Team Nintendo vs. Team Final Fantasy VII

I congratulate you, cause you're (unlike the others) basing this on something, and not just posting useless feats.

Actually it's green potions. 😛
But it wouldn't really matter in that case. Say he got 4 bottles, well either he takes 4 green potions, meaning he can do the invincibility about.... 20 times, or he takes 2, making it 8 times. That's enough...

Well that could be argued yes, so it's a matter of how you think. We could leave it in, or we could go without it, for the sake of arguments, let's go without it in this case...

But the thing that is lacking here, is that you're putting Link against all of them alone. (Or maybe you just meant to talk about those feats that Link has, sorry if so), this also has Mario and Samus.

Well the same deal is with the star rod which is in paper mario's possesion. He can just do exactly the same thing as Link's triforce. So the FF team is dead.

Originally posted by vanice
It's nice that you reminded me. OOT Link can reincarnate [B]FOUR[B\] times, because of faries. But he wouldn't have to use them since he can make himself invincible.

All the Invincible cape, and nayru's love would do is drain his magic because he's to slow to catch him and he can fly. So being Invincible would only help Link if he can be Invincible for ever an he can't.

Sephiroth can reincarnate as well, but he wouldn't need to because Life 2 resurrects him automatically, not that he would die in the first place.

Let me add some more to list. Wall, Haste, Life 2, Regain, and auto potion.

Right right, green potions 😛

Cloud also has Debarrier, so even when Link has a barrier on Cloud can easily dispell it and even combine it with some crazy attack when he does.* Now the StarRod is strong but still a weak wish granter, and I doubt would be able to do things like the Triforce can.

*I never played FF7 just going by what I have learnt in other debates.

Yes he would. Sigh, useless feats. You're acting as if Link is alone in the fight, he is not. In air, I'll tell ýou who can reach him, Link, Mario Samus......

And paper Mario with the star rod will only wish them dead, again it's "as lame" as the triforce. The end, not gonna debate this anymore. Bye!

Originally posted by kamikz
Yes he would. Sigh, useless feats. You're acting as if Link is alone in the fight, he is not. In air, I'll tell ýou who can reach him, Link, Mario Samus......

And paper Mario with the star rod will only wish them dead, again it's "as lame" as the triforce. The end, not gonna debate this anymore. Bye!

Originally posted by Pulse2
How can you wish someone dead if they are already dead? That doesnt make sense to me.

I don't think he understands that Vincent is dead.

Also they would have life 2 casted and would come back to live, and if they really wanted to they could cast Zombie on themselves and become dead like Vincent, and then Vincent would silence Mario then no more wish casting.

Game freaking play, dammit.

Besides, Life in FF is un-canon. I wonder why no one in the FF team cast life when Sephrioth killed one of their members in a cut scene. Answere: They CAN'T.

So, Vincent can die in all games he stars in can he not? That's what I thought. And if not, here's how it goes...

He wishes Seph and Cloud dead, Vincent is left. They cut of his head and his arms, Vincent can be dead all he wants so he won't be to use anyway.

Now that I defeated the point, I can go back to the "not gonna debate this anymore, bye"

Originally posted by kamikz
Game freaking play, dammit.

Besides, Life in FF is un-canon. I wonder why no one in the FF team cast life when Sephrioth killed one of their members in a cut scene. Answere: They CAN'T.

So, Vincent can die in all games he stars in can he not? That's what I thought. And if not, here's how it goes...

He wishes Seph and Cloud dead, Vincent is left. They cut of his head and his arms, Vincent can be dead all he wants so he won't be to use anyway.

Now that I defeated the point, I can go back to the "not gonna debate this anymore, bye"

Somthing smells like burnt fanboy.........O yeah thats just kamikz.

Originally posted by kamikz

Besides, Life in FF is un-canon. I wonder why no one in the FF team cast life when Sephrioth killed one of their members in a cut scene. Answere: They CAN'T."

Oh, Oh, I got a good one for this. If Bowser could just wish Mario dead, why didn't he? Answer: because the StarRod CAN'T

Which leaves the Triforce which according to Dirk is omgwtfLAME, you're sure showing us you're a hater, good work. 👆

Why are you defending the FF7 team who're fighting a INVINCIBLE team btw, why? 'Cause you feel you have to defend your favourite prettyboys no matter what?

After all this Link yadery you've totally forgotten about Samus who could just spam missiles at them and they're not immune to high tech missiles btw.

Oh, before I forget, don't use arguments including FF7 team having the materia needed to do spells like slow and haste or hastega unless they got them according to the story line.

Originally posted by MetaHybrid
Oh, Oh, I got a good one for this. If Bowser could just wish Mario dead, why didn't he? Answer: because the StarRod CAN'T

LOL! That is wrong. The stars removed some of the starrods power when Mario confronted Bowser, and even if he could, he wouldn't have to, CAUSE HE HAD A CHOICE!

Also, wouldn't you revive your friend when she died? Of course they would, they had no reason not to. Saying they had a choice to revive her but didn't is out of the question, OF ****ING COURSE THEY WOULD! Bowser didn't have to kill Mario, he had a choice! It's the same as Ganondorf who had the power to ****ing trash his own tower when he was on the brink of fainting and losing his power, he could have trashed Link before, but he didn't. Underestimating your opponent can have a very negetive effect on you.

And this doesn't matter, with the starrod, Mario is ALWAYS invincible, it doesn't wear off. FF = Lost!

Originally posted by dirkdirden
Somthing smells like burnt fanboy.........O yeah thats just kamikz.

Nice refute. Would you want me to state everytime you made a point, "lolz, he is teh fanbaj", you are making it impossible to debate with you anymore, and you don't even accept any of our points, you just state new useless feats, or this crap above!. You have lost!

Is this thred still alive? 😆

Seriously this is Pwnage. Team Nintendo kills them almost instantly.

Originally posted by IceJaw
Which leaves the Triforce which according to Dirk is omgwtfLAME, you're sure showing us you're a hater, good work. 👆

Why are you defending the FF7 team who're fighting a INVINCIBLE team btw, why? 'Cause you feel you have to defend your favourite prettyboys no matter what?

After all this Link yadery you've totally forgotten about Samus who could just spam missiles at them and they're not immune to high tech missiles btw.

Oh, before I forget, don't use arguments including FF7 team having the materia needed to do spells like slow and haste or hastega unless they got them according to the story line.

ummmmmmm. I think I stated ealier that I'm a fan of Zelda. The only Final Fantasy I own is Cystal Chronicles and III for the Snes. I own just about every Zelda, Metroid , and a shit ton of Mario games. I haven't even played FFVII before.

The thing is. You guys haven't really come up with a way to beat Team FFVII. Yes I know yoy brought up the StarRod, and I guess that's completly fair to the rules since he does get it.

However, if Mario doesn't use it, they could still probably win. You guys can still continue to debate, while not having a instant kill weapon like the Triforce or StarRod (or BeanStar 🙄 ), then maybe some people could take you more seroiusly.

Don't worry kamikz , I take you seroiusly. 😉

Huh? What do you mean, "Don't worry Kamikz, I take you seriousley"? An insult right?

Anyway, ok, if we take away all those things that are instakills, let's see how team Nintendo can beat them...

In all honesty, how will Cloud (who flee from two guys with normal guns in that motorcycle ride, however, there might be something to that, I don't know. If so, explain), Sephiroth or Vincent escape from missiles that exist in a far later universe. They are homing and super fast, Samus herself can dash in supersonic speed. And she got laser, which moves to fast to dodge basically, and beams which cover whole areas. (Watch the new SSBB video to get a clue)

That's Samus, now the other two, we got Link, who is really, really good, though has different things depending on which game. If we would take his Majoras Mask equipment and skills, he can turn into the fierce deity (I'll talk a little about it later on, gonna try to shed some light), a giant, or pratically invisible. He can drink chateau milk which gives him unlimited magic for days, and has shitloads of other weapons to his disposal, not to talk about his excellent sword skills, defeating people like Odolwa (a giant tribal warrior with sword and shield, and magics to his disposal) and the 3 skelletons in the warrior community of Ikana, where one is stated to be the best swordsman in the whole place....

Mario without the starrod is probably the worst out of these three (though I might be wrong), but he can still shoot fire, possibly use stars and other things that are given to him in Paper Mario....

I don't see the FF team beating that. Even if they might have the firepower to kill some of them, how would they be able to use it when they are constantly running from supersonic speed homin missiles, beams, giant people swinging swords all over, fire balls, etc. I don't see the FF team for all their might get out of this one....

About the Fierce Diety. Of course I know this is just speculation, but if you think logically, shouldn't the Fierce Diety have other powers to it's disposal except just the ones showed in gameplay.
For example, Majoras Mask is one friggin powerful character, one of the most powerful in the whole Zelda series. He turns people into children and deku scrubs, pulls a moon out of orbit, causes whole terrains to turn to snow and freeze, etc. However, in battle, he can do what? Grow legs and run around...

The Zelda series has always been like this. Another example...
Zant in Twilight Princess. Who didn't think while playing the game, "How the **** will I beat that guy?", who comes in and tears everyone apart, getting one of the light spirits (who are like demigods) to fly away effortlessly, and turns Link into a wolf like nothing, even making Midna look like a fool. And yet again, when you face him, he can shoot glowing red balls.....

I honestly think that there is more to the Fierce Deitys power than what we know, the name speaks more of it than just a powerful sword. It is speculated to have the same dark power as Majora, or possibly stronger. Not saying I will use this in the debate, but well, just so people would think about it...

And MeatHybrid, being a Zelda fan doesn't mean you have to let them win, I'm a Zelda fan, but I seriously think they're gonna win, doesn't make me biased. Just saying... 😛

Didn't read your whole post. No It wasn't an insult. I do take you seriously. Maybe I shouldn't have put the 😉

Anyways going to read it now.

Ok lol!

Originally posted by kamikz
Nice refute. Would you want me to state everytime you made a point, "lolz, he is teh fanbaj", you are making it impossible to debate with you anymore, and you don't even accept any of our points, you just state new useless feats, or this crap above!. You have lost!

the impossibility of the debate is due to the fact that you say Mario and Link can just wish them all dead, even though the triforce and star rod have never shown the power to do so you are just assuming they can.

Most magical wishing object don’t allow killing someone with it, like in DBZ can’t use the dragon balls to kill someone. So the fact that the triforce and Star rod both haven’t been used to wish someone dead you can’t assume they can.

So your one and only point of victory is gone Nintendo doesn’t win.

"The one who touches it will have their wish granted, is that not what you said Ganondorf?". That's well basically the quote from TWW, "their wish granted". There are no restrictions, in ALTTP Link brings people BACK from the dead, why couldn't it kill people? The king of Hyrule wishes that Ganondorf will drown with Hyrule, isn't that killing someone? Why yes it is....

Originally posted by kamikz
"The one who touches it will have their wish granted, is that not what you said Ganondorf?". That's well basically the quote from TWW, "their wish granted". There are no restrictions, in ALTTP Link brings people BACK from the dead, why couldn't it kill people? The king of Hyrule wishes that Ganondorf will drown with Hyrule, isn't that killing someone? Why yes it is....

Yeah, Link does bring back people from the dead. But Ganondorf drowning is a result of the King's wish, which is for Hyrule to be lost in the ocean. Ganondorf drowning is a result of the King's wish, he isn't directly killing him. (Still Triforce is instant win anyway)

Samus has never really had a beam that takes up a whole area, that's just in SSBB. Just Like how Link never had a Omnislash attack which is also in SSBB. Samus probably doesn't have a weapon like that in her games.

The Firece Deity probably does have alot more strength than actually shown. This might be because Link is just borrowing a small portion of it's power, or because it hasn't fully been revived like Majora's Mask......or something.