“I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,”
-biden "complimenting" obama
wow, nothing makes a black man feel more proud of himself than then you say that he's a fresh change from the rest of the inarticulate dark and filthy black people.
it makes a black person feel special to know that they are not undesirable like everyone else whos black.
no way is he going to shake this one
Originally posted by PVSWord up. He might as well have said "You're not one of the usual dirty monkeys I have to deal with so I can tolerate your running in this race."
wow, nothing makes a black man feel more proud of himself than then you say that he's a fresh change from the rest of the inarticulate dark and filthy black people.
it makes a black person feel special to know that they are not undesirable like everyone else whos black.no way is he going to shake this one
Originally posted by Morgoths_WrathWrong. Hillary Clinton can win. Informal polls indicate that if the election were held today, Clinton would defeat McCain, Romney and Giuliani by comfortable margins. Inter-Democratic polls show Clinton leading both Obama and Edwards in important issues.
I hope Obama decides to run. More experience wouldn't hurt, but hell, I'd hate to see Hilary in the running for president. Republicans can almost guarantee a win then.edit: and I'm not saying that just b/c she's a woman, but rather because she's a woman that a lot of people won't vote for.
Bring more to the table than opinion next time.
Originally posted by Strangelove
Wrong. Hillary Clinton can win. Informal polls indicate that if the election were held today, Clinton would defeat McCain, Romney and Giuliani by comfortable margins. Inter-Democratic polls show Clinton leading both Obama and Edwards in important issues.Bring more to the table than opinion next time.
I wouldn't be too reliant on informal polls. Many polls placed Kerry/Edwards as winners of the 2004 elections.
Still, I think you're right and I'm probably not giving Hilary enough credit. I think that she does have a strong backing. But from my first-hand experience, almost everyone I've talked to about the issue has said they would never vote for Hilary. Those that said they would vote for her were people that fell into the category of "chicks who would never have voted to begin with".
But you have to remember that, unfortunately, there are many "guys who would never have voted to begin with" besides the fact that they don't want a woman running the country. I don't think they will balance each other out, but I doubt it will be a very significant amount of voters in the grand scheme of the election.
Either way, I hope Obama wins. Otherwise I'm going republican.
Originally posted by Morgoths_WrathOh, and you forget the people who know how qualified she is to do the job.
Those that said they would vote for her were people that fell into the category of "chicks who would never have voted to begin with".
But you have to remember that, unfortunately, there are many "guys who would never have voted to begin with" besides the fact that they don't want a woman running the country.Like I've said before, people who think like that don't deserve to vote
Either way, I hope Obama wins. Otherwise I'm going republican.Would you vote Obama for VP? I think that'd be a better thing than to try and go for the top prize. He's simply not experienced enough. His powerful charisma and voice would be a fantastic fit for the VP
Originally posted by Strangelove
Would you vote Obama for VP? I think that'd be a better thing than to try and go for the top prize. He's simply not experienced enough. His powerful charisma and voice would be a fantastic fit for the VP
Yeah, I would support that...depending on who he'd be running with. I'd certainly want the most qualified person at the helm, and VP would give him plenty of experience to try for a run in 2012.