Re: Jsa Vs Jla
Originally posted by Superguy
The fight occurs across a city. The team's each have 30 minutes of prep.JLA:
Superman
Batman
The Flash (Wally West)
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
Red Tornado
Aquaman
Green ArrowJSA:
Captain Marvel
Mr. Terrific
Jay Garrick
Alan Scott
Stargirl
Sand Hawkins
WildcatWho'd win it?
Team One
Re: Re: Jsa Vs Jla
Originally posted by guy222
Team One
Sage commentary, as always.
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Anways, he's probably right. Flash, Kal, and Hal are probably a little bit > Jay, Alan, Marvel mainly because Wally >> Jay. The rest will be around, but I can't see anyone else having too big an impact on the fight.
Re: Jsa Vs Jla
Originally posted by Superguy
The fight occurs across a city. The team's each have 30 minutes of prep.JLA:
Superman
Batman
The Flash (Wally West)
Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)
Red Tornado
Aquaman
Green ArrowJSA:
Captain Marvel
Mr. Terrific
Jay Garrick
Alan Scott
Stargirl
Sand Hawkins
WildcatWho'd win it?
Captain Marvel defeats Superman with magic.
Jay Garrick beats Wally West because he is war experience.
Mr Terrific and Reddy pretty much equal.
Green Arrow over Stargirl no contest.
No way Alan could take on Hal.
Batman>>>Wildcat.
Re: Re: Jsa Vs Jla
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Captain Marvel defeats Superman with magic.
Jay Garrick beats Wally West because he is war experience.
Mr Terrific and Reddy pretty much equal.
Green Arrow over Stargirl no contest.
No way Alan could take on Hal.
Batman>>>Wildcat.
I hate to dissagree with you but I still think that Batman and Supes will fight to bitter end and win.
Re: Re: Jsa Vs Jla
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Captain Marvel defeats Superman with magic.
Jay Garrick beats Wally West because he is war experience.
Mr Terrific and Reddy pretty much equal.
Green Arrow over Stargirl no contest.
No way Alan could take on Hal.
Batman>>>Wildcat.
No way in hell could Jay beat Wally. 🤨 He struggles to approach lightspeed and he doesn't have nearly as much Speed Force powers as Wally does. It's no contest whatsoever.
Mr. Terrific and Red Tornado are not equal at all. It's a man with robotic spheres versus an indestructible android holding an air elemental with complete control over gases and air molecules. No contest whatsoever.
Absolutely NO way could Green Arrow take Stargirl. 🤨 Stargirl's powerset is ridiculously beyond GA's capablity to damage her. She can take punches from Supergirl...
Anyway, the JLA win primarily due to the Flash. An easy way for the JLA to win is for Flash to lend his speed to the other JLA teammates. Superman already has superior speed to Captain Marvel (Pre-IC) so a boost from Flash would allow him to win.
The Flash tilts the scales. Not to mention they have no defense against telepathy from Aquaman except for Alan who unfortunately will be too busy with Hal.
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Originally posted by Draco69
No way in hell could Jay beat Wally. 🤨 He struggles to approach lightspeed and he doesn't have nearly as much Speed Force powers as Wally does. It's no contest whatsoever.
Jay is a war veteran...should we go on?
Originally posted by Draco69
Mr. Terrific and Red Tornado are not equal at all. It's a man with robotic spheres versus an indestructible android holding an air elemental with complete control over gases and air molecules. No contest whatsoever.
Terry Sloane, no.
Michael Holt, yes.
Absolutely NO way could Green Arrow take Stargirl. 🤨 Stargirl's powerset is ridiculously beyond GA's capablity to damage her. She can take punches from Supergirl...
Power does not make a better combatant. But I'll give you that she is more powerful. However, that will not stop one of Ollie's arrows from connecting. Her speed is no match for one of Ollie's arrows.
Your posts are always good. But take the wtf smilies....you're not been cute with them. Much less clever.
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Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Jay is a war veteran...should we go on?
So is John Kerry. And everyone one of us here can kick his ass. Jay Garrick tops out at Mach 30 when he's serious. When he approaches lightspeed or surpasses it like he briefly did in IC, he'll burn out.
Wally? He can beat instantaneous teleportation and outrun Death (something even Barry couldn't do) Jay's simply not in his league. Not to mention, Wally's beaten Jay in combat numerous times already. Rather easily too.
Simple win for Wally. He steals Jay's speed and calls it a day. Jay can do the same but Wally possesses FAR greater control over the Speed Force than Jay.
Oh and Wally fought in several wars too. Some in the future. Some in the past. Some in alternate dimensions even. So that's completely moot....
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Terry Sloane, no.
Michael Holt, yes.
How? What can Mister Terrific possibly do to Red Tornado. He's a human being with floating robotic spheres. Even IF in the one in billion chance he destroys Red Tornado's body...it won't do sh**. Red Tornado's true form is an air elemental. He's basically the Iceman of air.
Simple win. Red Tornado creates a city-sized hurricane on Mister Terrific's head. Or he can control the air in his lungs and cause it to burst. Or he can control the oxygen in his veins and have it rocket to his brain to cause a seizure. So many ways for him to win. Terrific's completely out of his league.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Power does not make a better combatant. But I'll give you that she is more powerful. However, that will not stop one of Ollie's arrows from connecting. Her speed is no match for one of Ollie's arrows.
That's rather idiotic. Do you have any idea what Stargirl is capable of.
Speed of arrows? Try speed of LIGHT. Stargirls's starrod enables her to travel at lightspeed.
He can fire every arrow he has at her. It won't do anything. She can take blows from Supergirl, Modru and an enraged Powergirl. They'll just bounce of her chest. Not to mention she has constant forcefields protecting her from harm. Forcefields that withstood a nuke.
The ONLY way Ollie can win is if he has a Phantom Zone Arrow. Other than that, Stargirl wins 10/10.
Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Your posts are always good. But take the wtf smilies....you're not been cute with them. Much less clever.
Here's a better idea. Act like a thirty-year old man for once in your life and make logical arguments rather than "he's older than her/him so he MUST win!". bullcrap...
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Originally posted by Draco69That's rather idiotic. Do you have any idea what Stargirl is capable of.
Speed of arrows? Try speed of LIGHT. Stargirls's starrod enables her to travel at lightspeed.He can fire every arrow he has at her. It won't do anything. She can take blows from Supergirl, Modru and an enraged Powergirl. They'll just bounce of her chest. Not to mention she has constant forcefields protecting her from harm. Forcefields that withstood a nuke.
The ONLY way Ollie can win is if he has a Phantom Zone Arrow. Other than that, Stargirl wins 10/10.
I didn't know she could do all that.
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Originally posted by The Pict
I didn't know she could do all that.
Despite her absymal costume and teddy bear personality, her rod gives her alot of power. She just isn't experienced enough to use it to full potential like her predesecor did.
But regardless, she's out of Ollie's league with her powerset.
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Originally posted by Draco69
Despite her absymal costume and teddy bear personality, her rod gives her alot of power. She just isn't experienced enough to use it to full potential like her predesecor did.But regardless, she's out of Ollie's league with her powerset.
Yeah I didn't doubt that, but her ability to take the damage you mentioned surprised me.
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Originally posted by Draco69
So is John Kerry. And everyone one of us here can kick his ass. Jay Garrick tops out at Mach 30 when he's serious. When he approaches lightspeed or surpasses it like he briefly did in IC, he'll burn out.Wally? He can beat instantaneous teleportation and outrun Death (something even Barry couldn't do) Jay's simply not in his league. Not to mention, Wally's beaten Jay in combat numerous times already. Rather easily too.
Simple win for Wally. He steals Jay's speed and calls it a day. Jay can do the same but Wally possesses FAR greater control over the Speed Force than Jay.
Oh and Wally fought in several wars too. Some in the future. Some in the past. Some in alternate dimensions even. So that's completely moot....
I'm not arguing with you who is the fastest. I'm arguing with you about who could beat be who. Jay is an experience fighter. Which I'm sure Wally is also. Wally outrun death? When did he confronted Black racer?
How? What can Mister Terrific possibly do to Red Tornado. He's a human being with floating robotic spheres. Even IF in the one in billion chance he destroys Red Tornado's body...it won't do sh**. Red Tornado's true form is an air elemental. He's basically the Iceman of air.Simple win. Red Tornado creates a city-sized hurricane on Mister Terrific's head. Or he can control the air in his lungs and cause it to burst. Or he can control the oxygen in his veins and have it rocket to his brain to cause a seizure. So many ways for him to win. Terrific's completely out of his league.
Last I heard Holt is a super intellectual with extremely knowledge on technology. Gee, all it will take is some program sphere to scramble Red Tornado's database.
That's rather idiotic. Do you have any idea what Stargirl is capable of.
Speed of arrows? Try speed of LIGHT. Stargirls's starrod enables her to travel at lightspeed.He can fire every arrow he has at her. It won't do anything. She can take blows from Supergirl, Modru and an enraged Powergirl. They'll just bounce of her chest. Not to mention she has constant forcefields protecting her from harm. Forcefields that withstood a nuke.
The ONLY way Ollie can win is if he has a Phantom Zone Arrow. Other than that, Stargirl wins 10/10.
Aside from the Phantom arrow there are TWO good trick arrows Ollie can use agaisn't her...the Flash arrow and the sonic arrow.
You mention her forcefields. How quick can she active one before Ollie connects one of his arrows? Split second, huh?
Here's a better idea. Act like a thirty-year old man for once in your life and make logical arguments rather than "he's older than her/him so he MUST win!". bullcrap...
Keyword is "experience" keep that in mind when you refer to the old dogs.
Originally posted by The Pict
Yeah I didn't doubt that, but her ability to take the damage you mentioned surprised me.
He is overrating her damage intake he knows it too well.
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Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
I'm not arguing with you who is the fastest. I'm arguing with you about who could beat be who. Jay is an experience fighter. Which I'm sure Wally is also. Wally outrun death? When did he confronted Black racer?
He also outran the Black Flash.
Originally posted by Juntai
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