Sage vs Captain America

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Sage vs Captain America

Sage is injected with the SSS and is on Kick. She gets a scimitar made of the same material as Captain America's shield.

Fight in the unactivated Danger Room.

Discuss.

Re: Sage vs Captain America

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Sage is injected with the SSS and is on Kick. She gets a scimitar made of the same material as Captain America's shield.

Fight in the unactivated Danger Room.

Discuss.

Cap

Re: Sage vs Captain America

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Sage is injected with the SSS and is on Kick. She gets a scimitar made of the same material as Captain America's shield.

Fight in the unactivated Danger Room.

Discuss.

Probably Sage she has other powers to start with and the SSS should put them close to equal footing physically.

Re: Re: Sage vs Captain America

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Probably Sage she has other powers to start with and the SSS should put them close to equal footing physically.

I took Cap for experience

Re: Re: Re: Sage vs Captain America

Originally posted by guy222
I took Cap for experience

Sage has a perfect memory so I figured she would get more out of each fight she's had.

Plus with her thought speed she might be able to mimic Cap until she learned his fighting style.

Re: Re: Re: Re: Sage vs Captain America

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Sage has a perfect memory so I figured she would get more out of each fight she's had.

Plus with her thought speed she might be able to mimic Cap until she learned his fighting style.

sounds fair

Re: Sage vs Captain America

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Sage is injected with the SSS and is on Kick. She gets a scimitar made of the same material as Captain America's shield.

Fight in the unactivated Danger Room.

Discuss.

Ok lets look at this. Sage is already a formidable MA, not one of the best in the world but still formidable. This probably implies in terms of pure h2h she is not as good as cap.

What makes her dangerous is that she has a mind like a computer which enables her to mimic a person's abilities and analyse an opponet.

Well considering that Cap has already beaten a computer called cache this also implies in terms of combat and strategy his mind is also faster than a computer. Cap has also learnt an alien martial art in a day. This could also implies when it comes to analysing terrestial martial artists his analysing skills would be mcuh greater.

It says in her profile that she is highly skilled with edged weapons but I dont think she would be as skilled as cap with his shield because cap has more experience.

Ok to summarise if you look at caps showings in terms of h2h combat and strategy its not illogical to say that he can match sage.

Giving Sage the SSS evens up things because she will have enhanced stats, but I think Cap could still win this because he has more experience with fighting than she does and also he has more experience with his weapon of choice.

Cap also has the advantage of multiple ranged attacks. Cap can also use his shield as a missle but can also use his shield to get his opponents into a position he wants.

Im giving it to Cap 6/10 because he has more experince (I think) and his shield is more versatile.

so what...this thread dies just liike thet...this is actually a good thread...eventhough the intentions seem spitey.

Originally posted by Alfheim
so what...this thread dies just liike thet...this is actually a good thread...eventhough the intentions seem spitey.

Let me put it this way if guy222 and SymmetricChaos are the first 4 responses then nobody cares.

Originally posted by Alfheim
...eventhough the intentions seem spitey.
🤨 I don't think she can match him ordinarily because he outskills her and outstats her so I narrowed the stats gap (SSS) and skills gap (Kick enhances her mutant ability i.e. better calculation of probable outcomes). It can still probably pretty much go either way though imo.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
🤨 I don't think she can match him ordinarily because he outskills her and outstats her so I narrowed the stats gap. It can still probably pretty much go either way though imo.

Well im giving him the win, because her mental skills are a bit like DD's radar sense. Eventhough she might have more knowledge and forethought in the battels shes still not going to be as fast and as strong as Cap even with the SSS because Cap trains harder than she probably does.

Part of his abilities are not just SSS but his constant training.....so basically she does not have the physical prowess to back up whats in he head....hope that makes sense. 🙁

This fight could easily go 5/10 for both, considering Cap's skill and Sage's mutant ability.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
This fight could easily go 5/10 for both, considering Cap's skill and Sage's mutant ability.

I don't know much about Sage but with a eidectic memory couldn't she learn Cap's fighting style after just one fight and then use that agianst him in the other ones?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I don't know much about Sage but with a eidectic memory couldn't she learn Cap's fighting style after just one fight and then use that agianst him in the other ones?

Yes but she needs to have the physical prowess to bak up her knowledge. Cap will still be faster and stronger because he has been training longer than she has and trains more often.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yes but she needs to have the physical prowess to bak up her knowledge. Cap will still be faster and stronger because he has been training longer than she has and trains more often.

SSS should narrow that gap a little so I'd give it to her for a majority. (BTW what is Kick?)

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
SSS should narrow that gap a little so I'd give it to her for a majority. (BTW what is Kick?)

Yeah.... I know but like I said...shes still going to be slower and less strong. Its like DD radar sense..sure he knows that something is going to happen but that doesnt always mean he will be able to dodge attacks because his reflexes are at a certain level. If DD fights an opponent who is much faster than him all he will know is that hes going to get his *** kicked.

Ok this situation isnt to that extreme but I suspect even if sage has sss Cap will still be significantly faster.

I dunno I think xmarks was joking...kick is an enrgy drink.

Originally posted by Alfheim

I dunno I think xmarks was joking...kick is an enrgy drink.

According to Wiki in Marvel Kick is a drug that amps mutant powers.

I don't see her crushing Cap but I think she would take a few good wins especially later in the matches.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yes but she needs to have the physical prowess to bak up her knowledge. Cap will still be faster and stronger because he has been training longer than she has and trains more often.

Uh...the SSS equalizes their physical stats. She's as strong/fast/agile/etc. as Cap. Plus the fact that she has her mutant powers amped from Kick...

Well, this is why I said 5/10. But I might just lean a bit towards Sage on this one.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Uh...the SSS equalizes their physical stats. She's as strong/fast/agile/etc. as Cap. Plus the fact that she has her mutant powers amped from Kick...

Im not sure about that, because not all of Caps powers come from the SSS. If you read what it says in caps comics its not just the SSS that gives him his stamina and speed its his training. Therefore if he didnt train his stats would be lower. To paraphrase "Caps SSS gives him his abilities and his constant training to keep him in peak conditon." Im sure I read this at herochat in the Captain respect forum.

Your serously going to take that kick statement seriously?

Well...this thread is kinda slow, so lets start a flame war:

Well, the Super Soldier Serum enhances you to peak human.

However, everyone knows that peak MALE is superior to peak FEMALE. Therefore, Cap would still have the edge on Sage in the physicality department.

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