both be utilized, I guarantee you Sidious will be the better.

# 2 - Mace's Vapaad and Shatterpoint abilities make him extremely effective against Dark Side users. In addition, it's like Palpatine's first time dueling in a long time, and he's pitted against the 2nd most powerful Jed in the Order. However, when he faces Yoda, he's faced already a guy like Windu, so he won't be totally off balance on the lightsaber skill of the PT Masters.

# 3 - The setting of Yoda vs. Sidious was clearly in an environment biased against our Grandmaster. Sidious was throwing Senate pods thirty times the size of Yoda at our "little green friend". Hence, Yoda had a really tough time out there. If there were to fight in the Chancellor's Office, the fight would have played differently.

The basic fact is that Yoda=Sidious.
Yoda > Windu.
Ergo, by Transitive Property, Sidious > Windu. However, since Windu > Sidious in lightsaber combat, it's obvious that Sidious's mastery of the Force surpasses Mace and that gives him the advantage that proves him better than the Korun master.

What BS!!

1. In a duel to the death, why would a Jedi or Sith NOT use the Force. The Force guides the actions, so also the lightsabre in a duel. So that is a complete utter BS argument

2. More BS... why would he be off balance? He's in charge and Emperor... And the fighting styles, to weigh it like that is too EU.

3. Size matters not. Yoda could lift an entire X-Wing in his old age.

And transitive property is not allowed here. 😉

Yes...the Jedi's deaths were lame...

...but then again jedi are lame....

...so it kind of makes sense.

Originally posted by General Kenobl
The basic fact is that Yoda=Sidious.
Yoda > Windu.
Ergo, by Transitive Property, Sidious > Windu. However, since Windu > Sidious in lightsaber combat, it's obvious that Sidious's mastery of the Force surpasses Mace and that gives him the advantage that proves him better than the Korun master.

Just because:

Elephant>mouse
mouse>monkey
DOES NOT MEAN elephant>monkey

because there is no way the elephant is greater than the monkey.

I read this somewhere a long time ago in the star wars vs forum and for some reason it stuck with me 😛 , so I cannot take credit for that

😂

Originally posted by General G
Just because:

Elephant>mouse
mouse>monkey
DOES NOT MEAN elephant>monkey

because there is no way the elephant is greater than the monkey.

I read this somewhere a long time ago in the star wars vs forum and for some reason it stuck with me 😛 , so I cannot take credit for that

Unfortunately it is mathematical fact that if A>B and B>C then A>C.

Nice try though. Here in the Republic we still use logic.

What BS!!

1. In a duel to the death, why would a Jedi or Sith NOT use the Force. The Force guides the actions, so also the lightsabre in a duel. So that is a complete utter BS argument

I do not have evidence what were Sidious's intentions or why he didn't use the Force in that duel. Overconfidence perhaps? This argument was heavily debated in the VS. Forum, and the general conclusion is that Sidious > Windu because even though he's not better in terms of the lightsaber, his powerful Force skill makes up for it. And DE Sidious or TPM Sidious can definately slay Mace.

2. More BS... why would he be off balance? He's in charge and Emperor... And the fighting styles, to weigh it like that is too EU.

Umm, a Non Sequiter! What does being charge of an Empire have anything to do with going against the unexpected and facing the 2nd most powerful Jedi?

3. Size matters not. Yoda could lift an entire X-Wing in his old age.

It was not a neutral setting and it was clearly biased against Yoda. I mean, people say Yoda lost, however, he only lost because the Force of reflecting Sidious's lightning pushed him from the pod and he fell. On a flat surface like the Geonosis hangar bay, that would not have happened.

And transitive property is not allowed here.

Lol, it's logic. Deal with it!

Just because:

Elephant>mouse
mouse>monkey
DOES NOT MEAN elephant>monkey

because there is no way the elephant is greater than the monkey.

😆 Er....well if it actually made sense I would argue this.....

Originally posted by Alliance
Unfortunately it is mathematical fact that if A>B and B>C then A>C.

Nice try though. Here in the Republic we still use logic.

Well, then I guess it is a good thing I am with the Confederacy and far away from your pitiful little Republic

Yes...the one that kicks your ass.

Originally posted by Alliance
Yes...the one that kicks your ass.

Not true, if the war were to continue and Sidious were to not hae the droids shut down, the CIS would have destroyed the Republic. There were just too many droids and not enough clones.

Originally posted by General Kenobl
It was not a neutral setting and it was clearly biased against Yoda. I mean, people say Yoda lost, however, he only lost because the Force of reflecting Sidious's lightning pushed him from the pod and he fell. On a flat surface like the Geonosis hangar bay, that would not have happened.

But you do admit he lost

Originally posted by General G
Not true, if the war were to continue and Sidious were to not hae the droids shut down, the CIS would have destroyed the Republic. There were just too many droids and not enough clones.

*yawn*

Excuses. We won.

Originally posted by Alliance
*yawn*

Excuses. We won.

Nope, the EMPIRE won, the Republic lost.

no, the "Empire" was declared after the end of the war.

Besides, a changing a term was no eal distiction.