Republican Nomination?

Originally posted by Alliance
Sorry, but as a craftsman (artist) I fail to see how my craft ended at the IR.

The IR was when the middle class became a majority, when society actually became productive.

One of these things is not like the other.

Originally posted by Alliance
Sorry, but as a craftsman (artist) I fail to see how my craft ended at the IR.

The IR was when the middle class became a majority, when society actually became productive.

"Giuliani and McCain Too Gay-Friendly For Focus On the Family Leader" The Associated Press

Washington–A prominent Christian leader said Thursday that his "conscience and my moral convictions" prevent him from voting for Rudy Giuliani should he win the Republican nomination.

In a blistering online column, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson wrote that, should the former New York mayor become the nominee, "I will either cast my ballot for an also-ran–or if worse comes to worse–not vote in a presidential election for the first time in my adult life."

"Many liberal Americans will agree with the social positions espoused by Giuliani. However, I don't believe conservative voters whose support he seeks will be impressed," Dobson said on WorldNetDaily, a conservative news website.

A Christian evangelical based in Colorado Springs, Colorado, Dobson said he was speaking as a private citizen. However, his words carry considerable weight with the some 7 million listeners of his conservative radio show.

Earlier this year, Dobson said he won't back John McCain because of the Arizona senator's opposition to a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage. Dobson has given no public indication on how he feels about the other top-tier candidate, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney. The two, however, have met privately.

Dobson called Giuliani an "unapologetic supporter of abortion on demand" and criticized him for signing a bill in 1997 creating domestic-partnership benefits in New York City.

He said there were other "moral concerns" with Giuliani, including that he's on his third marriage to "his mistress" from his second marriage and "appears not to have remorse for cheating on his wife."

Last week in a speech in Houston, Giuliani urged Republican voters to look beyond the differences they have with him on social issues and said it was important to respect those with whom one disagrees.

"From the beginning Mayor Giuliani has been straightforward with the American people about where he stands on the issues," said Maria Comella, a Giuliani spokeswoman. "It is a sign of leadership to speak honestly about your beliefs even when it is not politically expedient."

Originally posted by Strangelove
It was the death of craftsmanship. I fail to see how the Industrial Revolution was the greatest 😬

Originally posted by Alliance
Sorry, but as a craftsman (artist) I fail to see how my craft ended at the IR.

The IR was when the middle class became a majority, when society actually became productive.

Originally posted by Strangelove
there's a difference between art and craftsmanship

Less often than you think, in the modern sense.

I'd argue that local craftsmen would have been weeded out by capitalism anyway, irregardless of the IR.

Originally posted by Alliance
Less often than you think, in the modern sense.

I'd argue that local craftsmen would have been weeded out by capitalism anyway, irregardless of the IR.

Originally posted by Alliance
Less often than you think, in the modern sense.

I'd argue that local craftsmen would have been weeded out by capitalism anyway, irregardless of the IR.

Originally posted by Strangelove
First: irregardless is not a word.
Second: you're probably right

Just want to say, you two are really alike.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Just want to say, you two are really alike.

Originally posted by Strangelove
too alike shock

YouTube video

this is proof that republicans are retarded. any one of them who refuses to drink the koolaid is swiftly slandered and bullied.

Is the poster of this video suggesting that Ron is actually the frontrunner?

If only 😬

Originally posted by Strangelove
Is the poster of this video suggesting that Ron is actually the frontrunner?

If only 😬

I think the creator of this video was calling him the frontrunner because of the american-idolesque poll that was being tallied. You'll notice he had the highest numbers at 27%, while the others were posting single digit numbers.

But, that was right after the debate, I'd be more interested to see where the numbers eventually ended.

The Official Republican Candidates look a little different than the poll I set up earlier this year, so here's a list:

Sen. John McCain (AZ)
Sen. Sam Brownback (KS)
Fmr. Gov. Mitt Romney (MA)
Fmr. Gov. Mike Huckabee (AR)
Fmr. Gov. Jim Gilmore (VA)
Fmr. Gov. and HHS Sec. Tommy Thompson (WI)
Rep. Duncan Hunter (CA)
Rep. Tom Tancredo (CO)
Rep. Ron Paul (TX)
Fmr. NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani (NY)

Sen. John McCain would be the front runner
he would get the nom

I've put in a request to change the poll to match the current field of candidates

YouTube video

yeah, thats right. the self proclaimed hero of 9/11 is a piece of shit. chew on that for a bit

I'm unaware of what that was supposed to illuminate

people who worked on ground zero are being/have been denied any government assistance for chronic resporatory problems because well "they just dont exist". only they do exist and people are dying because of it.

he was saying that there were no dangerous levels of aesbestos when people have died just from breathing that shit in while running away from the collapsing towers. nevermind spending weeks working in the ruins

Ah. okay.