Who Gets Your Vote For Worst Rock Guitarist?

Started by BobbyD4 pages

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

When he writes a song that is void of complete technical wankery and...regular wankery, we can talk.

-AC

But, that's not what this thread is about, AC.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
I can play every green day song I have tried to learn and I can't play any of malmsteens. Songs that consist solely on simple power cords and basic cords may sound nice but require no skill to write or play.

You man not like Yinggay’s lifeless playing but that doesn’t change the fact that his classical scales are some of the hardest and fastest in the world; while green days power cords can be done by a 8 year old.

Just because something is simple it does not make it bad, just as something being the "hardest and fastest" does not make it good.

kirk hammett

yeah, i said it.

Originally posted by Lana
Just because something is simple it does not make it bad, just as something being the "hardest and fastest" does not make it good.

Indeed. But no one here can discount Malmsteen's talent. That's the point. Now if worst guitarist also means more than perhaps it can be opened up to interpretation.

When someone asks me who I think the worst guitarist is, I think of someone other than me, who actually went somewhere in real life and made money off of his poor guitar playing. I don't necessarily want to just single out Mick Mars, but he's the first to come to mind.

He plays stuff beginners learn on their first day of lessons.😬

Originally posted by BobbyD
Indeed. But no one here can discount Malmsteen's talent. That's the point.

Thing is, though, you could have all the talent in the world and still play like shit.

after just a few weeks of playing guitar I learned Brain stew one of there most popular songs.

|-7-7--5-5--4-4--3-3-2-2-|-7-7--5-5--4-4--3-3-3-3-2-2-2-2-
|-7-7--5-5--4-4--3-3-2-2-|-7-7--5-5--4-4--3-3-3-3-2-2-2-2-
|-5-5--3-3--2-2--1-1-0-0-|-5-5--3-3--2-2--1-1-1-1-0-0-0-0-

so simple it hurts but still a cool song.

Originally posted by Lana
Thing is, though, you could have all the talent in the world and still play like shit.

Now that would be a waste of a gift. 🙁

Originally posted by Lana
Thing is, though, you could have all the talent in the world and still play like shit.

No if you play like shit you have no talent. Most people just don't like what yngwie plays. But yngwie can play almost anything if he wanted to. He could play Paige, Hendrix, Clapton, bb king, and most anyone else’s music if he wanted to. But the guitar play for green day couldn't replicate the greats all he can do is make power cords that sound better than yungwie music.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
No if you play like shit you have no talent. Most people just don't like what yngwie plays. But yngwie can play almost anything if he wanted to. He could play Paige, Hendrix, Clapton, bb king, and most anyone else’s music if he wanted to. But the guitar play for green day couldn't replicate the greats all he can do is make power cords that sound better than yungwie music.

Correct. Not liking one's music is entirely different than saying one stinks.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
No if you play like shit you have no talent. Most people just don't like what yngwie plays. But yngwie can play almost anything if he wanted to. He could play Paige, Hendrix, Clapton, bb king, and most anyone else’s music if he wanted to. But the guitar play for green day couldn't replicate the greats all he can do is make power cords that sound better than yungwie music.

Nobody is saying he isn't a good guitarist, technically.

Creatively he sucks.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Nobody is saying he isn't a good guitarist, technically.

Creatively he sucks.

-AC

But his technical skills are good enough that there is no way he should be on any worst guitarist list; maybe a worst originality or style list, but not the worst rock guitarist list.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
after just a few weeks of playing guitar I learned Brain stew one of there most popular songs.

|-7-7--5-5--4-4--3-3-2-2-|-7-7--5-5--4-4--3-3-3-3-2-2-2-2-
|-7-7--5-5--4-4--3-3-2-2-|-7-7--5-5--4-4--3-3-3-3-2-2-2-2-
|-5-5--3-3--2-2--1-1-0-0-|-5-5--3-3--2-2--1-1-1-1-0-0-0-0-

so simple it hurts but still a cool song.

Do you really need a tab for that?

Originally posted by el_barto
Do you really need a tab for that?

After only one week of playing yes I sadly did. But I wouldn't need it now.

Originally posted by dirkdirden
But his technical skills are good enough that there is no way he should be on any worst guitarist list; maybe a worst originality or style list, but not the worst rock guitarist list.

he makes crap music...crap rock music...hence he's a crap rock guitarist

i didn't doubt his talent and i mentioned it when i brought him up

but playing stupidly fast arpeggio's doesn't make for good rock guitar music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjEnCbc0HVc

see...sounds like shit

Originally posted by jaden101
he makes crap music...crap rock music...hence he's a crap rock guitarist

i didn't doubt his talent and i mentioned it when i brought him up

I'm confused. I'm thinking that those 2 statements cannot exist mutually exclusive of each other.

You're saying he's either a bad guitarist, or he makes bad music.

They're two different things.

Hes a bad rock guitarist because he makes bad rock music.

Originally posted by PVS
kirk hammett

yeah, i said it.

Totally agree there. I've said that for years and always been shot down for it. He's the weakest link in Metallica. Too much wah and not enough thought.

Originally posted by RedAlertv2
Hes a bad rock guitarist because he makes bad rock music.

Well, if he chooses to play crap, that is his perogative. But we all know better. He is not a bad guitarist. To suggest otherwise is silly.

Originally posted by amity75
Totally agree there. I've said that for years and always been shot down for it. He's the weakest link in Metallica. Too much wah and not enough thought.

I'd have never come up with him. Are his dificiences hidden/covered up by the band's overall talent?

Jeepers, Metallica rocks. But, it could be that I like them so much that I've never noticed. 😖

Originally posted by BobbyD
I'm confused. I'm thinking that those 2 statements cannot exist mutually exclusive of each other.

You're saying he's either a bad guitarist, or he makes bad music.

They're two different things.

Hes a bad rock guitarist because he makes bad rock music.

there you go...not that tough really is it?

it could be argued that jose gonzalez is a decent guitarist...and he has some talent...but most likely...given what he plays...that he is also a crap rock guitarist...the difference being he doesn't play rock music

malmsteen tries and fails miserably to play rock music...

where as when he plays his classical stuff with a full orchestra...it actually sounds quite good except that he uses a pick instead of finger picking...