Democratic Nomination?

Started by Deano101 pages

just vote for whatever puppet you feel is best. what cud possibly go wrong. they only want whats best for you

That's not a very good likeness to him. Maybe there should be a conspiracy theorists art group, where they can learn to do portraits worthy of people's attention.

Rhode Island Senator and former U.S. Attorney (appointed by Pres. Clinton) Sheldon Whitehouse endorsed Hillary Clinton for the Presidency yesterday.

to keep track of endorsements from within Congress, use this link

EDIT: for some reason thie link won't work, so if you search "Congressional endorsements" in the search box, it should be the first result.

Originally posted by Deano

Go back to the conspiracy forum...Everything is under control.

Originally posted by Fishy
With the importance China is giving these Olympics it actually wouldn't be that bad a sign... They are treating it like it's there way into the modern world, their prove that they are just as good if not better then any other country. The refusal of the US to go would do a lot, especially if most other western country's would follow their example.

It would be a disaster for China.


Thing is will the people except boycotting the olympics to persuade China into getting involved in Darfur?
Plus I doubt many western countries would follow the example.

Originally posted by Strangelove
Wrong Wrong Wrong. Absolutely wrong. Mandatory service ruins the point of service. Chris Dodd and Dennis Kucinich were absolutely right. Americans have to want to part of something bigger than themselves. Mandatory service is the worst idea ever.
I always hate that whenever I try to post in this thread...my connection dies.

American kids need to be pushed out of thier comfy chairs and shown what service means. That doesn't destroy the meaning, it creates a common basis of understnading and experience among all citizens and mixes up the nation. It builds unity.

Certianly people who WANT to should be able to (for longer), but the ones that don't want are the ones that really need it.

its a great idea and Dodd and Kucinich dimish it.

Originally posted by Alliance
I always hate that whenever I try to post in this thread...my connection dies.

American kids need to be pushed out of thier comfy chairs and shown what service means. That doesn't destroy the meaning, it creates a common basis of understnading and experience among all citizens and mixes up the nation. It builds unity.

Certianly people who WANT to should be able to (for longer), but the ones that don't want are the ones that really need it.

its a great idea and Dodd and Kucinich dimish it.

While I understand your point about people needing to step up, I don't think making service mandatory is the way to go about it.

Like Chris Dodd said in the debate the other day, he joined the Peace Corps because he was asked by his President to be a part of something bigger than himself. And a sentiment like that inspires me. Americans have to want it. Hell, if I was President, I would make a point of trying to inspire people, young or old, to volunteer. Making service mandatory, in my view, ruins the distinction of service.

Like Kucinich and Gravel said, there should be incentives for service to our country. Not just the military, but other causes, like the Peace Corps, Habitat for Humanity, innumerable other organizations.

That is what America should stand for. And in fact, it does.

I think inspiriation is a really warm and fuzzy idea, but i don't think its good enough.

Besides, if EVERY american actually served in the military, I'd imagine that a good portion of thier service would be doing aid work home and abroad...least it would in my vision.

Originally posted by Fire
Thing is will the people except boycotting the olympics to persuade China into getting involved in Darfur?
Plus I doubt many western countries would follow the example.

It is unlikely... And yes I'm sure the people would accept it, just show them a few sad images of children dying in Darfur and you would likely convince all of them that something needs to happen at least for a few minutes. Then just announce the boycot in those few minutes and everybody will agree...

Originally posted by Alliance
I think inspiriation is a really warm and fuzzy idea, but i don't think its good enough.

Besides, if EVERY american actually served in the military, I'd imagine that a good portion of thier service would be doing aid work home and abroad...least it would in my vision.

Again, I understand where you're coming from, but I have to disagree

Originally posted by Alliance
I always hate that whenever I try to post in this thread...my connection dies.

American kids need to be pushed out of thier comfy chairs and shown what service means. That doesn't destroy the meaning, it creates a common basis of understnading and experience among all citizens and mixes up the nation. It builds unity.

Certianly people who WANT to should be able to (for longer), but the ones that don't want are the ones that really need it.

its a great idea and Dodd and Kucinich dimish it.


So all American citizens should be legally obligated to serve in the military because it will unify them? What gives the government the right to disregard the judgment of each citizen to make an individual choice on whether to enter the military or not? As long as people pay their taxes and follow the law, the government should stay the hell away from their personal choices.

Originally posted by Strangelove
Again, I understand where you're coming from, but I have to disagree

Thats fine.

Originally posted by backdoorman
So all American citizens should be legally obligated to serve in the military because it will unify them? What gives the government the right to disregard the judgment of each citizen to make an individual choice on whether to enter the military or not? As long as people pay their taxes and follow the law, the government should stay the hell away from their personal choices.

I don't feel like writing my argument out everytime I post.

Citizens are unable to make personal choice in many instances. There are laws in this country that over-ride somone's individual choice. A nation is not a collective of individual decisions.

Paying taxes earns you citizenship. In my opinon, your franchisement should be dependant on service to the nation and a true understanding of what America is, why we have a democratic system, and how to maintain it. That experience comes through education, training, and service to the nation. Citizenship may be earned, but if you want to be able to direct the future of this nation, you need to that right.

I don't know what you mean by franchisement.

Franchisement is the right to vote.

I see, well what is the reasoning behind this opinion? Isn't giving the government a great deal of your money reason enough to decide who you want administering the said money?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rZdAB4V_j8

Mike Gravel for 08! He will creepily stare at you for minutes and throw a rock in a pond. WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rZdAB4V_j8

Mike Gravel for 08! He will creepily stare at you for minutes and throw a rock in a pond. WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

hysterical

I'm not sure what that's supposed to accomplish

A USA Today poll suggests that Hillary Clinton could put Texas in play in 2008. Think about it. As a Democrat, California and New York would be handed to her on a platter, but with Texas's 34 electoral votes, that would give her 120 electoral votes right off the bat 313

Is Texas Turning Blue? Poll shows Sen. Clinton faring well there