Real Physics Vs. Comic Physics

Started by Alfheim4 pages
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Well sure people can push themselves but they can only go so far

Maybe. We shall see what humans can do when they combine science with meditation.

Originally posted by Alfheim
*sigh* im not saying that I think people can fly or there are reptiles. What im saying is there are some people who can push themselves beyond normal human capability. I havent seen anybody fly but I have seen stuff that could be considered to be supernatural.

http://www.randi.org/research/index.html

Then I bet you could use an extra million dollars

not to mention every significant scientific award, and probably notoriety for thousands of years akin to what Einstein, Newton or Aristotle have earned.

Originally posted by Alfheim
*sigh* im not saying that I think people can fly or there are reptiles. What im saying is there are some people who can push themselves beyond normal human capability. I havent seen anybody fly but I have seen stuff that could be considered to be supernatural.
Im pretty sure reptiles exist and how about some evidence to back up your claims?

Originally posted by inamilist
http://www.randi.org/research/index.html

Then I bet you could use an extra million dollars

not to mention every significant scientific award, and probably notoriety for thousands of years akin to what Einstein, Newton or Aristotle have earned.

I can see where this is heading, im just going to leave it here, your probably going to start insulting me like you did last time.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Maybe. We shall see what humans can do when they combine science with meditation.

Sam Harris and his colleagues are already looking into this with help from the Dali Lama and other monks.

They have found amazing insight into how to live a happy life, how to be content and other existential things to do with the human condition. They have also made amazing discoveries that will help define consciousness. It is VERY important for us to be researching meditation and the ideals that lead Buddhists to have different neural connections and density due to their behaviour.

HOWEVER. There will never be anything close to what you are claiming. Mind over matter is BS.

Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Depends on your universe. DC tends to forget physics completely sometimes, whereas Marvel will apply it nine times out of ten, as will Wildstorm.

I say it's a flexible prospect.

I'm sorry mate, but that isn't entirely true, D.C. on the whole are far better at applying pseudo physics than Marvel. Its a misconception that a lot of people have. Although the two are as bad as each other. IMO, Warren Ellis is the only guy who is any good at introducing any real science into Super hero comics. Morison is not bad, although he usually prefers using Wacky ideas without dealing with the consequences. The Flashes Infinite mass punch is the best example of this.

Originally posted by don't shiv
comic physics are what "real" physics could be if man tapped the full potential of his mind.

Einstein at most used 11% or so of his brain capacity.

in asia there are people who demonstrate mind over matter abilities
youknowwhatimsayindontcha'

You are young and naive, and have probably watched Akira too many times.

Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
You are young and naive, and have probably watched Akira too many times.

whats wrong with Akira?

Originally posted by Magee
Im pretty sure reptiles exist and how about some evidence to back up your claims?

I saw a Qi gong master practcing the empty force. One minute he was standing still the next minute he lost his balance and went flying into a wall. Considering nobody pushed him there must have been some force that did it.

I can heal faster than I used to be there are some specific injuries I have problems healing. For example I used to have an eye infection where I would need to use antibiotics. Now all I have to do is focus on the eye to get rid of it. Well you asked!

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/342190_1-what-are-humans-capable-of-if-we-were-to-use-100-of-our-brain-capacity

It has been debated, and a concensus reached.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
whats wrong with Akira?

Good film, bad science !

Originally posted by Doctor S.T.D.
Good film, bad science !

Awesome film and awesome fictional science.

All this talk of brain capacity got me thinking. If we COULD control the remaining parts of our brain (Note : Usage and control are two very different things) then would we become Deathstroke lites ?

Originally posted by grey fox
Awesome film and awesome [b]fictional science.

All this talk of brain capacity got me thinking. If we COULD control the remaining parts of our brain (Note : Usage and control are two very different things) then would we become Deathstroke lites ? [/B]

Quite possibly yes, Deathstroke Capatin Ammericva esque humans are very possible. Although G.E. will probably be involved.

Well it depends. When you see Hyperion crashing into the north pole and saying "I caused one teraton of damage" then you have a solid real world basis to go on.

However when you see Hulk punching through a time - storm.... then you're on your own.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well it depends. When you see Hyperion crashing into the north pole and saying "I caused one teraton of damage" then you have a solid real world basis to go on.

However when you see Hulk punching through a time - storm.... then you're on your own.

Sorry, i didn't really understand what u are getting at ?

Originally posted by Alfheim

I can heal faster than I used to be there are some specific injuries I have problems healing. For example I used to have an eye infection where I would need to use antibiotics. Now all I have to do is focus on the eye to get rid of it. Well you asked!

Originally posted by grey fox
Awesome film and awesome [b]fictional science.

All this talk of brain capacity got me thinking. If we COULD control the remaining parts of our brain (Note : Usage and control are two very different things) then would we become Deathstroke lites ? [/B]

Here is where it all gets really sticky 🙂

Meditation, as it is hypothesized, may increase the awareness one has of their own neural processes. So, some scientists even today are proposing that through intense meditation, you are able to build neural connections between the parts of your brain responsible for consciousness and other parts... Unfortunately I don't know too much more about this.

Other cool research along these lines has been done including: If you are surrounded by people who you like versus people who you don't, you will metabolize more nutrients from your food. Also, I think they may have even done this at my lab 😉 (a couple of years ago before I got the photocopy guy job 😛) they found that even just the act of thinking about exercising your thumb can cause an increase in its strength. Not nearly as much as someone who really did the thumb exercise, but much more than those who did neither.

It does seem like certain conscious processes can stimulate neural connections. The extent of this is really unknown, however, I would think there are lots of things that we wouldn't want conscious control over. Regulation of heartbeat or of homeostasis would be almost useless for us to control, as would our equilibrium. However, being able to consciously take control of our Working memory or other attention based resources could probably enable us to process things faster. Thats an opinion that I can't back up by anything other than saying it makes sense.

As for the Qi gong master flying back into a wall. Energy fields explains it, as far as I know everything has an electromagnetic field. When you meditate you tap into it. For example when I meditate my temperatue increases eventhough im not even moving.

Re: Real Physics Vs. Comic Physics

Originally posted by ThePittman
Well for any that have debated with me you know that I like to use real physics to back up some of my claims in comic debates. However some people say that you can’t use real physics to do this because comics do not follow them. However IMO most of these debates would be pointless with out some type of reference for the level of power that they wield because they don’t give exact descriptions of their powers. We have seen Superman go all out with his heat vision but it doesn’t say how hot it is so we see what he destroyed and what it would take to destroy the target to get the level of heat, the only way to do that is by real physics.

What is the general thought on this?

Real World Science and Comics Science do not mix. It's not just Physics, but Chemistry and Biology are incredibly dubious when applied to comics characters. The worst forums in the known internet for trying to use dubious claculations are Stardestroyer.net A Star Wars forum, and the fantastic Spacebattles.com. Both of which have a generally older and more educated membership than KMC comics forums. Some of the members there try and calculate things like the power of a turbo laser in mega tonnes based on onscreen estimations of the size of an asteroid. Perhaps the funniest was the estimations of density for a culture orbital 😖hifty: someone did to confuse people. The calculations were right but the density was was similar to balsa wood and noone noticed 😖hifty:.

Originally posted by By Crom!
Real World Science and Comics Science do not mix. It's not just Physics, but Chemistry and Biology are incredibly dubious when applied to comics characters. The worst forums in the known internet for trying to use dubious claculations are Stardestroyer.net A Star Wars forum, and the fantastic Spacebattles.com. Both of which have a generally older and more educated membership than KMC comics forums. Some of the members there try and calculate things like the power of a turbo laser in mega tonnes based on onscreen estimations of the size of an asteroid. Perhaps the funniest was the estimations of density for a culture orbital 😖hifty: someone did to confuse people. The calculations were right but the density was was similar to balsa wood and noone noticed 😖hifty:.
Well if you don’t have a base for a power of weapon then how can you say it will do something that hasn’t happened in the comics?

Originally posted by ThePittman
Well if you don’t have a base for a power of weapon then how can you say it will do something that hasn’t happened in the comics?

~Sentry~ cough cough !