someone said (sarcasticly) earlier that we could add kirby as well..
ok thats fine, but its blopdy overkill, kirby is just as big a powerhouse as mario...he cat punch a freaking crack all the way down his planet, fly, take hits from giant cannons and can absorb the abilities of anything he swallows..with the right form, he could prove a worthy match to team FF7
This is not a battle of weapons, weapons are useless unless team Nintendo is like dragon ball z, even the sonic boom cannot effect Vincent, ppl, all but cloud cannot be killed, do you not hear me, if Samus herself can't be effected by the sonic boom, then Vincent sure can't, links ability to turn invincible and lift things is exactly what I said, in a match up without magic, or potions, or powerups he gains throughout levels, he'd loose, he'd still loose if he had all those things and Cloud had all his stuff as well.
Sephiroth shouldn't even be in this, its unfair, he is time itself, he can be reborn several times, he doesn't die 😖 And with the virus he creates during Advent children, that alone is enough to kill all Nintendo team without him being on the field yet 😖
This argument is about as childish as it gets, but I'm persistant, roflmao!
Originally posted by MadMelWhats stopping Vincent from vanishing and appearing right there next to Samus? If Samus can avoid the sonic booms, lol, so can Vincent 🙂
why the hell cant samus's sonic boom not affect vincent...thats just a pointless assumption to think that vincent is suddenly immune..
and there a good reason why it doesnt affect samus...its shot AWAY from her 🙄
Lol, lets have a full blunt argument 🙂 Samus would get owned with one slash of Sephiroth's sword, which virtually cuts anything except Cloud's sword in half, lol.
Um...Samus' shield allows her to wade through acid and lava uneffected. Anything to to suggest acid and lava are weaker than Seph's sword?
And Mario, Link and Samus ARE unbeatable until you actually prove why they aren't. They're all clearly stronger and more durable than anyone on FFVII's team. They have items to make themselves invincible and into demi-gods. Samus has enough firepower to waste a planet in short order.
Honestly...we're not bias because we're actually providing facts for why we're right.
Originally posted by NikkolasAm I not prooving facts too? Its just a clash of opinion, by saying either will win with out reason is not providing facts.
Um...Samus' shield allows her to wade through acid and lava uneffected. Anything to to suggest acid and lava are weaker than Seph's sword?And Mario, Link and Samus ARE unbeatable until you actually prove why they aren't. They're all clearly stronger and more durable than anyone on FFVII's team. They have items to make themselves invincible and into demi-gods. Samus has enough firepower to waste a planet in short order.
Honestly...we're not bias because we're actually providing facts for why we're right.
Seph's sword is extremely powerful, you only had to look at the robots, animals, materials he has cut in half with the slash of one sword, not to mention while Samus can destroy planets, so can seph, his move in the final battle of FF7 is a powerful maelstorm which destroys planets, in fact, they don't even fight on a planet for the last fight, they fight in a space between a time gap. Only memories and will power kept Cloud from loosing, not just anyone can take down Seph, and the same way he came back in Advent children is the same way he can come back, over and over and over again. Firepower and brute force is practically useless against a force of unpredictability. Seph is practically capale of anything. And this is just Seph.
As for Cloud and his ability to dodge bullets, summon beasts of great power if you're including magic and items in this, the power to curse the enemy, the power to be revived, heck, just summoning Neo Brahamut by Cloud is enough to extinguish the fire that is Link.
And Vincent is dead, I've said this already, he came back from the dead, hes really can only be killed by magic or sealed away, other then that, he can't be touched or killed.
Character designs mean nothing, had you put Tidus or Squall in this, they would have easily been eaten alive. Cloud, Seph and Vincent are completly different, in fact, they are a force to yet be dominated.
If Mario can get defeated by a mushroom in Mario brothers ds, if Link can be defeated by a giant fish, if Samus can be killed by small alien blobs in Metroid Prime, what on this green earth do they have over Cloud, Vincent and Seph? Roflmao, this debate gets lamer by the second, lol.
Originally posted by beta ray bobActually its no where near that, its just a silly funny debate about characters in a game 🙂 If someone takes this seriously then they're a gaming nerd, thats different, I've been laughing at the posts, I have no reason to start accusing anyone of being a fanboy or even start cursing thier mothers because they think Link can beat Cloud, thats immature 🙂
it is obvious that this will go on and on because mario and zelda fanboys as well as ffVII fanboys at war could make this forum turn in to a flame pit where everyone would be drawn in just to get back at the other guy so i am not discussing this anymore
Seph's sword is extremely powerful, you only had to look at the robots, animals, materials he has cut in half with the slash of one sword, not to mention while Samus can destroy planets, so can seph, his move in the final battle of FF7 is a powerful maelstorm which destroys planets, in fact, they don't even fight on a planet for the last fight, they fight in a space between a time gap. Only memories and will power kept Cloud from loosing, not just anyone can take down Seph, and the same way he came back in Advent children is the same way he can come back, over and over and over again. Firepower and brute force is practically useless against a force of unpredictability. Seph is practically capale of anything. And this is just Seph.
Well, your major flaw is that Supernova, the almighty attack that destroys planets, doesn't destroy anything. As it is pure game mechanics, it leaves the planets uneffected. In fact, since he can do the move again and again, it's simply an illusion. He can't destroy a singel planet on his own, let alone a solar system.
Point of fact, if you attack Ultima Weapon on the Highwind with one of the Bahamuts, the deck is blown to pieces. Yet, we know that the deck didn't actually go anywhere as it re-appears at the end of the attack. You all were just in the Lifestream with Seph and the blue-and-white backdrop was of no storyline significance.
Cutting through robots of some unknown composition means nothing. Wading through pits of lava and acid with zero effect means something because we can guage the power of lava and acid. Show me one reason why Sephiroth's sword can get through Samus' shields. Her tech is about a couple centuries ahead of anything in FFVII.
As for Cloud and his ability to dodge bullets, summon beasts of great power if you're including magic and items in this, the power to curse the enemy, the power to be revived, heck, just summoning Neo Brahamut by Cloud is enough to extinguish the fire that is Link.
Link = invincible giant demi-god with the Triforce. He is far beyond Cloud or Neo Bahamut's capabilities of hurting...due to being an invincible demi-god thanks to Magic Armor and Fierce Deity Mask and all.
And Vincent is dead, I've said this already, he came back from the dead, hes really can only be killed by magic or sealed away, other then that, he can't be touched or killed.
Well, he may still be alive, but Mario jumping on his head will make him a still-living pile of goo. Mario's jumps crush entire castles. Vincent won't be walking away from them.
If Mario can get defeated by a mushroom in Mario brothers ds, if Link can be defeated by a giant fish, if Samus can be killed by small alien blobs in Metroid Prime, what on this green earth do they have over Cloud, Vincent and Seph? Roflmao, this debate gets lamer by the second, lol
They have:
Mario with Star Power, invincible.
Link with Magic Armor, invincible.
Originally posted by NikkolasDude, regardless to how high Mario can jump, he can get killed by mushrooms and purple kitties and they havent even attacked him, just merely touched him, so his threat is about as much as a frog, all Vincent would have to do is touch him, he'd go "Mamamia!" and die.
Well, your major flaw is that Supernova, the almighty attack that destroys planets, doesn't destroy anything. As it is pure game mechanics, it leaves the planets uneffected. In fact, since he can do the move again and again, it's simply an illusion. He can't destroy a singel planet on his own, let alone a solar system.Point of fact, if you attack Ultima Weapon on the Highwind with one of the Bahamuts, the deck is blown to pieces. Yet, we know that the deck didn't actually go anywhere as it re-appears at the end of the attack. You all were just in the Lifestream with Seph and the blue-and-white backdrop was of no storyline significance.
Cutting through robots of some unknown composition means nothing. Wading through pits of lava and acid with zero effect means something because we can guage the power of lava and acid. Show me one reason why Sephiroth's sword can get through Samus' shields. Her tech is about a couple centuries ahead of anything in FFVII.
Link = invincible giant demi-god with the Triforce. He is far beyond Cloud or Neo Bahamut's capabilities of hurting...due to being an invincible demi-god thanks to Magic Armor and Fierce Deity Mask and all.
Well, he may still be alive, but Mario jumping on his head will make him a still-living pile of goo. Mario's jumps crush entire castles. Vincent won't be walking away from them.
They have:
Mario with Star Power, invincible.
Link with Magic Armor, invincible.
Metriod prime on DS as these little green blob things, and a slight touch of them saps your life away, so much for ancient armour if she looses life for that -_- and Link, well, after playing Zelda and getting eaten by a big fish while swimming and killed instantly despite how many powerups I had, that pretty much sums it up. Theres your powerhouse team 🙂 Great attacks, not so great defence or life for that matter.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Well, your major flaw is that Supernova, the almighty attack that destroys planets, doesn't destroy anything. As it is pure game mechanics, it leaves the planets uneffected. In fact, since he can do the move again and again, it's simply an illusion. He can't destroy a singel planet on his own, let alone a solar system.
Originally posted by Pulse2
Dude, regardless to how high Mario can jump, he can get killed by mushrooms and purple kitties and they havent even attacked him, just merely touched him, so his threat is about as much as a frog, all Vincent would have to do is touch him, he'd go "Mamamia!" and die.Metriod prime on DS as these little green blob things, and a slight touch of them saps your life away, so much for ancient armour if she looses life for that -_- and Link, well, after playing Zelda and getting eaten by a big fish while swimming and killed instantly despite how many powerups I had, that pretty much sums it up. Theres your powerhouse team 🙂 Great attacks, not so great defence or life for that matter.
Oh, great, you basing Mario on SM-f*ckin-B 1. Try current Mario for once, or better yet, Paper Mario - Mario.
Are there ANY giant fish here? For **** sake, man that couldn't be more irrelevant.
And yeah by your logic Samus would instantly die if she got by todays revolvers and guess what? She fights space pirates with frickin' LASERS and shit, so IF we were going by your 'logic' then we should rename her to Doris the bullet-dodger or more accurately The High-tech Laser dodger (or Lady Luck herself).
Oh I win. redjump
Originally posted by IceJawYou're twisting it when its convenient for you, you want to take out all the good parts and leave the bad? Hell naw! If you are gonna point out the attacks they have and all the great stuff, talk about what they get killed by as well, its hardly fair that you can involve powerups from thier games, but won't involve what they get killed by, if you are gonna ignore what they get killed by, then powerups dont count in this either, the thread maker didnt point out powerups are allowed in his first thread 🙂
You could have quoted me, I've said that a couple of hundred times.Wow, you're smart, you're basing all that on frickin' game mechanics! barker
Oh, great, you basing Mario on SM-f*ckin-B 1. Try current Mario for once, or better yet, Paper Mario - Mario.
Are there ANY giant fish here? For **** sake, man that couldn't be more irrelevant.
And yeah by your logic Samus would instantly die if she got by todays revolvers and guess what? She fights space pirates with frickin' LASERS and shit, so IF we were going by your 'logic' then we should rename her to Doris the bullet-dodger or more accurately The High-tech Laser dodger (or Lady Luck herself).
Oh I win. redjump
So there 😛
Mushrooms own ^^
And like I said, if a musroom can kill Mario, a fish can kill Zelda, and a green blob can kill Samus, what chance to they stand against Seph who only dies to cloud after a major battle, Cloud who takes damage from soldiers and giant dragons and Vincent who doesnt literally die at all 😖