Hmm, if you're tortured permanently in hell...

Started by Lord Urizen14 pages
Originally posted by Fatima
Quran said that satan followers will burn in hell ..and god will change their skins each time so that they feel the pain constantly ..

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God is so sadistically loving.....

Why do you worship such a cruel being ? He's worse than Hitler !

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Oh God...shut up... 🙄

I'm getting tired of these N00bie zealots resurrecting ancient arguments that have already been discussed....


You know what no one is making you come on line so if u don't wanna see it don't get online duh

Originally posted by erg
You know what no one is making you come on line so if u don't wanna see it don't get online duh

no one is making you come online either so if you don't want to loose every argument you have just don't come to this forum. 🙂

Habituation (getting used to a stimulus) is a physiological response, and as such can be circumvented. Thus, we could subject an individual here and now, while alive, to torture w/o allowing him/her to get used to it.

By definition, Hell would be irrefutably and unequivocally intolerable, far worse than watching reruns of Joe and Valerie ( http://www.tv.com/joe-and-valerie/show/17554/summary.html ).

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
masochists like pain though

yeah but because they receive as much as they can handle. in hell they don't decide what type of torture they want to get. ok let's put it this way how can you train your soul to get used to anything, we may have control over our bodies but no power over our souls

Originally posted by Mindship
Habituation (getting used to a stimulus) is a physiological response, and as such can be circumvented. Thus, we could subject an individual here and now, while alive, to torture w/o allowing him/her to get used to it.

By definition, Hell would be irrefutably and unequivocally intolerable, far worse than watching reruns of Joe and Valerie ( http://www.tv.com/joe-and-valerie/show/17554/summary.html ).


Exactly. If your nerve endings or receptors are still intact your nerves will fire and that will cause a pain response in your mind.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Exactly. If your nerve endings or receptors are still intact your nerves will fire and that will cause a pain response in your mind.
But would your nerves reach that overloaded state where they never completely reached a resting state, and thus are incapable of firing, akin to a reaction to strychnine.

Yes, but since these people are thoroughly convinced that demons will expertly torture them for eternity I think it is safe to assume that that state will not be reached in the context. Or perhaps the demon torturers could neutralize your acetylcholine so they repeatedly fire causing repeated pain. Or perhaps they would be able to affect the pain centers of the brain and simply put you in continuous pain without even touching you.
I'm a little out of touch with the biological principles of psychology as it hasn't been relevant to me in a while, but I think it was something like that.

Good thing hell isn't eternal.

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Originally posted by Regret
But would your nerves reach that overloaded state where they never completely reached a resting state, and thus are incapable of firing, akin to a reaction to strychnine.

I would think you could play with threshold levels and recovery times to get around that.

Originally posted by Mindship
I would think you could play with threshold levels and recovery times to get around that.
Probably 😉 But then I don't really believe in the hell portrayed by many modern interpretations of Biblical hell, just adding a fun physiological fact to the discussion.

If you ask me, the torture in hell is simply being forced to watch you're sins repetitively for eternity

Originally posted by FeceMan
Unlike adjusting to temperature, the body does not adjust to pain.

Since most of you seemed to have missed this...

People live with chronic pain. Their pain is the same, day-in and day-out. It does not dull with time. It feels the same on the tenth year of suffering as it does on the first day.

Originally posted by Grimm22
If you ask me, the torture in hell is simply being forced to watch you're sins repetitively for eternity

But I enjoy my sins, having to watch them isn't torture. (the repetition might get to me eventually though)

Originally posted by FeceMan
Since most of you seemed to have missed this...

People live with chronic pain. Their pain is the same, day-in and day-out. It does not dull with time. It feels the same on the tenth year of suffering as it does on the first day.

You are confusing missed with ignored. 😛

Originally posted by Nellinator
You are right, nerves either fire or they don't. However, if the nerve receptors are damaged you can not detect the stimulant and you won't feel the pain.

So actually burning would hurt a bunch of times, until the the receptors were all damaged. However, a skilled torturer would be able to torture other parts of your body while they heal and then come back and start over.

Also, hell is not eternal.

* mr.nellinator, i would like to ask why do you believe that hell is not eternal... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* mr.nellinator, i would like to ask why do you believe that hell is not eternal... 😉

I asked him the same thing once. To paraphrase his answer the Bible says something about instant inceineration of sinners.

* i don't know about that... what i know was an everlasting fire for Satan, his angels and his converts... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* mr.nellinator, i would like to ask why do you believe that hell is not eternal... 😉
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I asked him the same thing once. To paraphrase his answer the Bible says something about instant inceineration of sinners.
Originally posted by peejayd
* i don't know about that... what i know was an everlasting fire for Satan, his angels and his converts... 😉

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Is the world flat?
How many angel can dance on the head of a pin?
Does the sun go around the Earth?

You guys are so lost! 😆 That is in a knowing fact from fiction kind of way. 😆

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Is the world flat?

no its hollow

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
How many angel can dance on the head of a pin?

depends on the angel

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Does the sun go around the Earth?

the sun is a conspiracy created by aliens to control us it doesn't go around anything

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You guys are so lost! 😆 That is in a knowing fact from fiction kind of way. 😆

My delusions are a perfectly valid source of information about how the world works buddy.