Democratic Nomination?

Started by m. sade101 pages
Originally posted by Alliance
He seems like he's just all smiles to me. That makes me uneasy.

yeah, nobody who wins the presidency in '08 should be smiling... they've got a lot of problems to deal with and no easy answers

me, I might vote for McCain, but I don't know how I feel about his Iraq war policy...for that matter, I don't know how I feel about the Democrats' Iraq policy 😬

...I think our troops are going to be involved in that region for a long time now regardless of whether we pull out of Iraq or not (a major foreign policy overhaul notwithstanding)

That may be the case. However, I feel you won't have the opportunity to vote for McCain beyond the primaries.

However, Obama's plan wants benchmarks for the Iraqi government with finnacial and troop withdrawl repercussions if they aren't met. If they are met, the US is willing to be flexible.

Imo, that the best plan out there right now and its a democratic one.

Originally posted by Alliance
Nowhere.

I really can't imagine the republicans electing a candidate like Guiliani. Will he be in drag for the convention too?


That'd be epic. Wouldn't be the same without Julie Andrews by his side though.

Originally posted by Alliance
44%

Wait for the debates. Obama will shread Hillary.

John Kerry did far better than Bush at the debates. But look who's president.

Kerry definately wonthe first debate, but the last two were close, maybe even in Bush's favor.

Besides, it absurd to think voters only decide on the debates.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Giuliani up 25 points
Apparently the GOP has realized he has the best chance of winning the general election 😆

ermm

Hillary...The woman back in the home...where she should be.
ermm

Originally posted by Alliance
Hillary...The woman back in the home...where she should be.
ermm
So now you're extending your rabid sycophantic Obamania into sexist jokes? 😬

Not at all. I'm commenting on how she chose to enforce a blatant sexist stereotype in her own campaign announcement.

Originally posted by Alliance
Not at all. I'm commenting on how she chose to enforce a blatant sexist stereotype in her own campaign announcement.
Which stereotype? That women like to have conversations? That they sit on couches? You're making a baseless claim here

Its not a baseless claim at all. Other candidates declare on talk shows, infront of state capitols, in museums, yet we see Hillary in the home, on a couch with the overtly femenine "lets talk about it" campaign message.

Which stereotype? I already said. So quit mudslinging at me and think about everything a candidate does and what message it sends.

Originally posted by Alliance
Its not a baseless claim at all. Other candidates declare on talk shows, infront of state capitols, in museums, yet we see Hillary in the home, on a couch with the overtly femenine "lets talk about it" campaign message.

Which stereotype? I already said. So quit mudslinging at me and think about everything a candidate does and what message it sends.

🙄 I'm not saying that Clinton didn't strategically make her campaign announcement. Are you going to claim that Obama isn't being strategic when he announces his candidacy in Springfield and drew connections to Lincoln? All candidates do it. Clinton will take advantage of the fact she is a woman. Obama will take advantage of the fact he is black. It's going to happen

And I'm not mudslinging. However, your rabid Obamania is translating into slamming the other candidates now. If Clinton wins the nomination, will you vote for her?

Let's not have this before the nomination comes. Wait until we have our candidate to turn our ire to the opponent. ermm

If CLinon wins, of course I'd vote for her. But enough of this "rabid Obamamania" mudslinging.

Clinton chose to do her announce ment in the home. She was trying to appear femenine and cordial compared to the man-beast many people think she is. In doing so, she's reinforcing female steryotypes. This is different from using her biological uniqueness as a candidate.

Originally posted by Alliance
If CLinon wins, of course I'd vote for her. But enough of this "rabid Obamamania" mudslinging.

Clinton chose to do her announce ment in the home. She was trying to appear femenine and cordial compared to the man-beast many people think she is. In doing so, she's reinforcing female steryotypes. This is different from using her biological uniqueness as a candidate.

Well maybe she was doing it to contradict her 'man-beast' image, rather than to reinforce stereotypes. No one tries to reinforce a stereotype that they are part of.

And as for the 'mudslinging' I'm calling it like I see it.

I'm not sayin gshe did it to reinforce femenine stereotypes, I'm saying it does. Unintentional side effects, but I find it ironically sad.

Hillary's attacking of Obama's ethnicity sickened me...plus i like obamas fresh young look, He truly is something that america needs in these troubled times. And he also looks like a leader that will act unlike dubya

Originally posted by DeathReaper
Hillary's attacking of Obama's ethnicity sickened me...plus i like obamas fresh young look, He truly is something that america needs in these troubled times. And he also looks like a leader that will act unlike dubya
Are you sure you aren't talking about Joe Biden? Hillary has never attacked Obama for being black

sorry i meant she attacked him for his former religious ties and family tree. she made it a very clear point that his family is muslim, as if that even matters hes christian now

Originally posted by DeathReaper
sorry i meant she attacked him for his former religious ties and family tree. she made it a very clear point that his family is muslim, as if that even matters hes christian now
....She never said that either. You're a moron

Originally posted by DeathReaper
sorry i meant she attacked him for his former religious ties and family tree. she made it a very clear point that his family is muslim, as if that even matters hes christian now

Someone made that story up, and FAUX news aired it. Why? They don't actually present news. They present spin.

Clinton has never insulted the religion of anyone in Obama's family to the best of my knowledge.