Originally posted by soin2cal
Dont know about anyone else but this nearly makes me cry as its that sad. I didnt actually read the full story for this reason. But it was then when i actually realized how they killed the poor thing🙁
When you do get to California you will make the perfect blonde valley girl Californian of all time 😉
Originally posted by FeceMan
Despite your "reiterating" what they said, you have yet again managed to miss the fact that, for something to be tried as a war crime, it need not be genocide.
Quite true, and I have never stated anything to the contrary.
Originally posted by FeceMan
M'lad, there is a difference between causing the most casualties possible with a bomb and exterminating an entire group of people.Your application is erroneous.
Yes, yes, I'm a horrible person for condoning their use. Spare me.
The empty drum bangs the loudest.
It is the price we pay for tolerating trolls.
Yawn...you got nothing, yo. Back to the puppies...
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Quite true, and I have never stated anything to the contrary.
It turns out that the use of atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki wasn't genocide after all...dismissal/redirect! Dismissal/redirect!
Originally posted by FeceMan
You asserted that, because he said they would be tried as war criminals, they had committed genocide (or at least tried to).
Well, haha, no. I said that the people involved had admitted that if they had lost the war, they would have been tried for war crimes in relation to their bombing of Japan. Then, I referred to people like McNamara stating on record that their intentions were to kill as many Japanese civilians as possible with the bombs they dropped. Finally, I stated that an explicit interpretation of the term 'genocide' would fit perfectly as a description of their actions.
Genocide: the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group. (Taken from dictionary.com)
Were their actions deliberate? Yes.
Systematic? Yes.
Was wide-scale extermination their goal? Yes.
Were these actions focused on a particular nation? Yes.
See?
*crosses fingers*
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Genocide: the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group. (Taken from dictionary.com)
Systematic? Yes.
Was wide-scale extermination their goal? Yes.
Were these actions focused on a particular nation? Yes.
Originally posted by FeceMan
Kinda like the ones I quoted.
Really? Wow, how bizarre! It's also kinda like the one I first quoted, too. Bizarro!
Originally posted by FeceMan
I'd hardly consider "drop the bombs here" to be methodical. The Holocaust was methodical, as it involved slow, deliberate planning and order in execution and disposing of the bodies.No, it was not. The goal was, primarily, to end the war. This was to be achieved by killing as many civilians as possible, not by wiping out the Japanese people.
The only reason they were focused solely on Japan was because they were the last remaining enemy. It was not focused on Japan because its people are Japanese.
Again, you're failing to grasp what I've been stating in regard to my usage ("an explicit interpretation of the term"😉, and your attempts to refute my points are becoming more and more tenuous. The end result of this is that I'm finding this discussion more and more tedious.
Originally posted by Kinneary
Because obviously the puppy wouldn't have been tortured anywhere in Europe/Asia/Africa/Australia/South America since everyone there is perfectly sane and the only place with crazy people is America. Duh.
I just think that the media in the US cares more for those boring day-to-day storied.