Can a Demon find Redemption ?

Started by Symmetric Chaos10 pages
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Voodoo zombie rituals take place in the real world too. Can you explain them?

Yes I can. 😏

Exorcisms take a lot less because they manifest themselves in a very real way.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Exorcisms take a lot less because they manifest themselves in a very real way.

And zombies don't?

Originally posted by Nellinator
Exorcisms take a lot less because they manifest themselves in a very real way.

There is no "real" about exorcisms other then what is in your head. 🙄

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
And zombies don't?
I have never seen one, so I can't say. But if they do...
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is no "real" about exorcisms other then what is in your head. 🙄
Says one who apparently knows nothing about them.

Originally posted by Nellinator
I have never seen one, so I can't say. But if they do...
Says one who apparently knows nothing about them.

I know enough, to realize that belief is powerful, but that does not make it real.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't get your point.

It means, "Fiction can be accurate."

I've known people personally that have seen centaurs (saying they are demons), demons, fairies, angels, black shadows, wolf type people, and some things I won't even mention. So what does that say about what people can see? Myself, I have not. On the other hand, I know people who would like to see something paranormal and don't.

And no, they were not on drugs. The Christians that I know saw the dark entities, the others were only spiritual people. The people that wanted but didn't see paranormal things were ones of no belief.

Originally posted by debbiejo
And no, they were not on drugs.

You claim that about yourself.
The Christians that I know saw the dark entities

Therefore, Christianity is dark and evil.

Originally posted by FeceMan
You claim that about yourself.
😆

Originally posted by FeceMan
It means, "Fiction can be accurate."

But "Fiction can be accurate." doesn't mean that fiction is real.

Originally posted by FeceMan
It means, "Fiction can be accurate."

No.

Fiction can have a symbolic message.

I don´t know. I´ve already been in spiritism centers and other religions that are like spiritism and which have originated from the african culture and which are very common in Brazil... Some people of my family where involved with those things before since it is very common here.
I frequented those places sometimes when I was young.

It is kind of a isolated culture so its difficult to know what happens there, but you have to be there to know. I think it is not everything that can be know by reading books and consulting Wikipedia.

Anyway, I think that these places don´t have much of spiritual. It is just phenomena.

Originally posted by FeceMan
You claim that about yourself.

Therefore, Christianity is dark and evil.

No ones on drugs..... 😠

I'm not saying Christianity is dark and evil. I'm talking about what the mind can produce and what people dwell on. It's interesting that people can see things others cannot. I know this man who went to a charismatic service where the preacher talked about how god put a halo of fire around his head (cause he was on fire for god), suddenly this man saw a circular flame about 1 foot tall around the preacher head! He kinda gasped and looked around to see if anyone else was seeing it, but no one stirred. He poked his wife, she had no clue..

I believe it's the power of suggestion and a strong belief that manifests these things.

nope.

Originally posted by darktim1
nope.

🙄

Hey everbody !

I have returned from my prior banishment a knew man....if I can find redemption, then so can a demon, because I am worse than any demon you will encounter lol

In all seriousness, if a Demon is a being of true evil, then no, true evil (or at least the embodyment of evil) could not possibly become good, or redeemed, because that would require a total transformation of identity, a re-birth at the very least.

However, according to Christian mythos, demons are nothing more than fallen angels. An angel, all angels, including Lucifer were created by God to serve God and man. Angels, being the children of the creator, God, who is embodyment of all good, were born of "light", and can return to light, no matter how far into the "darkness" they have travelled.

So according to Christian text, if you are loyal to its legend, a demon, which was once an angel, can certainly find his or her way back to angelhood via. redemption.

I thought the ban said it was permenant. Welcome back. Now I don't think the debate should really be about whether they CAN find redemption, but rather whether they WILL find it which it seems they won't.

Hell Yea A Demon Can Find Redemption.

Look at Lord Urizen. He was banned and now he is free.

Look at Dante Sparda, he kills his own kind. He is a demon and kills demon for a living.

Originally posted by Smiter
Hell Yea A Demon Can Find Redemption.

Look at Lord Urizen. He was banned and now he is free.

Look at Dante Sparda, he kills his own kind. He is a demon and kills demon for a living.

Look at Spawn....he was a slave to Malebolgia, now he is the world's savior ! Top that JESUS !

Originally posted by Smiter
I thought the ban said it was permenant. Welcome back.

I think someone felt bad for me, but thanks 😄

Originally posted by Smiter
Now I don't think the debate should really be about whether they CAN find redemption, but rather whether they WILL find it which it seems they won't.

But we don't know that....the Angels were God's first children, so no matter what, Demons derive from God....I don't truly think that an all-loving God is that black and white that he wouldn't forgive a suffered demon....