Originally posted by fangirl101Your logic is flawed. You apply an analogy where you just change the scope of his intentions. On the other side of the coin, using your analogy, you would say it's not in Imperiex's aim to kill 10 specific people in the universe.
well using that logic, one can say it's not imperiex's aim to destroy the multiverse. he only kills one universe at a time. you understand where i'm going with this?
No it's not his aim to kill 10 people or ten billion people. It's not his aim to destroy the multiverse, nor is it his aim to destroy the atoms that comprise batman's piss. His aim is destroy the entire universe to remake in his image. Specific scale, specific scope, specific purpose. Flawed logic.
So again, his true intentions are: to correct the flaws of the universe and remake it in his image. Logically, if that somehow meant that he would have to destroy the multiverse so that he could remake the universe in his image, then he would have tried to do so.
Galactu's true intentions are to fulfill his role in the cosmic balance, which ensures the natural continuity and existence of the universe. Galactus' intentions and Imperiex's intentions are mutually exclusive and incompatible.
Originally posted by fangirl101Again, flawed logic. Odin has demonstrated feats that make him >>> supes at every single level of power. We've seen superman die in battle, exerting all his effort. We know what he is when he goes all out. When supes goes all out, he's <<<<<<<<<<< Odin.
so then we can say until we superman go all out on the universe, it's easy to say odin is his superior. but the way superman is written he can at any time be odin lvl. NOT. until it happens, it hasn't happened. this is the fundamental basis of how you debate comics. anything else is speculation and wishful thinking.
Originally posted by fangirl101
um galactus was fully fed by the fantastic four's grandson. they didnt' seem to destroy or remake any universe. it was a never ending loop. galactus is no more a peer of imperiex than superman is a peer of galactus.
Hyperstorm had limitless access to hyperspace...he compared himself to cosmic entities more than other "street level" characters. Galactus has also returned, and Hyperstorm remains MIA, which means he was not fully fed, but rather took what he wanted from hyperstorm, and then got out.
Galactus contains a universe within him. Detonating Galactus from within would result in a blast sufficient to destroy the marvel 616 universe and the negative zone, effectively two universes.
This is also not even mentioning the entire black celestial arc, where mr. master, myself, utrigita, and others have already explained over and over how it's within Galactus' capability to consume to the point of devouring space-time itself, geometrically increasing his powers.
We also haven't even addressed the nature of Imperiex. He's energy incarnate, much like Hyperstorm. Cracking Imperiex's armor allows those energies to run rampant, much like Galactus himself. The difference is Imperiex has never demonstrated any feats that grant him the same scope and degree of energy manipulation/abosrtion as Galactus...and that is underscored even more by imperiex's frequent use of tech.
In fact, if we bring tech into the question, the UN can be brought into play at anytime, making the whole debate non-existent.
Originally posted by Tenebrous
Your logic is flawed. You apply an analogy where you just change the scope of his intentions. On the other side of the coin, using your analogy, you would say it's not in Imperiex's aim to kill 10 specific people in the universe.No it's not his aim to kill 10 people or ten billion people. It's not his aim to destroy the multiverse, nor is it his aim to destroy the atoms that comprise batman's piss. His aim is destroy the entire universe to remake in his image. Specific scale, specific scope, specific purpose. Flawed logic.
So again, his true intentions are: to correct the flaws of the universe and remake it in his image. Logically, if that somehow meant that he would have to destroy the multiverse so that he could remake the universe in his image, then he would have tried to do so.
Galactu's true intentions are to fulfill his role in the cosmic balance, which ensures the natural continuity and existence of the universe. Galactus' intentions and Imperiex's intentions are mutually exclusive and incompatible.
Again, flawed logic. Odin has demonstrated feats that make him >>> supes at every single level of power. We've seen superman die in battle, exerting all his effort. We know what he is when he goes all out. When supes goes all out, he's <<<<<<<<<<< Odin.Hyperstorm had limitless access to hyperspace...he compared himself to cosmic entities more than other "street level" characters. Galactus has also returned, and Hyperstorm remains MIA, which means he was not fully fed, but rather took what he wanted from hyperstorm, and then got out.
Galactus contains a universe within him. Detonating Galactus from within would result in a blast sufficient to destroy the marvel 616 universe and the negative zone, effectively two universes.
This is also not even mentioning the entire black celestial arc, where mr. master, myself, utrigita, and others have already explained over and over how it's within Galactus' capability to consume to the point of devouring space-time itself, geometrically increasing his powers.
We also haven't even addressed the nature of Imperiex. He's energy incarnate, much like Hyperstorm. Cracking Imperiex's armor allows those energies to run rampant, much like Galactus himself. The difference is Imperiex has never demonstrated any feats that grant him the same scope and degree of energy manipulation/abosrtion as Galactus...and that is underscored even more by imperiex's frequent use of tech.
In fact, if we bring tech into the question, the UN can be brought into play at anytime, making the whole debate non-existent.
Nice post, so in your opinion would Doomsday, be able to go a few rounds with Galactus as Tyrant was able to?
If Galactus battled Doomsday, would their battle threaten to destroy an entire universe?
Lastly... if Tyrant at his most powerful, went all out on Doomsday, would it be a good fight or a stomp?
Originally posted by fangirl101Fc Darkseid may be around Galactus level but not classic Darkseid.
and it's implied that darksied operates on a lvl of power around galactus lvl. then doomsday beating up on darky would imply what? Implications mean little without some shred of proof. not pissy. fg101.
Originally posted by Tenebrous
Your logic is flawed. You apply an analogy where you just change the scope of his intentions. On the other side of the coin, using your analogy, you would say it's not in Imperiex's aim to kill 10 specific people in the universe.No it's not his aim to kill 10 people or ten billion people. It's not his aim to destroy the multiverse, nor is it his aim to destroy the atoms that comprise batman's piss. His aim is destroy the entire universe to remake in his image. Specific scale, specific scope, specific purpose. Flawed logic.
So again, his true intentions are: to correct the flaws of the universe and remake it in his image. Logically, if that somehow meant that he would have to destroy the multiverse so that he could remake the universe in his image, then he would have tried to do so.
Galactu's true intentions are to fulfill his role in the cosmic balance, which ensures the natural continuity and existence of the universe. Galactus' intentions and Imperiex's intentions are mutually exclusive and incompatible.
Again, flawed logic. Odin has demonstrated feats that make him >>> supes at every single level of power. We've seen superman die in battle, exerting all his effort. We know what he is when he goes all out. When supes goes all out, he's <<<<<<<<<<< Odin.Hyperstorm had limitless access to hyperspace...he compared himself to cosmic entities more than other "street level" characters. Galactus has also returned, and Hyperstorm remains MIA, which means he was not fully fed, but rather took what he wanted from hyperstorm, and then got out.
Galactus contains a universe within him. Detonating Galactus from within would result in a blast sufficient to destroy the marvel 616 universe and the negative zone, effectively two universes.
This is also not even mentioning the entire black celestial arc, where mr. master, myself, utrigita, and others have already explained over and over how it's within Galactus' capability to consume to the point of devouring space-time itself, geometrically increasing his powers.
We also haven't even addressed the nature of Imperiex. He's energy incarnate, much like Hyperstorm. Cracking Imperiex's armor allows those energies to run rampant, much like Galactus himself. The difference is Imperiex has never demonstrated any feats that grant him the same scope and degree of energy manipulation/abosrtion as Galactus...and that is underscored even more by imperiex's frequent use of tech.
In fact, if we bring tech into the question, the UN can be brought into play at anytime, making the whole debate non-existent.
all of this and galactus in the 616 still hasn't destroyed or created a univese. fangirl101.
Originally posted by fangirl101
all of this and galactus in the 616 still hasn't destroyed or created a univese. fangirl101.
so in your opinion would Doomsday, be able to go a few rounds with Galactus as Tyrant was able to?
If Galactus battled Doomsday, would their battle threaten to destroy an entire universe?
Lastly... if Tyrant at his most powerful, went all out on Doomsday, would it be a good fight or a stomp?
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
so in your opinion would Doomsday, be able to go a few rounds with Galactus as Tyrant was able to?If Galactus battled Doomsday, would their battle threaten to destroy an entire universe?
Lastly... if Tyrant at his most powerful, went all out on Doomsday, would it be a good fight or a stomp?
Originally posted by fangirl101
I do not believe tyrant to be a threat to galactus. so your example isn't good to me. tyrant used tech and preparation to fight galactus. in the first fight, he lost, hence why he was depowered. fangirl101.
In Tyrants first appearance it was stated on panel that he and Galactus fought before, and their battle ripped an entire universe apart... why are you running from the questions that were asked of you? Would a battle that rocked the universe be too much for Doomsday to handle? Yes or No?
Originally posted by fangirl101
all of this and galactus in the 616 still hasn't destroyed or created a univese. fangirl101.
You have no point in your post. Make and articulate arguments. Tell me, why would Imperiex what to become a Green Lantern, or turn himself into a mortal, or create a planet?
Galactus has destroyed a universe before, by using his tech (UN).
Originally posted by CaptainStoic
Nice post, so in your opinion would Doomsday, be able to go a few rounds with Galactus as Tyrant was able to?If Galactus battled Doomsday, would their battle threaten to destroy an entire universe?
Lastly... if Tyrant at his most powerful, went all out on Doomsday, would it be a good fight or a stomp?
In my opinion, Galactus would toy with Doomsday. Doomsday's power comes came about by an extremely accelerated process of natural selection; the baby that would become Doomsday was killed and reborn over and over and over so that by genetic mutation and evolution, Doomsday would be immune to what killed him before. So basically, through hyper-accelerated evolution, selectively promoting strong genes and weeding out weak ones, Doomsday is able to come back from anything that killed him previously.
All Galactus has to do is molecularly rearrange Doomsday's DNA so that all those countless stages of evolution are erased. This is pretty much the same as Galactus turning off the X-gene in any mutant, and Doomsday is, by strict and logical definition, a mutant.
Either that, or G gives Doomsday a portion of the Power Cosmic, and turns him into a beast of an un-heralded (pun intended) scale.
Tyrant at his most powerful was as large as a prepped and fed Galactus, and drew "blood" from Galactus. He ultimately lost the battle...but was clearly operating on a scale of cosmic entity. Doomsday is a tank, but he's no where near a cosmic entity level.
Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Not really.Thanos only speculated...
In Tyrants first appearance Galactus himself stated that a battle between him, and Tyrant would lay waste to the universe, which is why he decided not to take Morg back.
Tyrant by his own admission stated that they had fought in the past.
Thanos' statement was in fact true.