The other night I saw a show on BBC and it had Former Ass. Secretary of State (I forgot his name) and he says he loves Europe and Britain because none of the people here support the views of the Republican party, which makes him very comfortable, as he is a Democrat. He then labeled issues like death penalty, global warming, healthcare etc. that everyone else supports the democrats views.
Interesting.
I found it interesting how Socialism is where money goes to the poor, (who generally don't deserve it,) and Capitalism is where money goes to the rich (who generally don't need it). Having that said, especially in the UK, people usually vote for the party that promises them more money. Now if only there was a way where everyone got money.
Why is Gulliani winning? He's second in-line for my cancer ray-gun right behind Bill Gates...
And why is McCain tied with Ron Paul?! Ron Paul is infinitely times better then that douchebag.
And why are so many liberals in the republican party? It's pretty retarded to call them conservatives when you got guys like mccain, gulliani, mitt romney, and ron paul running around.
Ron Paul=Deano bassicaly.
Originally posted by Captain KingJust that Ron Paul is the closest to Conservative of all those guys. You probably confuse it with Neo-Conservativism, which is more fascism than anything.
Why is Gulliani winning? He's second in-line for my cancer ray-gun right behind Bill Gates...And why is McCain tied with Ron Paul?! Ron Paul is infinitely times better then that douchebag.
And why are so many liberals in the republican party? It's pretty retarded to call them conservatives when you got guys like mccain, gulliani, mitt romney, and ron paul running around.
Ron Paul=Deano bassicaly.
Originally posted by BobbyD
...slowly becoming a big fan of Huckabee. The guy I hope doesn't win is Guliani. And I'm Italian too!
Granteed the republican party has become dem-lite anyway, but Gulliani went well beyond that. He's about as republican as kucinich.
Originally posted by Alliance
9-11 wasn't ENTIRELY the fault of US foreign policy. Lets not have an isolationist rally now...
Originally posted by Dr. Strangelove
^You should probably change that sig to Reagan considering how much head the Republican candidates give him.The democrats better not **** up this election because with the exception of Paul, every Republican candidate is going to keep the U.S. in the shithole known as Iraq.
Originally posted by Devil King
I agree that Ron Paul is the best candidate on the Republican side, but I wouldn't want him elected over Clinton or Obama.
Originally posted by Strangelove
I have no reason to doubt that they're inaccurate.And they say that Ron Paul has a dedicated fanbase among Libertarians and Libertarian Republicans. However, Paul has very little crossover appeal. He'll never win the support of the current Republican voting base, and Democrats don't agree with him either.
Originally posted by Devil King
I like Ron Paul. I've said that since I first heard him speak. But I have said a number of times that his foreign policy is naive. And even a great number of the people who support him must not be listening to his ideas about the federal government. Bush bankrupted the budget. Bush has expanded the federal bureaucracy. We all get that. But, Paul would like to dismantle a number of federal departments that the citizens of this country have come to depend on.And while I doubt he could pass such legislation as President, I am uncomfortable with the idea that he'd like to.
Originally posted by Strangelove
I don't like Ron Paul because he (I would assume) follows the ideology of the statement "The government that governs best governs least." And I agree with Devil King, that's just a naive line of thinking, whether in foreign policy or the federal bureaucracy.
And for someone who suggested the only reason Ron Paul has internet support is because of Alex Jones (joking or not); that is a completely baseless statement.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I wonder how the Tea Party 07 project will turn out. Less than 48 hours now.
Originally posted by BigRed
Ron Paul for the record, is not an isolationist (seemed like what you were implying). If anything, America is more isolated now with the foreign policy they have if anything.
That is so true.
Originally posted by BigRed
From what we've seen though, the Democrats aren't doing much of well anything to get us out of Iraq. So apparently, Ron Paul (a Republican) is the only true hope to get us out of Iraq as quick as possible and stop our empire building.
Recently? yes, the democrats haven't been doing very much to get us out of Iraq...but I remember earlier this year, the demos tried real hard to put stipulations on the budget approval for the US's Iraq presence and some idiot wouldn't listen to what the people wanted(because they voted in those demos for a reason)...now who was that again....?...OH YEAH!!! Is was George Bush! I thought it was utter dictatorship with what Bush was doing about that...the American people spoke loud and clear with the reps that they voted in...Bush knew that...his entire administration knew that...and they knew it before the reps took/resumed office. That pissed me off when Bush made a mockery of democracy like that.
Originally posted by BigRed
That's actually not true. He has major crossover appeal. Many democrats from what I've seen and heard are crossing over in droves to vote Republican. I even convinced a worker (a democrat) to vote Ron Paul and she hates Republicans. Many independents of course are latching on to Ron Paul. And I think many old school, TRUE republicans will vote for Ron Paul.
That is also very true.
Originally posted by BigRed
With all due respect, you must not be listening to Ron Paul then. He realizes people have come to depend on various governmental programs and it isn't high on his priority list to abolish aformentioned governmental programs. But eventually, over time, he would like to phase them out.
Do you have a source or sources for that information?
Of course, it would be most logical to gradually phase out unnecessary bulk of federal programs/organizations..."cut the fat" as it is called. It would be horrible if those programs were ended virtually immediately...that would be shit policy, of course.
Originally posted by dadudemonBut didn't they cave in at the end though?
Recently? yes, the democrats haven't been doing very much to get us out of Iraq...but I remember earlier this year, the demos tried real hard to put stipulations on the budget approval for the US's Iraq presence and some idiot wouldn't listen to what the people wanted(because they voted in those demos for a reason)...now who was that again....?...OH YEAH!!! Is was George Bush! I thought it was utter dictatorship with what Bush was doing about that...the American people spoke loud and clear with the reps that they voted in...Bush knew that...his entire administration knew that...and they knew it before the reps took/resumed office. That pissed me off when Bush made a mockery of democracy like that.
Originally posted by dadudemon
[B]Do you have a source or sources for that information?
Here we go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx2vLUMmSiA
It is about five minutes in. He talks about it for a few minutes. But uh, yea this is a great (long) interview to learn more about Ron Paul. Highly recommended.
Originally posted by dadudemon
[B]Of course, it would be most logical to gradually phase out unnecessary bulk of federal programs/organizations..."cut the fat" as it is called. It would be horrible if those programs were ended virtually immediately...that would be shit policy, of course.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Are you stupid. If you would support Ron Paul you can't support Huckabee.
I'll admit that my only knowledge of Huckabee comes from a quick look at his "positions wiki".
But ya... For someone to jump from supporting Paul to Huckabee seems quite a dramatic turn in ideology...
Ron Paul, Tea Party 2007 started twenty minutes ago. I don't know the exact total as of now for that twenty minute period.
But I do know $100,000 was raised in only ten minutes. That is amazing.
Donate if you can. I know I am. Grassroots people are making history. They are writing it people.
He's basically raising ten thousand dollars a minute.
Here is some perspective:
$84,794.82 in eight minutes for December 16th
$41,320.20 in eight minutes on Nov 5
On comparative pace for $8.19 million!