ryu (street fighter) vs. kyo (king of fighters)

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Sado22 Restricted

I haven't given up, because I never argued with you in the first place. I simply stated my opinion on Kyo beating on the likes of Ryu, Terry & Ken and that was it. Here take a look at this map: you are arguing with Remu, not me.

i respect your opinion man. i really do. but I have my own as well.
besides i don't think you can deny the fact that I do always bring up reasons to why i think "x" can beat "y".

I think Ryu would win but that's just my opinion.

are you trying to start a fight with cRoudO?
😆

~The Perfectly Rational Sado-sama

Remulous Frisky Wolf Lord

Kyo loses, Their is no way in hell he would last in a fight with Gouki. He will never be able to beat Ken nor Terry , EVER. Ryu and Ken are not in their 30s because they were in their 30s in SF2. I was never arguing, simply debating. You don't really even need feats, you can just play Fatal Fury and SF and know that Kyo can't win, look at his attitude.I hate debating against my favorite characters, even if it is for Ryu and Ken or Terry. Sorry Kyo. He's still my Ace Koon Boon.

brainchild81 Privateer

Kyo can beat Terry. SNK just uses that time-limit crap to keep fans happy.

Originally posted by Sado22
Ken has no hope against Kyo. saying that would mean Ken can beat Iori
No it wouldn't 'cuz Kyo ain't done it yet. I think Ken'd beat Iori more often than not, but it's close.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Kyo is enormously overrated. The Orochi win does not count due to that being a plot device win. It's not Kyo's power, it's the fact that he's a kusanagi with the flames. And Sagat would WTFPWN Kyo. And in case you're wondering, he'd beat Ryu too. Though it would be very close. Crouching fierce ftw. 👆
Oh, and Ken would would beat Kyo too, but not as badly as Ryu.
Ditto. But Kyo's only overrated by a very small amount of people & regardless of what some want Kyo IS a natural. I like him more than most here, but even I admit Kyo is a plot device master. For those who say Ken's nameless opponents in the U.S. tourneys are nothing
Originally posted by Remulous
You know why Ryu and Ken haven't beat guys like Bison or Gouki, because Capcom doesn't Job. If Capcom makes a God like character he's gonna remain that way. He's not gonna get beat by 1 single character just becuase he's the star unlike KOF, unfortunately.
Ditto. Real muthaf**kin talk right there.
Originally posted by Sado22
so now everyone in KoF is a nobody? get real man.
also Kyo fights in non-tournaments as much as Ken...never unless provoked.
and need i remind you that prior to KoF, Kyo also won the national Japan tournament in order to compete in KoF. oh wait i see it coming: kyo fought wankers in Japan but Ken fought really tough people in US even though Ken's opponents are people Capcom hasn't even bothered to name yet.
also while the tournaments for Ken have been farspaced, Kyo fights ANNUALLY. Ken didn't even take part in SF1 but fought in US tournament. Five years later he fought in SF2. Five years later he fought in SF3 and then US championships.
Not only does Kyo fight every years, he has won the first 4, put out the boss with one move in 99, and then two years later put Ignitz out of commition who was a legitimate godtier.
You're talking about Ken fighting Sakura, Bison, Ryu and Sean as a big deal. Try Orochi, Ignitz, Iori, Orochi Iori, Orochi Chris, Geonitz etc. THAT IS FAR MORE BETTER COMPETITION THAN KEN and you know it. now don't tell me that school girls are better competition than godtiers and freaks of nature. In the regular cast you have going toe to toe with legends like Terry Bogard and Ryo Sakazaki and holding his own.

look don't tell me plot device. it is baseless logic. i can turn around and say ken is shown to be almost as good as ryu due to plot device as well (since its obvious that not only is Ken a slacker, he isn't as focused as ryu). i could also tell you that ryu beating akuma in SFA2 (thanx for the headsup Darkstorm) is also plot device since Ryu's training regime is not inhuman like Gouki's nor could he at any rate be powerful enough to blow an island back then (since canonwise SF3 Ryu is as strong as SF1 Evil ryu).
plot device or not.........FACT REMAINS that Kyo KO'd a demon god. Has Ken even been able to KO Ryu yet? no. Has ken beaten a godtier yet? no. has ken beaten high tiers yet? no.
Please keep plot device out of it.

😆Holla @ SNK 'bout that mane. Ken being almost as good as Ryu because he's a naturally gifted athlete. Not Plot device Read his profile. Ken & Kyo are naturals. As far as the KOFers being nobody's, blame SNK for always being stuck so far up the hero's asses

Originally posted by Sado22
possibly he can. Ken fought people in the US tournament that Capcom hasn't even bothered to name. so yeah they were bums from all standards.
Now be sure to apply that to Terrys nameless opponents on the streets of Southtown as well mane.🙂 I'd expect to find better fighters in a tourney though.

Originally posted by Sado22
the people who Kyo fought in the semi and final are the other 2 people of the strongest team in KoF: team Japan.
Goro & Beni ride Kyo's coattails like jockeys mane. How far do they make it w/out him?

P-Geyser Saraya-Jade Maniac

Kyo cannot beat Terry.

lightness Senior Member

beating omega rugal is more impressive than ryu ever did by himself. Ryu just beat sagat because of the dark hadou and a cheap shot

TricksterPriest Renegade Timelord

I'll give you Ryu cheap-shotting Sagat. But you can't use Omega Rugal as a victory for Kyo. Kyo didn't win. Omega Rugal self-destructed, but before that, he was beating the entire KOF 95' roster. To say that Kyo could beat Omega Rugal is ludicrous.

lightness Senior Member

kyo did lasted against goenitz for a long time who beat regular rugal easily. and beat regular rugal fairly. and he came up with a victory against terry

ryu's never really cleanly beat any boss chars canon wise. ryu landed a finishing blow on bison if you can call that a win, after he took on charlie, guile, chunli, sagat, ken, sakura, etc with his psycho drive weakened

brainchild81 Privateer

I've heard Kyo won by time limit against Terry. I guess that means he had him on the ropes. Sucks that SNK hates the idea of Terry being laid the f**k out.

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Kyo cannot beat Terry.
Yeah he can. & Iori'd scorch him to the marrow

Sado22 Restricted

oh man........another huge post to be written by delicate ore-sama. this isn't fiar. cruel world🙁

Kyo loses, Their is no way in hell he would last in a fight with Gouki. He will never be able to beat Ken nor Terry , EVER. Ryu and Ken are not in their 30s because they were in their 30s in SF2. I was never arguing, simply debating. You don't really even need feats, you can just play Fatal Fury and SF and know that Kyo can't win, look at his attitude.I hate debating against my favorite characters, even if it is for Ryu and Ken or Terry. Sorry Kyo. He's still my Ace Koon Boon.

Ken cannot beat Kyo. You still haven't even answered to my post so i guess you have nothing to say (you see trigun?)
Ken was 27 in SF2. Ryu was 28 in SF2. SF3 took place 5 years later. regardless.
Kyo has a 50/50 chance of beating Terry. Possibly more.
Ken has may have a 10% chance.
you wanna debate better be reading to face the heat. moetaru?
*always wanted to say that*

No it wouldn't 'cuz Kyo ain't done it yet. I think Ken'd beat Iori more often than not, but it's close.

name ONE reason why Ken can beat Iori or Kyo. I'm begging you oh respectful fan debator and enlightne this disrespectful videogaming infidel. I beseech thee🙂
Kyo and Ken
power: is there a doubt? the day Ken can use an absolete move to not only kill a boss character but make the whole BASE collapse with him, KO a demongod (Orochi), go toe-to-toe against godtier and stronger than Gouki, Geonitz, go toe-to-toe and take out Orochi Chris who is stronger than Geonitz......then i'll say Ken's stronger. Otherwise, hell to the no. and you know it. oh yeah, that's right, Ken only has four moves to begin with.
stamina: in KoF97, kyo fought and won against Terry's team in the finals, then fought Orochi Iori, then fought the Orochi team and then fought Orochi. Sure...he hates effort but he can put a hellova lot in when he has too. So yeah, Kyo takes stamina too.
speed: questionable. could be either but Kyo's got more chain combos and his movements are faster.
experience: Ken is not a street fighter nor does he fight ANNUALLY. Kyo does and faces a hellova lot tougher and stiffer competition than Ken, whose only great fights are agaisnt non-focuses Ryu, Bison (with help) and then school girls and rookies...and unamed losers in the US championships.
career: Kyo is a natural while so is Ken. Kyo is 4 time KoF champ (5 if you count the fact that he is the one who laid out the boss in 99) and is also the champ of the Japanese tournament. 5 against 3....possibly 4 if Ken does in fact win SF though most people doubt it. Ken is a slacker like Kyo, though Ken has never reinvented himself, unlike Kyo who has in two occassions.

kyo did lasted against goenitz for a long time who beat regular rugal easily. and beat regular rugal fairly. and he came up with a victory against terry

the geonitz bit is totally agreed. good point there.
however,kyo hasn't actually beaten Terry from all that i know.

Yeah he can. & Iori'd scorch him to the marrow

like he did in those tournament where Terry has been making it to the finals and not Iori, right?
did some checking with Kaulu Lantis' FAQ. Terry has been making it to the finals since KoF94 all the way till KoF2000. not Iori's team. not Ryo's team. not anyone else's team.
Like Coop from MEGAS XLR would say: what you gonna rhyme with that sucker?
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you dig Terry Bogard!
I dig Terry Bogard!
we dig Terry Bogard!
chicks dig Terry Bogard!
NICE!🙂

~The Invincible Sado-sama

Remulous Frisky Wolf Lord

Yahoo Terry And Kyo!!!

P-Geyser Saraya-Jade Maniac
[i]Originally posted by brainchild81
[B] Yeah he can. & Iori'd scorch him to the marrow

Uh no just no...great opinion.

brainchild81 Privateer

Yeah but you still seem to think Terry beats or can even hang w/O.Iori even though Terry needed a gang of help to subdue him. Heart conquers all right? Great opinion to you too good sir. 🙂It honestly seems to be a combination of you loving Terry & hating Iori though.

Originally posted by Sado22
like he did in those tournament where Terry has been making it to the finals and not Iori, right?
did some checking with Kaulu Lantis' FAQ. Terry has been making it to the finals since KoF94 all the way till KoF2000. not Iori's team. not Ryo's team. not anyone else's team.
😆 You've said yourself how Iori wanders the f**k off to look for Kyo. Didn't Iori make it to the finals himself 'cuz he was tired of losing because of his teammates? Iori goes by himself & Terry didn't even make it w/2 people helping him. Wouldn't be surprised if Terry & co took a beating from Iori on his way to the finals. Iori doesn't even care about the finals. He just wants to Kill Kyo. P.S. O.Iori doesn't just scorch Terry to the marrow. He melts him.

Sado22 Restricted

You've said yourself how Iori wanders the f**k off to look for Kyo. Didn't Iori make it to the finals himself 'cuz he was tired of losing because of his teammates? Iori goes by himself & Terry didn't even make it w/2 people helping him. Wouldn't be surprised if Terry & co took a beating from Iori on his way to the finals. Iori doesn't even care about the finals. He just wants to Kill Kyo. P.S. O.Iori doesn't just scorch Terry to the marrow. He melts him.

again....what part of "did some checking with kaulu lantis' FAQ" don't you understand, Mr.President. 😛
Iori wandered off in KoF95, lost to Kyo' team in KoF96......but whats his excuse for KoF97?
Terry on the other hand has been the team facing Kyo since KoF94 all the way till KoF00.
oh and just though i'd tell you this brainy:
in the KoF2000 when Terry and gang reached Zero's base they were attacked by heavily armed minions of NESTS/Zero. Terry took them on and was even willing to keep on doing it but the base collapsed. now...since you were inclined to bring up how Ryu could dodge bullets (from a handgun) i wonder what that makes Terry since he was taking on many heavily minions of the badguys all by himself and was even having fun?

~The Invincible Sado-sama

brainchild81 Privateer

The memory problems must be coming form you. I never brought up bullet dodging. I look for the Iori stuff, but so far it seems Iori's losing to the same guys who took Terry's team out. Big deal. Iori's flattened Kyo. Terry hasn't.

id369 The Man of Tomorrow

I would think Kyo would win.

P-Geyser Saraya-Jade Maniac
Originally posted by brainchild81
[B]Yeah but you still seem to think Terry beats or can even hang w/O.Iori even though Terry needed a gang of help to subdue him. Heart conquers all right? Great opinion to you too good sir. 🙂It honestly seems to be a combination of you loving Terry & hating Iori

Likewise to you Mr. Iori fan. You keep claiming time and time again that Iori would "scorch" of "melt" Terry. Whether it's Iori or O'Iori which has NEVER been proven. I guess ripping everyone like butter with their fingers is a great conquers all to huh?

Remulous Frisky Wolf Lord

Wait people, this whole Terry vs Kyo vs Iori has all been done before with no clear victor! Besides it's Ryu vs Kyo! Take a look at my avatar, can't we all just get along and swim in a sea of togetherness. 😄

P-Geyser Saraya-Jade Maniac
Originally posted by Remulous
Wait people, this whole Terry vs Kyo vs Iori has all been done before with no clear victor! Besides it's Ryu vs Kyo! Take a look at my avatar, can't we all just get along and swim in a sea of togetherness. 😄

That gif of Terry you have from the real bout games, always looked better than Terry in the KOF games.

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by P-Geyser
Likewise to you Mr. Iori fan. You keep claiming time and time again that Iori would "scorch" of "melt" Terry. Whether it's Iori or O'Iori which has NEVER been proven. I guess ripping everyone like butter with their fingers is a great conquers all to huh?
😆 I'm not trying to be insulting. Just logical. It's quite logical that if Terry needed a gang of help to take out O.Iori that Terry would lose to him in a 1on1 isn't it?

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