Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
yes . . . I . . . have . . . but . . . that . . . is . . . not . . . relevant . . . to . . . this . . . threaddon't quote willy wonka 馃檪
then you wouldve understood that what i said wasnt limited to this thread...kind of, because it concerns dr. strange...
and since you said yes then i fail to register the purpose of your rebuttal... 馃槙
**swoosh**
Originally posted by long pigWait, Eternity is like Warlock's best friend.
Well, let's see:Strange's soul is protected by Eternity, so no soul stealing. Strange can counter the soul gem with his own artifact.
With that out of the way, I don't recall Adam being immune to time manipulation. A click of his fingers and Adam is stuck in a time freeze.
Also, Warlock is outside the loop of destiny. Would time really work on him?
Plus, why doesn't Strange just do that to everyone in comics then?
Originally posted by bigbran
Wait, Eternity is like Warlock's best friend.
Would he protect Strange's soul from Warlock?Also, Warlock is outside the loop of destiny. Would time really work on him?
Plus, why doesn't Strange just do that to everyone in comics then?
He's out of the loop of destiny, I don't think he's out of the loop of time itself.
Are you seriously asking me why Strange doesn't beat nearly every enemy by using time attacks? You realize his comic wouldn't be but two pages if he fought bloodlusted. Can't sell a two page comic.
Originally posted by bigbran
Wait, Eternity is like Warlock's best friend.
Would he protect Strange's soul from Warlock?Also, Warlock is outside the loop of destiny. Would time really work on him?
Plus, why doesn't Strange just do that to everyone in comics then?
Eternity hates Warlock.
No
Some of Strange's opponents may be beyond time. 馃槈
Originally posted by long pigStill... when was this?
Best friend? How about worst enemy. Eternity wants him dead because he killed his son.He's out of the loop of destiny, I don't think he's out of the loop of time itself.
Are you seriously asking me why Strange doesn't beat nearly every enemy by using time attacks? You realize his comic wouldn't be but two pages if he fought bloodlusted. Can't sell a two page comic.
He was in a blank space, where there was no Eternity, or Infinity...
You could very well sell one, but not a series.
Also, he is more than likely not going to use a time attack in this battle.
Originally posted by bigbran
Still... when was this?He was in a blank space, where there was no Eternity, or Infinity...
You could very well sell one, but not a series.
Also, he is more than likely not going to use a time attack in this battle.
A while back in Warlock's comic.
Sure, he probably can go into a place outside of reality, it doesn't mean he lives there. Strange can go outside reality as well.
Not in the comic, no. Here? Yes.
Originally posted by long pigOK.
A while back in Warlock's comic.Sure, he probably can go into a place outside of reality, it doesn't mean he lives there. Strange can go outside reality as well.
Not in the comic, no. Here? Yes.
Isn't Strange also not vunerable to time attacks? So, how do you work this in as stopping time as a way for him to win?
No one has claimed that Warlock was going to stop time.
Here? No. Compare the times that Strange has stopped time in a fight, to the time he has just blasted, and used spells.
Here, the guys are in character.
He might use it.
Also, that is if they work on him.
I agree with Strange being able to do more with prep than Warlock, but that is if and only if his benefactors lend their support. Their soul-meld arguably allowed Warlock access to Strange's knowledge and thus he should be prepared for Strange's more exotic magical applications. True, the soul-meld may have been a two-way process, but Warlock is to souls what Strange is to magic. There is little to point to the fact that Strange could read Warlock like the latter could do to Strange.
As for Eternity hating Warlock, what would that have to do with this battle? If Strange could call on eternity in his battles then there would be no need for Strange threads at all. Additionally, Warlock is the cosmic go-to guy for Marvel, and like it or not, I think Eternity would have to settle for Warlock being a necessary evil to him.
As stated, time may not work on Warlock due to the special circumstances that surround him. On the other hand, a soul rip is much more likely to affect Strange, without Eternity protecting his soul, and with none of his artifacts being able to fully counteract the soul gem.
All factors aside, Strange is still a human, and in a battle without prep, I just do not see his auto-shields saving him from the get-go for a majority. I can understand him taking a split or even a nice majority with prep, but not without.
Originally posted by Wally WestWell there you go.
Rune used the time gem to stop time and freeze the Infinity Watch. It worked on everyone except Warlock.
Originally posted by OualladaI agree.
I agree with Strange being able to do more with prep than Warlock, but that is if and only if his benefactors lend their support. Their soul-meld arguably allowed Warlock access to Strange's knowledge and thus he should be prepared for Strange's more exotic magical applications. True, the soul-meld may have been a two-way process, but Warlock is to souls what Strange is to magic. There is little to point to the fact that Strange could read Warlock like the latter could do to Strange.As for Eternity hating Warlock, what would that have to do with this battle? If Strange could call on eternity in his battles then there would be no need for Strange threads at all. Additionally, Warlock is the cosmic go-to guy for Marvel, and like it or not, I think Eternity would have to settle for Warlock being a necessary evil to him.
As stated, time may not work on Warlock due to the special circumstances that surround him. On the other hand, a soul rip is much more likely to affect Strange, without Eternity protecting his soul, and with none of his artifacts being able to fully counteract the soul gem.
All factors aside, Strange is still a human, and in a battle without prep, I just do not see his auto-shields saving him from the get-go for a majority. I can understand him taking a split or even a nice majority with prep, but not without.
Warlock seems to be outside the influence of ANY Concept, according to Eternity.
According to Master Order and Lord Chaos:
According to the Living Tribunal himself ALL Six Infinity Watch members are beyond Eternity's influence:
And evidently Warlock is beyond Eternity's (Time) influence, but also beyond the Infinity's Gem's (Time Gem) greater control over Time as well:
RUNE acquires the Time Gem first from Maxim, and from there it's easy pickings as he stops Time, and everything freezes:
He gets the rest of the Gems with little effort, except when he bumps into Warlock who resisted the "Time Freeze" effect of the Gem.
Warlock manages to send himself and Rune into Soul World
No one is Time Freezing Warlock.
Better find another tactic.
Originally posted by bigbran
OK.Isn't Strange also not vunerable to time attacks? So, how do you work this in as stopping time as a way for him to win?
No one has claimed that Warlock was going to stop time.Here? No. Compare the times that Strange has stopped time in a fight, to the time he has just blasted, and used spells.
Here, the guys are in character.
He might use it.Also, that is if they work on him.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Warlock seems to be outside the influence of ANY Concept, according to Eternity.According to Master Order and Lord Chaos:
According to the Living Tribunal himself ALL Six Infinity Watch members are beyond Eternity's influence:
And evidently Warlock is beyond Eternity's (Time) influence, but also beyond the Infinity's Gem's (Time Gem) greater control over Time as well:
RUNE acquires the Time Gem first from Maxim, and from there it's easy pickings as he stops Time, and everything freezes:
He gets the rest of the Gems with little effort, except when he bumps into Warlock who resisted the "Time Freeze" effect of the Gem.
Warlock manages to send himself and Rune into Soul World
No one is Time Freezing Warlock.
Better find another tactic.
I could be wrong.
Other than that, yeah...I'm out of ideas.
umm yeah right, his artifact cant counter the gem forever can it, so what basically with prep he can defeat anyone, ok thats lame someone said he defeated HOM wanda, whatever i dont see how since she still was able to deplete the mutant population by so so very much.
Then someone said he stalemated the IG supposidly only cause warlock wasnt going all out, if he can do that i guess the whole thanos thing was pointless, he should have just gone alone instead of letting his fellow heros get slaughtered.
reason strange can do so much is cause he got like 3 super entities backing him up, the vishanti, but i dont believe there invincible nor is he, if adam warlock gets time to learn how to use the gem properly then strange will eventually be overcome and lose.
