i would agree if Ryu can toast people alive and have enough power to vaporize people. according to KoF Kyo, the kusanagi flames can render the opponent to a pile of ash (no puns intended) if the weilder doesn't control himself. also powerwise, Kyo was able to send Orochi a god to lalaland. Ryu couldn't even defeat Sagat. now don't tell me you guys think that Sagat is stronger than Orochi do you?
nonetheless this will be a great fight. Kyo though finishes it with an orochinagi and makes a philly cheese stake out of Ryu!
~The INvincible Sado-sama
Originally posted by Sado22No it wont, this fight will be a walk in the park, I mean Kyo will put up a fight but not enough to notice. Kyo's flames aint that hot they burn but not that good cause Iori still kicks his ass nearly unscathed. Let's see Kyo last more than 30 minutes with Ken if that long. I still respect Kyo though, maybe when he's like 40 he'll win. Kyo is still bad ass, a true blue King Of Fighters!
i would agree if Ryu can toast people alive and have enough power to vaporize people. according to KoF Kyo, the kusanagi flames can render the opponent to a pile of ash (no puns intended) if the weilder doesn't control himself. also powerwise, Kyo was able to send Orochi a god to lalaland. Ryu couldn't even defeat Sagat. now don't tell me you guys think that Sagat is stronger than Orochi do you?nonetheless this will be a great fight. Kyo though finishes it with an orochinagi and makes a philly cheese stake out of Ryu!
~The INvincible Sado-sama
Kyo's flames aint that hot they burn but not that good cause Iori still kicks his ass nearly unscathed.
Let's see Kyo last more than 30 minutes with Ken if that long.
I still respect Kyo though, maybe when he's like 40 he'll win. Kyo is still bad ass, a true blue King Of Fighters!
~The Invincible Sado-sama
*cough* liar *cough* 😛 You said that just to dig at Brainchild, didn't you? 😆 Kyo is enormously overrated. The Orochi win does not count due to that being a plot device win. It's not Kyo's power, it's the fact that he's a kusanagi with the flames. And Sagat would WTFPWN Kyo. And in case you're wondering, he'd beat Ryu too. Though it would be very close. Crouching fierce ftw. 👆
Oh, and Ken would would beat Kyo too, but not as badly as Ryu.
Originally posted by Sado22Kyo's flames can not burn his opponents to ash. No one he ever fought has been burned that badly,
two things here remulus:
-Iori never kicked his ass decisively enough. most of their fights have only ended in stalemates, save the KoFXI one. Iori holds the upperhand is something that the general fandom seems to agree on and was proven right by KoFXI.
-Iori doesn't get toased because a) he has the same natural resistance to flames that Kyo does. as it is Iori's flames are hotter than Kyos so he has more resistence to them. b) i said kusanagi can burn people to ash when fully unleashed and for that Kyo needs to go beserker.
Originally posted by Sado22Ken has WAY more experience than Kyo, he's been fighting since he was a kid and he is far older than Kyo. Ken will also kick the crap out of Iori. You musn't have seen Ken's Shoryuken in the Alpha movie, It has been officialy stated by Capcom that Ken can kill with his Shoryuken. Kyo winning means he can go toe toe toe with Ryu and last a long time. He can survive in a one on one fight with Bison and he can win the U.S. martial arts chamoion chips several time in a row and win the final round in 30 seconds or be near Gill level. Kyo doesn't stand a snow balls chance in hell. You know why Ryu and Ken haven't beat guys like Bison or Gouki, because Capcom doesn't Job. If Capcom makes a God like character he's gonna remain that way. He's not gonna get beat by 1 single character just becuase he's the star unlike KOF, unfortunately.
Ken has no hope against Kyo. saying that would mean Ken can beat Iori which is a definitive HELL NO. Not only does Kyo have more experience, he also has better competition, better acclodates and better chin. Ken has yet to beat a single hightier. His only notable wins are against an unfocused Ryu, Sakura, Karin and sean. that's a shitty record. tell me Ken can KO Orochi, hold his own against things like Ignitz, go toe to toe with the most badass mofo in 2D fighting history (Iori), survive godtiers and take down a GOD with a punch. not to mention how one blast by Kyo made the whole NEST base crumble in KoF99 and how he took down Krizalid (a KoF hightier) with ONE move. also Kyo took on Orochi Chris and beat him during the big fight of KoF97 and O.Chris is godtier like Geonitz. Also not a single move of Ken can even compare to mu-shiki.
no hope for Ken Masters people. NO HOPE.
Originally posted by Sado22He's A King of Fighters not THE King of fighters. He's king in his own universe but if he was sent to the SF universe he'd see that being the star of the game means nothing. Kyo would actualy have to put in work or else he'd be shit out of luck. Kyo would be in mid average tier if he went to SF.
So a King of fighters is nothing in front of a street fighter?🙂
I like Ken a lot too man. He was the first favorite character of mine when i started playing SF. but in all honesty, he is no where in Kyo's league.~The Invincible Sado-sama
Kyo's flames can not burn his opponents to ash. No one he ever fought has been burned that badly,
Ken has WAY more experience than Kyo, he's been fighting since he was a kid and he is far older than Kyo. Ken will also kick the crap out of Iori. You musn't have seen Ken's Shoryuken in the Alpha movie, It has been officialy stated by Capcom that Ken can kill with his Shoryuken. Kyo winning means he can go toe toe toe with Ryu and last a long time. He can survive in a one on one fight with Bison and he can win the U.S. martial arts chamoion chips several time in a row and win the final round in 30 seconds or be near Gill level. Kyo doesn't stand a snow balls chance in hell. You know why Ryu and Ken haven't beat guys like Bison or Gouki, because Capcom doesn't Job. If Capcom makes a God like character he's gonna remain that way. He's not gonna get beat by 1 single character just becuase he's the star unlike KOF, unfortunately.
He's A King of Fighters not THE King of fighters. He's king in his own universe but if he was sent to the SF universe he'd see that being the star of the game means nothing. Kyo would actualy have to put in work or else he'd be shit out of luck. Kyo would be in mid average tier if he went to SF.
*cough* liar *cough* You said that just to dig at Brainchild, didn't you? Kyo is enormously overrated. The Orochi win does not count due to that being a plot device win. It's not Kyo's power, it's the fact that he's a kusanagi with the flames. And Sagat would WTFPWN Kyo. And in case you're wondering, he'd beat Ryu too. Though it would be very close. Crouching fierce ftw.
Oh, and Ken would would beat Kyo too, but not as badly as Ryu.
Do you guys know that Kyo's flame is not natural? do you guys know that its an art just like Ryu weilding flames for shinkunetsu hadouken?
kusanagiryu is just an art, much like ansatsuken karate.
i'm telling you this because i'm sick of hearing people say Orochi's defeat was plot device. Kyo and Iori used their skill to defeat Orochi. nothing more. nothing less.
~The Flameweilding Sado-sama
Originally posted by Sado22How do you know Kyo would've toasted them and not just beat the hell out of them? It has been stated that when flame users go berserk they are even weaker.
that's what i'm saying: Kyo doesn't hasn't gone berserker yet...the only time he did was against a duo of Yamazaki and Yashiro but Kagura stopped him. he would've crisped them and Kagura didn't want him to become a murderer and wind up in jail...........especially since Kyo was the main player in the fight against orochi along with Iori.
Originally posted by Sado22Kyo has nearly no experience compared to the most inadequate SF, Ken has way more experience and he's older than 32, he's nearly 40 in SF3. Ken has fought on the streets plenty of times, where do you think most of his fights were at other than the American champion ships. I'd rather be a dojo dork training with Ryu than to be on the streets fighting a bunch of nobodies. Fighting with Ryu is far More intense than beating up on no bodies no matter where it is. Kyo does not even fight if it's not in a KOF tournament unless it's Iori, Ken has fought Ryu, Gouken, Bison, Karin and Sakura, who are not push overs, Urien and countless other fighters, FAR more than Kyo can even dream of.Kyo trained when he was younger but he doesn't train anymore, he just fights and it has been officially stated that he hates putting effort into anything. Ken's nor Shoryuken can kill but no one has ever officially stated that Kyo's flame can. Kyo can only KO Orochi because of a plot device, no more, not of his own power. Ken can KO Orochi. He can not go toe to toe with Ryu, Kyo won all his fights by luck and dumb ass plot devices, not off of skill. Ryu will destroy Kyo.
dude, Ken doesn't have more experience than Kyo. Ken is not even a street fighter. also Ken is 32 in SF3. he and ryu parted ways after sf1. till that point he was only a dojo dork. REAL fighitng is different from dojo training. if you think dojo training does matter however, just know that Kyo has been training in Kusanagi ryu since he was young child all the way till the age of 18. since the age of 18 he's been not only fighting EVERY YEAR in the KoF tournament (save the 99 and 00) but has also been fighting other times. he's been fighitng people like Iori, Terry, Ryo, K', Rugal, Seisyu, Andy etc.
Ken's calibre of opponents is not so great dude. aside from Ryu and Bison, Ken has only fought Sean, Sakura and Karin who are rookies.
also you say Ken can kill with shoryuken.....dude KYO CAN ROAST!
Can Ken KO a god? no.
IMO Kyo can not only go toe-to-toe wtih Ryu he can stalemate with him anyday and if i have to pick a winner i'd definitely say Kyo. i don't care if you call it jobbing..............its impressive and shows Kyo's callibre.
can ken take on Iori and draw with him? no.
can Ken defeat godtiers? no.
can Ken put out hightier kriazalid with ONE MOVE? no.
Originally posted by Sado22No he wont, he'd be in Sakura's tier, no where near Ryu's league. He doesn't even train, his fights revolve around plot devices.
Kyo would definitely be in the league of Ryu. he'd be just like Ryu a third highest tier....or possibly high tier. Kyo's really, really good. you don't become KoF for nothing you know.
Originally posted by Sado22No it was a plot device, those of Kusanangi blood and those who are the sucessors of those who beat Orochi the first time are the only ones who can permanently beat him now, it's all a stupid plot device. Kyo will get crushed by Ryu and Ken. He'll have a hard time beating Sakura.
Ken can never beat Kyo. good fight. yes. beat him...hell to the no baby. Ken is better off taking on rookies and school girls...which is all he does.Do you guys know that Kyo's flame is not natural? do you guys know that its an art just like Ryu wielding flames for shinkunetsu hadouken?
kusanagiryu is just an art, much like ansatsuken karate.
i'm telling you this because i'm sick of hearing people say Orochi's defeat was plot device. Kyo and Iori used their skill to defeat Orochi. nothing more. nothing less.~The Flameweilding Sado-sama
Wow. You were right Ryu always loses when it comes to Sado.
All i can say is it isn't right for Kyo to defeat someone with the RAW power, skill, speed and experience of Ryu. Same goes for Kyo beating on Terry. Even Ken suits the bill.
How do you know Kyo would've toasted them and not just beat the hell out of them? It has been stated that when flame users go berserk they are even weaker.
Kyo has nearly no experience compared to the most inadequate SF, Ken has way more experience and he's older than 32, he's nearly 40 in SF3.
Ken has fought on the streets plenty of times, where do you think most of his fights were at other than the American champion ships.
I'd rather be a dojo dork training with Ryu than to be on the streets fighting a bunch of nobodies. Fighting with Ryu is far More intense than beating up on no bodies no matter where it is. Kyo does not even fight if it's not in a KOF tournament unless it's Iori, Ken has fought Ryu, Gouken, Bison, Karin and Sakura, who are not push overs, Urien and countless other fighters, FAR more than Kyo can even dream of.
Kyo trained when he was younger but he doesn't train anymore, he just fights and it has been officially stated that he hates putting effort into anything. Ken's nor Shoryuken can kill but no one has ever officially stated that Kyo's flame can.
Kyo can only KO Orochi because of a plot device, no more, not of his own power. Ken can KO Orochi. He can not go toe to toe with Ryu, Kyo won all his fights by luck and dumb ass plot devices, not off of skill. Ryu will destroy Kyo.
Ken wont draw with Iori, he'll beat him.
The god tiers of KOF are weaker and more arrogant and are far quicker to underestimate their opponents than SF.
If Kyo put out Kriazalid in one move so can Ken
Can Kyo win the final round of the U.S martial arts championships in 30 seconds? How about NO.
~The Invincible Sado-sama
Fact of the matter is you gravely underestimate Ryu, and that fact makes arguing with you a bit stale and boring to tell the truth. No matter what proof is given Ryu and Ken are cheerleaders who only fight whenever they are out of lipstick to you.
~The Invincible Sinister Sado-sama