Originally posted by Soujaboy
Do you have a specific scan you woud like for me to look at or does it matter? Because I can gurantee that everytime Thanos slaps Surfer his hands aren't lit up like light bulbs.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Was that PURELY physical, or was Thor using magically powered hammer?Well in these, Hulk manages to knock Surfer around a bit, but it's pretty obviouse that he's relativly unharmed by it.
I'm unsure. It was never specifically stated, I guess it's up to the readers own interpretation. Even so, it still shows Sufer can be physically harmed.
Ps... Its difficult responding to so many post on my phone. lol
Originally posted by Soujaboy
I'm unsure. It was never specifically stated, I guess it's up to the readers own interpretation. Even so, it still shows Sufer can be physically harmed.
Originally posted by Skeets
Again,bringing Thanos in here is a moot point.Thanos is so far above Thor and Surfer it's not even funny.Thor was most definitely talking about Warrior madness.Do you have the scan?
I never brought Thanos into the argument. I was responding to a statement madeabout Thanos only koing Surfer when his attacks are renforced with energy.
Yeah Thanos Is leagues ahead of them both.
I do not, but I've seen them before. Thor never stated that during Warrior Madness that his power increases 10 fold. However it could just be the pis poor writters of the Onslaught saga had no idea what WM was.
Originally posted by darthgoober
What's not stated? The magic hammer part? If so, it doesn't need to be stated, just shown. So did Thor use his hammer to finish the fight or just his fist? A weapon being of magical origin can make a HUGE difference in situations like this(just ask Superman whether he'd rather have Batman slash at him with Wonder Woman's magical sword, or the Hulk slash at him with a normal sword, I'm pretty sure he'd be more willing to let Hulk slash away).
I don't rememnber all the details but he had possession of Mjolnir for the greater part of his battles.
I'll post the scans in the next few days if you want to see them.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
I don't rememnber all the details but he had possession of Mjolnir for the greater part of his battles.I'll post the scans in the next few days if you want to see them.
In the scans you posted from Blood and Thunder, Thor WAS using his hammer in the fight, and that's my point. Thor can knock around Surfer with his fist(just like Hulk can), but to actually cause damage or put Surfer down, he always uses Mjolnir. But I have damn near all of both Thor and Surfer's appearances, so if your thinking of an instance that escapes me just let me know and I'll post it.
This is just agility, strength, fighting skills, natural speed, and durability.
You never know when Surfer is using his natural speed or cosmically enhancing it, the same can be said for durability I suppose.
and since no cosmic amping for Surfer? No transmuting elements, no board etc etc.
Thor held Jugs without his hammer, I seen Thor do a lot without it. People are also underestimating Thor's durability...and with a serious power downgrade for both, durability is one of the main things each fighter possess. Besides he's more experienced in H2H; Surfer I haven't seen that much in that regard. Personally, so limited I think it would be a stalemate, but endurance wise I think Surfer may outlast Thor, (but were talking about days to weeks to possibly months here folks).
But in that time, I give it to Thor.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I'm not really asking, just acting like it to point it out(but I honestly wasn't trying to be a dick about it).In the scans you posted from Blood and Thunder, Thor WAS using his hammer in the fight, and that's my point. Thor can knock around Surfer with his fist(just like Hulk can), but to actually cause damage or put Surfer down, he always uses Mjolnir. But I have damn near all of both Thor and Surfer's appearances, so if your thinking of an instance that escapes me just let me know and I'll post it.
You most likely own the scans I'm speaking of. I was just speaking of the battles during Bllod and Thunder.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I wonder why people believe physical attacks cannot hurt Surfer.
It's not that the Surfer can't be hurt by physical attacks; it's that he's apparently more durable to physical attack than Thor. As I mentioned in a prior post, Surfer has consistently (AFAIK) endured punches and kicks by Hulk without even wincing (this not limited to the scans above), whereas Thor has been seriously hurt by Hulk.
Originally posted by dvampire
People are saying that Thanos is way above Thor, but they have never actually fought to determine that, so why is everyone assuming that he's above Thor? They never really fought against each other all out.Anyways, Thor wins this again, because he's protayed to be stronger than Surfer.
Originally posted by Mindship
It's not that the Surfer can't be hurt by physical attacks; it's that he's apparently more durable to physical attack than Thor. As I mentioned in a prior post, Surfer has consistently (AFAIK) endured punches and kicks by Hulk without even wincing (this not limited to the scans above), whereas Thor has been seriously hurt by Hulk.
That's because Surfer doesn't go into a physical fight with Hulk long enough to get hurt. Every time he fights Hulk, he shields himself from harm and doesn't really try to go h2h with Hulk. Thor is always fighting Hulk, going toe to toe with him, which gets Hulk ever more pissed off, making it tuffer to take him down.
Originally posted by Priest
accually thanos is leagues above a normal thor.
In a state of Warrior Maddness Thor/powergem was trading shots with Thanos.
Did they ever show Thanos and Thor fighting where their was a winner. Thor with the power gem was to much for Thanos, that's why he resorted to using one of his wepons. Thanos has never actually beaten Thor yet, I'm not going to assume that he's above Thor and vice versa.
Originally posted by dvampire
Did they ever show Thanos and Thor fighting where their was a winner. Thor with the power gem was to much for Thanos, that's why he resorted to using one of his wepons. Thanos has never actually beaten Thor yet, I'm not going to assume that he's above Thor and vice versa.
Originally posted by Priest
Accually they seemed pretty even, maybe with thor having a slight edge, because of his powerups in Blood and Thunder arc. without the power ups, Thanos would cream thor in hand to hand.
Didn't seem fare to me. Thor was always in control of that, Thanos could barely keep Thor off of him, that's why he fled to get his wepon. And again, even without the power gem, Thanos never attempted to fight mess with Thor. And I doubt it would be as easily as you say in Thanos beating Thor h2h, which is one of Thors' best fortes and he is an high trained warrior unlike Surfer and the rest of the heralds Thanos beats on.
It won't be easy.
Originally posted by dvampire
Didn't seem fare to me. Thor was always in control of that, Thanos could barely keep Thor off of him, that's why he fled to get his wepon. And again, even without the power gem, Thanos never attempted to fight mess with Thor. And I doubt it would be as easily as you say in Thanos beating Thor h2h, which is one of Thors' best fortes and he is an high trained warrior unlike Surfer and the rest of the heralds Thanos beats on.It won't be easy.
Originally posted by Priest
Thanos is a pretty damm good fighter, he trained Gammora...
they both had good shots, i remeber both made each other bleed.
Dont get me wrong, Thor is one of my favorite characters, but Thanos out classes him in hiting strength. (if that makes any sence)
I never said Thanos wasn't a good fighter. I just wanted to point out that Thor is a trained warrior, and is use to fighting people with just as much battle skills (like BRB and Herc).
Thor never droped blood when they fought in Boold and Thunder only Thanos. Again, In your opinion that's how you see it, but IMO, Thanos has never actually fought Thor in a real battle where there was a winner to determine who's above the other. So I'm not putting Thanos over Thor, and vice versa.
Originally posted by dvampire
People are saying that Thanos is way above Thor, but they have never actually fought to determine that, so why is everyone assuming that he's above Thor? They never really fought against each other all out.Anyways, Thor wins this again, because he's protayed to be stronger than Surfer.
Originally posted by juggernaut66666
Maybe because he one shoted Thor before he got his upgrades.....
And when was this? Was Thanos powered up? And was this the real Thor or Materson Thor? Oh and Thor one shoted Thanos also in the IG series.
You're not going to cry because I don't agree with some people that Thor or Thanos are above one another are you (because you're Thanos craze)?
Again though, I won't put either above the other until I actually see them in a real battle with a winner. My opinion isn't going to change.
Originally posted by dvampire
That's because Surfer doesn't go into a physical fight with Hulk long enough to get hurt. Every time he fights Hulk, he shields himself from harm and doesn't really try to go h2h with Hulk. Thor is always fighting Hulk, going toe to toe with him, which gets Hulk ever more pissed off, making it tuffer to take him down.
