Christians and Catholics?

Originally posted by PVS
head out of ass please

😂 Nicely put.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No need to become angry Alliance. I'll admit my mistake RC is the second branch.

How do Catholics and Roman Catholics differ, however? (besides the pope)

I just get annoyed when I constantly have to repeat myself.

Catholic (êáèïëéêüò) means 'universal'. When the Christian Church was first formed, it was universal. When "officially" established by Constantine in Constantinople, it became the Church of both the Roman and Byzintine Empires. The Seven Ecumenical councils and the Councils of Nicea worked out early Church policy.

The Great Schism, as lil alluded too, was a split in the Catholic church circa 1054 CE. There's a lot of material based on this and reasons for the split.

Thus we end up with two Christian sects, one in Rome and one in Constantiople. Yet, both view themselves as the Catholic (universal church), the one in Rome distiguised itself by being Roman Catholic (the Church lead by the Pope and the one we know today).

There are a lot of differneces, especially in Church structure, I'm sure Wikipedia has some info, I'm not entirely familiar with every aspect and I need to get to class 🙁.

Originally posted by erg
The difference between a catholic and a christian, is that the catholics worship saints and christians worship Jesus Christ. The bible says that thou shall not worship any other God besides the lord Jesus Christ. Catholics tend to pray to the virgin mary and the saints for just about any reason.

Yup. And don't forget the whole purgatory thing, confessing sins to priests, and the general diefication of their priests.

do balls of shit come falling out of your mouths as you make this nonesense up?

I honestly do not know which is worse... Listening to zealots like JIA copy-paste-preach or ill informed people posting blantant nonsense about religions.

Originally posted by PVS
to pray to the virgin mary or a saint for help and guidance is not to worship them.

head out of ass please

How can a dead person guide or pray for a living one? If you could, please provide something of a scriptural nature to support this notion. I've never seen anything in the bible supporting it.

Originally posted by Robtard
I honestly do not know which is worse... Listening to zealots like JIA copy-paste-preach or ill informed people posting blantant nonsense about religions.

😕 Are not those two the same? 😂

Originally posted by Thundar
How can a dead person guide or pray for a living one? If you could, please provide something of a scriptural nature to support this notion. I've never seen anything in the bible supporting it.

your argument is based on the supposition that a "dead person" is just that and nothing more. how can you have a debate on faith if you dont acknowledge the spirit? shall i just say "you win" and give you a gold star sticker, and we'll call it a day or shall we have an endless debate based on your shifting convoluded logic?

Originally posted by Thundar
How can a dead person guide or pray for a living one? If you could, please provide something of a scriptural nature to support this notion. I've never seen anything in the bible supporting it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint

I know it's wiki, but it's a start... also look up and research "Sainthood", then come back and debate.

Originally posted by Thundar
How can a dead person guide or pray for a living one? If you could, please provide something of a scriptural nature to support this notion.

Your answer:

Originally posted by PVS
your argument is based on the supposition that a "dead person" is just that and nothing more.

God's answer:

Ecclesiastes 9:5
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward;

Ecclesiastes 9:6
Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.

The dead have no knowledge of anything "under the sun." One does not take part in anything involving life, once they are dead. Thus praying to a dead saint, will not bring an individual to salvation. So who can bring an individual to salvation?

God's Answer:

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Only through Christ can an individual be saved. Not through a dead saint, the virgin mary, or a Catholic priest.

Originally posted by Robtard
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint

I know it's wiki, but it's a start... also look up and research "Sainthood", then come back and debate.

^^^^

yes, please do

Originally posted by Thundar
Your answer:

God's answer:

Ecclesiastes 9:5
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward;

Ecclesiastes 9:6
Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.

The dead have no knowledge of anything "under the sun." One does not take part in anything involving life, once they are dead. Thus praying to a dead saint, will not bring an individual to salvation. So who can bring an individual to salvation?

God's Answer:

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Only through Christ can an individual be saved. Not through a dead saint, the virgin mary, or a Catholic priest.

You are confused, that is the bible's answer, at God's. 😆 Oh that's right, the bible is your god. 🙄

its sad really.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I'm not an expert on this but I think they use the saints as a conduit to god not as gods in and of themselves

Originally posted by PVS
to pray to the virgin mary or a saint for help and guidance is not to worship them.

head out of ass please

And exactly you should keep your head out of your ass 😛

what cracks me up is one group of people who believe in the invisible man in the sky bashing and trying to discredit other people who believe in the invisible man in the sky...and those statements also being misinformed and baseless at the same time. thats just sad yet funny...makes me want to dress you up as clowns and shoot you.

Originally posted by PVS
what cracks me up is one group of people who believe in the invisible man in the sky bashing and trying to discredit other people who believe in the invisible man in the sky...and those statements also being misinformed and baseless at the same time. thats just sad yet funny...makes me want to dress you up as clowns and shoot you.

Originally posted by erg
You probably don't have to dress up as one. 😆

That was funny 😐

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are confused, that is the bible's answer, at God's. 😆 Oh that's right, the bible is your god. 🙄

Umm..someone obviously doesn't know that "the inspired word of God" is

Spoiler:
the bible.

Originally posted by Thundar
Umm..someone obviously doesn't know that "the inspired word of God" is

Spoiler:
the bible.

The bible is your god.

Originally posted by erg
If you want to tell God something you don't need anyone carrying any messages or prayers to him. He can hear you.

What if God is busy? Even heaven needs beuracracy.