A voucher program would be in the best interest of everyone.
Tax dollars still go to pay for children's education, however, the schools are privately owned, this creates competition. Which encourages competance. Schools that stasticaly fall behind will lose buisness, and they'll be out of a job.
Alon with the added incentive to educate your kid or starve, there is also the choice of school. Granting you not only options you wouldn't otherwise have, but can choose to send your kid to a secular or religious school and learn the values you thin he or she will need inlife.
Who'd thought huh? Mean ole' Captain King taking about choices. Not the illussion of such your damn liberalism provides.
Originally posted by Devil King
You mean schools where all the poor kids go to recieve a free education? So, you're kind of fine with "public" education as long as the people are fine with paying for it?
I see what you are saying there...but I don't get why that is a negative thing? Why enforce a municipal/state/federal tax on someone who doesn't send their children to a public school? (Wait...I think I am arguing that point to the wrong person... 😕 )
Originally posted by Bardock42Equal opportunity. It's not as if rich people are better than poor people and deserve more.
Why should they?
Originally posted by Bardock42Well, they aren't using it. What's the point of having money if you don't need it?
What about people that have to pay? Do they deserve to get robbed of their money?
Originally posted by lord xyz
Equal opportunity. It's not as if rich people are better than poor people and deserve more.Well, they aren't using it. What's the point of having money if you don't need it?
But what about a middle class person who needs every last drop of money they can get to save for their childrens education and it trying to live the American dream but the government is stealing a little bit of that dream each and every day?
Maybe a tax break should be given to those who send their children to private schools...isn't there already something like that? (I think this solutions is a much better solution than any of the other's because people who want to send their children to public schools can and those who want to send their children to private schools can.)
Originally posted by dadudemonYes, private school people shouldn't pay public school tax.
But what about a middle class person who needs every last drop of money they can get to save for their childrens education and it trying to live the American dream but the government is stealing a little bit of that dream each and every day?Maybe a tax break should be given to those who send their children to private schools...isn't there already something like that? (I think this solutions is a much better solution than any of the other's because people who want to send their children to public schools can and those who want to send their children to private schools can.)
I think the middle class are what they're called, middle class. So, I doubt they need all their money. And what is this "American dream"?
Originally posted by dadudemon
I see what you are saying there...but I don't get why that is a negative thing? Why enforce a municipal/state/federal tax on someone who doesn't send their children to a public school? (Wait...I think I am arguing that point to the wrong person... 😕 )
It's a negative thing because there will always, as long as there is such a concept as money, be a far larger number of people without it, rather than with it; and the notion that only people who can afford to educate their children will have educated, accomplished children completely closes the door to the majority of the population, furthuring the socio-economic gap that exists between these groups. In fact, it makes it a permanant aspect of the society. And that's in a first world nation like America.
Originally posted by lord xyz
Equal opportunity. It's not as if rich people are better than poor people and deserve more.
Yeah they do actually. But if you want to give your money to the poor no one will stop you.
Originally posted by lord xyz
Well, they aren't using it. What's the point of having money if you don't need it?
You are the one to decide who deserves and needs it? The people have it because they provided useful services. They got money in return for contributing something, it is theirs, and how much they keep of that should be their decision alone.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Why should they?What about people that have to pay? Do they deserve to get robbed of their money?
What do you think will happen to all the people who can't pay for their kids education, do you think those kids will just get jobs and be a contributing part of society? Or is it more likely that they'll resort to crime, which in turn will raise your taxes for the extra prisons, policing, courts etc etc etc?
Originally posted by Bardock42Neg. How dare discriminate against poor people. They're people just like you, who by chance happened to be born in a shit environment.
Yeah they do actually. But if you want to give your money to the poor no one will stop you.
Originally posted by Bardock42
You are the one to decide who deserves and needs it? The people have it because they provided useful services. They got money in return for contributing something, it is theirs, and how much they keep of that should be their decision alone.
Yeah, it's not as if people cheat, scam, lie, steal and haggle.
Originally posted by RobtardThe first.
What do you think will happen to all the people who can't pay for their kids education, do you think those kids will just get jobs and be a contributing part of society? Or is it more likely that they'll resort to crime, which in turn will raise your taxes for the extra prisons, policing, courts etc etc etc?
Originally posted by lord xyzI'm not the discriminating one. You discriminate against rich people on grounds of their success. I am not discriminating against anyone, at least get your bullshit arguments straight before you spout them.
Neg. How dare discriminate against poor people. They're people just like you, who by chance happened to be born in a shit environment.Yeah, it's not as if people cheat, scam, lie, steal and haggle.
And scamming is illegal. To punish all rich people because some people got rich by illegal means is ridiculous. No one owes poor people anything. They may choose to help, but they can't be forced.
Originally posted by Bardock42Don't you agree that people deserve a certain standard of money?
The first.I'm not the discriminating one. You discriminate against rich people on grounds of their success. I am not discriminating against anyone, at least get your bullshit arguments straight before you spout them.
And scamming is illegal. To punish all rich people because some people got rich by illegal means is ridiculous. No one owes poor people anything. They may choose to help, but they can't be forced.
I'm not punishing rich people. They don't need all that money, especially since other people have so much less. Rich people should get taxed more money than poor people. 100 pounds to a middle class person is like a thousand pounds to an upper class person (not supposed to be accurate).
Originally posted by lord xyz
Don't you agree that people deserve a certain standard of money?
No.
Originally posted by lord xyz
'm not punishing rich people.
Yes you are.
Originally posted by lord xyz
They don't need all that money
Not your decision
Originally posted by lord xyz
especially since other people have so much less.
Bullshit argument. Don't share your moral views, they are stupid and lead countries into the shit we are in now.
Originally posted by lord xyz
Rich people should get taxed more money than poor people.
Why? Cause they already gave more than poor people? Cause they produced goods? Cause the made things of more value? Cause they improved your life immensely? Cause they are better?
Originally posted by lord xyz
100 pounds to a middle class person is like a thousand pounds to an upper class person (not supposed to be accurate).
So what? One made and did better things to get those 900 more. He has no more duty to pay for underachievers than any other person.
Doesn't it NOT make sense though to tax the hell out of the strong (or the rich) because the ultimately hurts the weaker (the poor)?
I'm not saying tax the shit out of the poor or the middle class for that matter, but the whole idea of taxing the hell out of the rich, I don't really get. Why punish people for earning what they got?
Ron Paul was on Meet the Press recently. Russert tried to drill and catch Paul off guard, but I thought he handled himself pretty darn well if you ask me. Not to mention, the stuff against Paul is nearly two decades old and really holds no substance. Whilst the material against pretty much every other candidate on either side is a buttload of information with actual substance. Good try Russert. Ron Paul wins though.